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Dadofamunky

Dadofamunky

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Originally posted by: someone16
Take a look at the Lian Li PC-A05. Real small case but with the ability to put in ATX boards and have decent cooling. Alot of the cube SFF cases are smaller in height but way wider so it kinda cancels out.
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If I upgrade to a quad that's my next case.

Originally posted by: Massive Overkill
This is the board you want to hold out for:

http://www.xfastest.com/viewth...208&extra=&page=1#zoom

Oh yeah, IMO if it has more volume than a mini tower, I don't care if it holds a mATX board, it's not really a mATX rig.

Cases like the NXT Rogue, Lian Li, Q-Micra..........those cases are freakin huge. I don't see
why they don't put standoffs for ATX and just call it a small ATX case.

I have to lug my Micro Fly across the country and it's heavy enough as it is. There's no way in hell I would lug a Rogue around.
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...if they ever SELL that board in this country. That thing is freakin' AWESOME!
 
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Zap

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Originally posted by: Dadofamunky
Originally posted by: Massive Overkill
This is the board you want to hold out for:

http://www.xfastest.com/viewth...208&extra=&page=1#zoom
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...if they ever SELL that board in this country. That thing is freakin' AWESOME!
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It should be available really soon. Distributors are already getting them (I think ASI has them as of Friday). Pricing is lower than I thought it would be so it shouldn't be much more than the DFI mATX x58 board. Originally I thought that because it was a ROG board it would be $350-400, but I'm expecting it closer to $300.
 
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IlllI

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yeah i guess for $250+ the cost of a heatsink would be approaching shuttle in terms of price. for some reason that 120mm front fan seems appealing, which is something shuttle never tried



 
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Zap

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Originally posted by: IlllI
yeah i guess for $250+ the cost of a heatsink would be approaching shuttle in terms of price. for some reason that 120mm front fan seems appealing, which is something shuttle never tried
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Yeah, that plus the dual slot video card support. Shuttle tends to put their video card slot at the outer edge of the motherboard, thus only allowing single slot cards to be used. However, in this case IMO Shuttle has some very cost-competitive solutions.

Shuttle
All these case/mobo barebones are same or cheaper than the Silverstone/Zotac combo and have PCIe x16 and includes the CPU cooler:
SN68SG2 black GeForce 7025 chipset for AM2 (no Phenom support?) $170
SG31G2S silver G31 chipset up to quad core socket 775 $195
SG31G2 black G31 chipset up to quad core socket 775 $195
SG33G5B black G33 chipset socket 775 up to quad core $230
SP35P2V2 black P35 chipset socket 775 up to quad core $240
SG33G5 Pro black G33 chipset socket 775 up to quad core $255

Shuttle also has some more expensive units with P45, x38 and even x48 chipset boards. About the only thing they don't have (yet) are x58 for Core i7.

Oh yeah, and they have the D10 Media Center setup which seems pretty cool. It has an integrated 7" widescreen touch panel on the front. I really wish there was some good review of it somewhere that shows how the screen interfaces with the system. $410 is kind of pricey though, and it does not have PCIe x16.
 
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IlllI

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yeah.. i just dont feel like trying to mod another shuttle again though. that sugo was almost exactly what i wanted.. well other than the psu being right above where the heatsink would be :p
i might just get a lian li a05 though. its not as small obviously, but gives more flexibility in what parts i can use

 
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syzygy

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does anyone know if that that sugo g305 can fit a single slot GPU and a sound card ?
 
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squirrelman

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The Zotac board and the SG05 look like the exact solution I was looking for, now the real question is can it's power supply handle a GTS 250? It has a rating on 22amps combined on the +12V rail. On EVGA for instance it says the card wants a 450watt power supply with 24amps. Anyone have any experience with using a lower powered power supply in similar situations?
 
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abaez

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Right now I have a P180 and looking to get a smaller case. I really only have my 8800GTS, a BR burner, and one SATA HD. I do no overclocking (little of vidcard only), so my case is obviously overkill.

The SUGO case looks great, but I cannot fit my BR burner in it so no go. What would be the smallest case I could get that would fit one HD, one BR burner and an 8800GTS and ATX mobo?

Or would it be worth it to buy an m-ATX mobo and just get an MATX case that would fit the 8800GTS?

I do have an 800watt PSU that I would like to keep - do MATX cases fit regular size PSU?
 
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Zap

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Originally posted by: syzygy
does anyone know if that that sugo g305 can fit a single slot GPU and a sound card ?
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The case physically has two slots, but mini ITX boards only have one slot. You might be able to find some board with two slots like the Shuttle boards, an undersized Flex ATX or a DTX form factor board, but good luck on finding any besides in a Shuttle box.

Originally posted by: squirrelman
The Zotac board and the SG05 look like the exact solution I was looking for, now the real question is can it's power supply handle a GTS 250? It has a rating on 22amps combined on the +12V rail.
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I believe it can. I have that FSP 300W PSU (older version with zero PCIe plugs) and I ran a 7900 GTO and a super-overclocked socket 939 San Diego core chip at 3.12GHz on it for a while (before I got an Enermax unit).

Just make sure you get a GTS 250 with the "new" PCB design. These are characterized by a shorter 9" PCB and a single PCIe power plug.

The PSU is standard SFX sized, so you can get higher wattage units if you have to. Currently the highest output SFX unit is a 350W unit made by Seasonic with a combined 26A +12v. Strangely it does not come with any PCIe plugs, but it has enough power. Heck, I've run a GTX 260 on one, using two adapters.
 
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squirrelman

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Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: syzygy
does anyone know if that that sugo g305 can fit a single slot GPU and a sound card ?
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The case physically has two slots, but mini ITX boards only have one slot. You might be able to find some board with two slots like the Shuttle boards, an undersized Flex ATX or a DTX form factor board, but good luck on finding any besides in a Shuttle box.

Originally posted by: squirrelman
The Zotac board and the SG05 look like the exact solution I was looking for, now the real question is can it's power supply handle a GTS 250? It has a rating on 22amps combined on the +12V rail.
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I believe it can. I have that FSP 300W PSU (older version with zero PCIe plugs) and I ran a 7900 GTO and a super-overclocked socket 939 San Diego core chip at 3.12GHz on it for a while (before I got an Enermax unit).

Just make sure you get a GTS 250 with the "new" PCB design. These are characterized by a shorter 9" PCB and a single PCIe power plug.

The PSU is standard SFX sized, so you can get higher wattage units if you have to. Currently the highest output SFX unit is a 350W unit made by Seasonic with a combined 26A +12v. Strangely it does not come with any PCIe plugs, but it has enough power. Heck, I've run a GTX 260 on one, using two adapters.
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Perfect that is exactly what I hoped to hear, now if they only made a GTX 260 that actually fit in there!
 
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Zap

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Originally posted by: squirrelman
now if they only made a GTX 260 that actually fit in there!
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You and me both! My HTPC (Antec NSK2480 case) can only take up to 9" cards.
 
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