psychological addictions are easily broken by people of strong character, such as yourself. I assure you studies have shown that tolerance is built, of course everything doesn?t work the same for all. so please don't take my stamens to say "all" or "everyone". If you where self-policing and didn't go about going through a qp in a week, then that social structure could have helped as well.
Red Dawn
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Well people of weak character are going to have problems with much worse things than pot such as those who have addicitve personalities. If it isn't pot then it is booze or sex or gambling or a multitude of other things.
As for the build up for tolerance of pot, all I know is from personal experience (usually the best) and I didn't see it effect me or any of my friends that way.
Apparently, pot is a lot more potent than it used to be:
The escalating prevalence of higher potency marijuana such as sinsemilla appears to have resulted in an increase in average potency levels. The percentage of marijuana samples testing at 9 percent or higher THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol) increased more than 600 percent from 1994 (104 of 3,281 samples) to 2002 (545 of 2,378 samples), according to data from the Potency Monitoring Project. The average potency of tested marijuana and sinsemilla during that period also increased. Average THC levels for both types rose approximately 50 percent--from 3.50 to 5.11 percent THC for marijuana and from 7.49 to 11.43 percent THC for sinsemilla.
NDIC Comment: Marijuana potency has increased; however, even with the advances in indoor cultivation techniques and marijuana production methods used throughout the United States and Canada (where much of the higher potency marijuana is produced), THC levels remain, typically, under 15 percent. Growers can and do produce marijuana with potency levels over 20 percent; however, not all growers have the capability or the determination either to produce top quality marijuana or to achieve the highest potential yield from their crops. Increasingly, organized crime groups in Canada and, to a lesser extent, the United States are becoming more involved in large-scale marijuana cultivation and are primarily interested in profits. It is unlikely that they will invest the care required to mass-produce top quality marijuana, particularly in the drying, manicuring, and curing stages of production. This trend should help to stabilize or further slow the rise in average potency levels.
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The escalating prevalence of higher potency marijuana such as sinsemilla appears to have resulted in an increase in average potency levels. The percentage of marijuana samples testing at 9 percent or higher THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol) increased more than 600 percent from 1994 (104 of 3,281 samples) to 2002 (545 of 2,378 samples), according to data from the Potency Monitoring Project. The average potency of tested marijuana and sinsemilla during that period also increased. Average THC levels for both types rose approximately 50 percent--from 3.50 to 5.11 percent THC for marijuana and from 7.49 to 11.43 percent THC for sinsemilla.
NDIC Comment: Marijuana potency has increased; however, even with the advances in indoor cultivation techniques and marijuana production methods used throughout the United States and Canada (where much of the higher potency marijuana is produced), THC levels remain, typically, under 15 percent. Growers can and do produce marijuana with potency levels over 20 percent; however, not all growers have the capability or the determination either to produce top quality marijuana or to achieve the highest potential yield from their crops. Increasingly, organized crime groups in Canada and, to a lesser extent, the United States are becoming more involved in large-scale marijuana cultivation and are primarily interested in profits. It is unlikely that they will invest the care required to mass-produce top quality marijuana, particularly in the drying, manicuring, and curing stages of production. This trend should help to stabilize or further slow the rise in average potency levels.
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Sure, having information to make informed decisions is fine. I don't think negative studies about pot (or anything else) should be repressed, people have a right to the truth. What they choose to do with that information is their own deal.
bamacre
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Whether or not marijuana is harmful, prohibition isn't working.
In many places in the US, it is easier for a child to obtain marijuana than alcohol. No amount of money will ever prevent marijuana from being bought and sold within the United States. How much have spent already on the war on drugs? What results have we seen from this massive amount of money and energy?
The biggest problem discussing marijuana with opponents is their ignorance of just how many people actually consume it.
In many places in the US, it is easier for a child to obtain marijuana than alcohol. No amount of money will ever prevent marijuana from being bought and sold within the United States. How much have spent already on the war on drugs? What results have we seen from this massive amount of money and energy?
The biggest problem discussing marijuana with opponents is their ignorance of just how many people actually consume it.
That is a good point. At my high school, a lot of people smoked pot because it WAS easier to get than booze. The war on drugs really doesn't seem to be working, and we won't be able to win it unless people stop wanting to get high. I don't see that happening...so...
Aside from the debate on the legality, is getting high worth nearly doubling your risk of having mental illness?
Most alcoholics drink too much. Are you an abolitionist, too?
Just as the vast majority of drinkers are not alcoholics, so are the vast majority of pot users not addicts. My Bible says Christ drank wine, your argument is hypocritical.
There are well documented health benefits to moderate (1 to 2 glasses/day) consumption of alcohol.
However, if you don't drink, it's not recommended that you start because of the risk of alcohol abuse.
However, if you don't drink, it's not recommended that you start because of the risk of alcohol abuse.
Even the recent Supreme Court ruling acknowledged that there is substantial evidence htat there are well documented benefits to the medical use of marijuana. What's your point? :roll:
Rip -- The more you post, the dumber you look. A joint may actually do you some good.
Originally posted by: Harvey
Even the recent Supreme Court ruling acknowledged that there is substantial evidence htat there are well documented benefits to the medical use of marijuana. What's your point? :roll:
Rip -- The more you post, the dumber you look. A joint may actually do you some good.
Not according to the DEA:
Q. Does marijuana have any medical value?
Any determination of a drug's valid medical use must be based on the best available science undertaken by medical professionals. The Institute of Medicine conducted a comprehensive study in 1999 to assess the potential health benefits of marijuana and its constituent cannabinoids. The study concluded that smoking marijuana is not recommended for the treatment of any disease condition. In addition, there are more effective medications currently available. For those reasons, the Institute of Medicine concluded that there is little future in smoked marijuana as a medically approved medication.8
Advocates have promoted the use of marijuana to treat medical conditions such as glaucoma. However, this is a good example of more effective medicines already available. According to the Institute of Medicine, there are six classes of drugs and multiple surgical techniques that are available to treat glaucoma that effectively slow the progression of this disease by reducing high intraocular pressure.
In other studies, smoked marijuana has been shown to cause a variety of health problems, including cancer, respiratory problems, increased heart rate, loss of motor skills, and increased heart rate. Furthermore, marijuana can affect the immune system by impairing the ability of T-cells to fight off infections, demonstrating that marijuana can do more harm than good in people with already compromised immune systems.9
In addition, in a recent study by the Mayo Clinic, THC was shown to be less effective than standard treatments in helping cancer patients regain lost appetites.10
The American Medical Association recommends that marijuana remain a Schedule I controlled substance.
The DEA supports research into the safety and efficacy of THC (the major psychoactive component of marijuana), and such studies are ongoing, supported by grants from the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
As a result of such research, a synthetic THC drug, Marinol, has been available to the public since 1985. The Food and Drug Administration has determined that Marinol is safe, effective, and has therapeutic benefits for use as a treatment for nausea and vomiting associated with cancer chemotherapy, and as a treatment of weight loss in patients with AIDS. However, it does not produce the harmful health effects associated with smoking marijuana.
Furthermore, the DEA recently approved the University of California San Diego to undertake rigorous scientific studies to assess the safety and efficacy of cannabis compounds for treating certain debilitating medical conditions.
It's also important to realize that the campaign to allow marijuana to be used as medicine is a tactical maneuver in an overall strategy to completely legalize all drugs. Pro-legalization groups have transformed the debate from decriminalizing drug use to one of compassion and care for people with serious diseases. The New York Times interviewed Ethan Nadelman, Director of the Lindesmith Center, in January 2000. Responding to criticism from former Drug Czar Barry McCaffrey that the medical marijuana issue is a stalking-horse for drug legalization, Mr. Nadelman did not contradict General McCaffrey. "Will it help lead toward marijuana legaization?" Mr. Nadelman said: "I hope so."
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Drakkon
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i love how potheads and casual users alike will at the same time defend the use of marijuana being a "harmless activity" like its our first ammedment right...
I've known both, was a casual user a long time ago, and all i can say is I've never known it to make people smarter. I agree with the people treat it like a religion, even the casual types as a "sunday church-goer", cause the people that use pot wether it be every day, once a week, or once a month, seem to think defending its use by saying its like alchohol, or the govt is warping the fact, or saying its easy to quit, or it doesn't lead to harder drugs, or it has medical benefits...frankly i can't see how that isn't mental illness cause if you have smoked pot you probobly know at least one person who also has that is an alchoholic, does do harder drugs, or hasn't yet quit even though its probobly ruining their lives...
I've known both, was a casual user a long time ago, and all i can say is I've never known it to make people smarter. I agree with the people treat it like a religion, even the casual types as a "sunday church-goer", cause the people that use pot wether it be every day, once a week, or once a month, seem to think defending its use by saying its like alchohol, or the govt is warping the fact, or saying its easy to quit, or it doesn't lead to harder drugs, or it has medical benefits...frankly i can't see how that isn't mental illness cause if you have smoked pot you probobly know at least one person who also has that is an alchoholic, does do harder drugs, or hasn't yet quit even though its probobly ruining their lives...
I don't understand how anyone can seriously believe that taking 3-4 hits from a bong once a month will make them crazy.
In fact, people who believe this are probably crazy themselves.
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My government has already lied to me enough to know I can't trust a word they say without a lot of independent corroboration.
Cerb
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I believe this is the first time one of your posts has ever actually caused me to burst into laughter.Originally posted by: Riprorin
Not according to the DEAOriginally posted by: Harvey
Even the recent Supreme Court ruling acknowledged that there is substantial evidence htat there are well documented benefits to the medical use of marijuana. What's your point? :roll:
Rip -- The more you post, the dumber you look. A joint may actually do you some good.
(...)
That the DEA is the one classifying drugs is moronic. In fact, it is exactly what the original design of our government was meant to keep from happening. Even though they also have political agendas, it should be the FDA's job to classify how dangerous a drug is, and therefore how controlled it should be.
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