Small Cars Crash Test Results - not too good

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Who doesn't get side airbags on their new cars?

I don't have ANY airbags in most of my cars and most also don't have collapsible steering columns but I don't feel unsafe at all. The driver is the biggest safety item in a car.

 

HannibalX

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Who doesn't get side airbags on their new cars?

I don't have ANY airbags in most of my cars and most also don't have collapsible steering columns but I don't feel unsafe at all. The driver is the biggest safety item in a car.

I agree to a certain degree. I have been in a couple accidents where I was the one who got slammed by a ignoranus.
 

Jeff7

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Alright, big cars may be safer. Once everyone owns a huge car, then the large cars will be too small to be safe. Then once everyone owns a truck, the huge cars will be too small to be safe. APC's for everyone?
 

Linux23

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Who doesn't get side airbags on their new cars?

I don't have ANY airbags in most of my cars and most also don't have collapsible steering columns but I don't feel unsafe at all. The driver is the biggest safety item in a car.

not when there are 200 million morons sharing the road with you.
 

StageLeft

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Anybody should realize that if you're in a car that weighs 2600 lbs and hit by one that weighs 4500 lbs, the odds are really not in your favour.
 

OS

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Anybody should realize that if you're in a car that weighs 2600 lbs and hit by one that weighs 4500 lbs, the odds are really not in your favour.

huh, ur still alive? wb?
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: Linux23
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Who doesn't get side airbags on their new cars?

I don't have ANY airbags in most of my cars and most also don't have collapsible steering columns but I don't feel unsafe at all. The driver is the biggest safety item in a car.

not when there are 200 million morons sharing the road with you.

Want to make a bet? I pay very close attention to driving. I avoid accidents on almost a daily basis. The secret is to never get complacent and to always know where all the cars around you are and what they are doing. That is why constant scanning of your mirrors and surroundings is extremely important. Too bad this type of driving has been replaced with more importance being put on that cell phone call and relying on a wing and a prayer to see you through.
 

Iron Woode

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I am surprised they didn't test those god awful Smart cars.

If I hit one with my Crown Vic while doing anything over 30 mph, no one in that car will survive.

 

Captante

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A lot also depends on where you drive ... on a jammed highway with other vehicles 4 to 10 feet on every side of you cruising along at 60+ mph, all it takes is one person screwing up & theres not much even the best driver can do to avoid getting sucked in... thats where having a safer car helps.
 

Whisper

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Linux23
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Who doesn't get side airbags on their new cars?

I don't have ANY airbags in most of my cars and most also don't have collapsible steering columns but I don't feel unsafe at all. The driver is the biggest safety item in a car.

not when there are 200 million morons sharing the road with you.

Want to make a bet? I pay very close attention to driving. I avoid accidents on almost a daily basis. The secret is to never get complacent and to always know where all the cars around you are and what they are doing. That is why constant scanning of your mirrors and surroundings is extremely important. Too bad this type of driving has been replaced with more importance being put on that cell phone call and relying on a wing and a prayer to see you through.

This is all very true, but there are just some situations over which you have no control. If you're at a red light behind another vehicle, and promptly get plowed into by someone who, for whatever reason, didn't notice everyone stopped in front of him, you're pretty much screwed.

Which is why of all places, I'm absolutely the MOST terrified of highway off-ramps when I'm on my motorcycle. Especially at night.

Same could be said of someone ramming into you as you're passing through an intersection with a green light.
 

herbiehancock

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Originally posted by: Whisper

This is all very true, but there are just some situations over which you have no control. If you're at a red light behind another vehicle, and promptly get plowed into by someone who, for whatever reason, didn't notice everyone stopped in front of him, you're pretty much screwed.

Which is why of all places, I'm absolutely the MOST terrified of highway off-ramps when I'm on my motorcycle. Especially at night.

Same could be said of someone ramming into you as you're passing through an intersection with a green light.


Been there, done that with the red light situation. Stopped at a red light, a few seconds later as I leaned forward to adjust my radio volume, I got plowed into by an unattentive driver from the rear. Never saw the two lines of cars that were stopped for the dual red lights shining above us. Fortunately, I was far enough back from the driver in front of me that I didn't impact him and my brakes were in good shape.

I had a 1990 Chevy Blazer at the time, about a year old. He hit me with a way old Chevy LUV and peeled his hood and fenders back halfway to his windshield. My Class 3 hitch took a major part of the impact. Did over $3K damage to my truck, fixed by his ins. co. His truck, a commercially-owned truck used by a landscapign business, was pretty much wasted.

While the best defense is scanning and planning your escape routes constantly, it cannot make up for some situations where gross stupidity and such reign.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Linux23
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Who doesn't get side airbags on their new cars?

I don't have ANY airbags in most of my cars and most also don't have collapsible steering columns but I don't feel unsafe at all. The driver is the biggest safety item in a car.

not when there are 200 million morons sharing the road with you.

Want to make a bet? I pay very close attention to driving. I avoid accidents on almost a daily basis. The secret is to never get complacent and to always know where all the cars around you are and what they are doing. That is why constant scanning of your mirrors and surroundings is extremely important. Too bad this type of driving has been replaced with more importance being put on that cell phone call and relying on a wing and a prayer to see you through.
That sounds overconfident ;)

While avoiding the issue of an accident altogether is great and commendable, not having a backup plan of some sort can be foolish. That's like trying to start a business and pouring in tons of effort and planning into making sure it can work without ever thinking about an exit plan to recoup any of the damages if possible.

I think for most people, you can't expect that, and so higher standards of car safety are necessary. While we may not want to agree, that's life.
 

Lonyo

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Does anyone have stats for accidents, car vs car against car vs inanimate object?
 

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Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Who doesn't get side airbags on their new cars?

I don't even think it was an option when I bought my Civic (in 03)
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Whisper
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Linux23
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Who doesn't get side airbags on their new cars?

I don't have ANY airbags in most of my cars and most also don't have collapsible steering columns but I don't feel unsafe at all. The driver is the biggest safety item in a car.

not when there are 200 million morons sharing the road with you.

Want to make a bet? I pay very close attention to driving. I avoid accidents on almost a daily basis. The secret is to never get complacent and to always know where all the cars around you are and what they are doing. That is why constant scanning of your mirrors and surroundings is extremely important. Too bad this type of driving has been replaced with more importance being put on that cell phone call and relying on a wing and a prayer to see you through.

This is all very true, but there are just some situations over which you have no control. If you're at a red light behind another vehicle, and promptly get plowed into by someone who, for whatever reason, didn't notice everyone stopped in front of him, you're pretty much screwed.

Which is why of all places, I'm absolutely the MOST terrified of highway off-ramps when I'm on my motorcycle. Especially at night.

Same could be said of someone ramming into you as you're passing through an intersection with a green light.

That type of accident is not likely to result in serious injuries, let alone death.
 

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Lifer
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Interesting typo:
Honda Motor Co.'s Fit subcompact was rated "good" in the 40-mpg front and 31-mph side crashes, but inadequate seats and head restraints earned it a "poor," the institute's worst score, in protecting occupants from injury in a 20-mph rear-end collision.