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CurseTheSky

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If you have scope how hard is it to hit the target?

Hmm, let's take a few things into consideration:

Barrel sway due to breathing, nearby movements, etc.
Wind
Elevation
Target velocity
Bullet drop

And many, many more.

Being able to shoot a scoped rifle isn't simply putting your crosshairs over the target and pulling the trigger. That's like saying all of you have to do to be a MLB pitcher is throw the ball over home plate.
 

Kelvrick

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Feb 14, 2001
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If you have scope how hard is it to hit the target?

How far away are you? I'm an amateur at best, and I'll list what you have to compensate for off the top of my head assuming a correctly calibrated rifle, scope and rounds.

Distance - Do you even know how far away the target is?
Bullet trajectory - How far up or down will the bullet rise/fall between the end of your barrel and the target depending on your zero (the range in which you've calibrated your rifle/scope)
Wind - How fast is it going and in which direction? How many different directions and speeds is it going between you and the target?
Target movement - Which direction and how quickly the target may be moving. How much to compensate for this movement for the time it takes for your bullet to reach the target.
Temperature - Warmer air rising from the ground will effect your bullet
Atmospheric pressure - Yes, the pressure effects your bullet
Mirage - Looking through your scope gets blurrier as distance increases and you have to turn down the power. At sufficient distances, the little dot in your scope could cover the target and more.
Shooter variables - Can you properly adjust your scope/point of aim for the above variables. Do you have the ability to pull the trigger without affecting the shot. If you miss, can you compensate and take the second shot the same way?

Using my long range rig, I can hit 1 inch targets at 100 yards all day long. 1 foot plates on up to 400 yards all day long, given about half a minute between shots.

Give me a minute and I can transition from 0 on up to 400 yards. 400-700, I'll probably need a few minutes. 800-1000, I'll probably miss 2 shots before getting one on a still b-27 target (23x35). Then I'll miss every other round depending on how consistent the wind is. Most of my experience lies under 500 and I've only gone out to 1000.
 
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BurnItDwn

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Don't snipers have to like ... sit there and hide without moving for like 3 days in a row, then, they take their shot, then they have to go find a new hidey hole ... then the process repeats ....

I don't have the patience to sit still for 5 minutes, let alone for days at a time.
 

SKORPI0

Lifer
Jan 18, 2000
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Even kittens can be one. :p

000awqap
 

Childs

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To be a sniper all you really need to do is hide somewhere and shoot at people that don't expect it. DC Sniper, clock tower sniper, Bosnian snipers, etc. The difference with a trained sniper is the effectiveness. Shooting at civilians is one thing, but against military personal you need training to get into position, actually hit your target in varied wind conditions and distance, then get away. Supposedly military sniper training is one of the more difficult things a soldier can do.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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he's trolling us or has never shot a weapon before.

its not like in video games.
 

Lithium381

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hah, it's VERY difficult to do what they do, its not just about sharpshooting, it's field-craft as well, keen observation skills, working as a team witih your spotter, etc
 

BabaBooey

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Jan 21, 2001
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Anyone can be a brain surgeon too but .....:hmm:


It is a skilled art like any other and not everyone can do it,I love doing it but no longer have my rifle so...:\
 

erikistired

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Yes, anyone can be a sniper. Now try to get someone to pay you to be a sniper. Same goes for a lot of things. I can be a pitcher but no one is going to pay me to play.

you're just not going after the right "catchers".
 

TheNinja

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Jan 22, 2003
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He's probably referring to an auction sniper. In which case, yes, pretty much anyone can be a sniper at an auction.
 

AMCRambler

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Jan 23, 2001
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Hehe. He thinks its point and shoot.

Go target shooting and try and hit a man sized target 300 yards out (a short shot for a sniper by the way). Then come back and tell us how you were wrong.
 

Lemon law

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Although I totally agree with Lithium that to be a US military sniper takes extensive training and skill sets few people have, the question in my mind is why anyone would aspire to become a sniper. As one of those required skill sets is a lack of morality
and a playing God Mindset.

Just because some idiot with more stripes than you have tells you or me that cold blooded murder is OK, does make it so in the eyes of "God."
 

Childs

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Although I totally agree with Lithium that to be a US military sniper takes extensive training and skill sets few people have, the question in my mind is why anyone would aspire to become a sniper. As one of those required skill sets is a lack of morality
and a playing God Mindset.

Well they are soldiers. When you become one you know you might have to kill people. I dont recall any reports of snipers raping women or killing fleeing civilians. Morality doesnt have anything to do with it IMO, you serve your country the best way you can if you join the military.

But if you are talking about wanting to be one just so you can shoot people from bushes, then yeah, something might be wrong with you. In general, I would think anyone joining the military so they can kill people is not a good thing. I guess its better than having them roaming free in our society.