Slowly and Gradually Building New PC.

[Ray_Rogers2019]

Your current motherboard is socket AM3, AM3+ is what bulldozer will be, there will be NO NEW CPU's released for your motherboard, NONE!!!! That is why AM3 is a "dead" socket. Not to mention the current 1155 motherboard from intel kicks AMD's ass quite handily (for not much more) And sorry to be the one to tell you mate, but more cores does NOT mean more power and better performance. Step back and stop making excuses, G.Skill makes some of the best damn RAM on the market, LG is a reliable company, and no one is suggesting "Ricer crap".

SSD's are not over priced, they are not making a HUGE profit off of them (they do need to make SOME money though) If you haven't used one don't say you don't need one. You only really need a 60-120GB to load the OS and the main applications you use.

Also the IGP (integrated graphics processor) on the Sandy bridge CPU's is the most advanced and best IGP to date and is about equal to mid-range discreet graphics cards. You say you are no "fanboi" well then why no Intel? It is the ONLY option (besides waiting for BD) that makes sense.

Sorry but bad occurence with an LG product in the past. Same for Panasonic for another item means I won't be buying their products anymore. Isn't Sandy Bridge still high in price? What about Core Unlocker for the 890GX? AMD is more affordable to me compared to Intel.
For SSD I'd still need to do more research about it and it's a part I'd know nothing to do with. Would it essentially be the C: drive and the HDD be secondary? HDD would have the games I figure amongst other programs whilst the SSD as already mentioned have Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit amongst other programs. Also read the SSDs can't have the data changed too much on it so I figure it'll just read from there then save to the HDD.

Dude really? How is "the LG is cheaper" (true statement) a snide remark? You need to get off your high horse and listen to reason.

EDIT: I see everyone else in this thread has taken you to school while I was away. Now it's up to you whether or not you will listen.

EDIT2: Here's a great quote from another thread that sums up my thoughts exactly.

I meant nobody made a snide remark I'm purchasing a Blu-ray disc burner, regardless of company which is a good thing. Yeah I plan on using this rig to watch Region B only titles imported from Europe and the UK due to AnyDVD HD. Yup I already use MPC Home Cinema so I have that settled. Could I just buy the 60GB SSD and install the multitude of programs on it excluding games? Only excluding games because I tend to mod some of them.
One last thing is I have the HD DVD add-on drive for the XBOX 360 and planning to convert titles on the format to Blu-ray disc. Also converting HD broadcasts of films to Blu-ray format, just the ones not already released so I could just have interims. ZERO film grain removal what-so-ever and figure faster but quality encoding too at great bit-rates.
Yes I am a film fan and import quite alot and also a video game fanatic. Should I post a thread in the PC Gaming section as to what titles I already own and the titles I'm planning to buy in the future? More of a physical retail ownership person out of habit but doesn't matter for older games if available through digital distribution which has built in support for XP/Vista/7.
Glad people mentioned the bit about the 2GB 6950 being able to convert to 6970. Not really planning on CrossFiring more due to the games I own which will be posted in the PC Gaming section. Also using many mods which up the textures/meshes from default to 4096x4096 and wondering what sort of framerates I'll be getting on them. Only MMO I play is The Lord of the Rings Online and will be reinstalling after putting the final piece in the puzzle but before the 6950.
Hope this helps!

ONE LAST THING! I should've mentioned I only plan on overclocking at first via very small increments then deciding if I want to push it. That's why 750W PSU including cautionary reasons. Slow upgrader and I've been meaning to build a new PC for the last three years.
So, will my new build greatly exceed the capabilities of my current pre-built P.O.S. then?

EDIT: Heatsink and fan for CPU or use the one in the box? More 120mm fans, ZERO Blue LED ricer, for the case or wait and see? Good thing I read the manuals and have a few guides bookmarked on my current shite PC.

 

[mnewsham]

The i5-2500k (which is still faster) is about 220 only 20 bucks more, the motherboard is about the same price, 120-150

 

[mvbighead]

The i5-2500k (which is still faster) is about 220 only 20 bucks more, the motherboard is about the same price, 120-150

He already has the board... stop beating a dead horse.

 

[mvbighead]

Sorry but bad occurence with an LG product in the past. Same for Panasonic for another item means I won't be buying their products anymore. Isn't Sandy Bridge still high in price? What about Core Unlocker for the 890GX? AMD is more affordable to me compared to Intel.
For SSD I'd still need to do more research about it and it's a part I'd know nothing to do with. Would it essentially be the C: drive and the HDD be secondary? HDD would have the games I figure amongst other programs whilst the SSD as already mentioned have Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit amongst other programs. Also read the SSDs can't have the data changed too much on it so I figure it'll just read from there then save to the HDD.

I meant nobody made a snide remark I'm purchasing a Blu-ray disc burner, regardless of company which is a good thing. Yeah I plan on using this rig to watch Region B only titles imported from Europe and the UK due to AnyDVD HD. Yup I already use MPC Home Cinema so I have that settled. Could I just buy the 60GB SSD and install the multitude of programs on it excluding games? Only excluding games because I tend to mod some of them.
One last thing is I have the HD DVD add-on drive for the XBOX 360 and planning to convert titles on the format to Blu-ray disc. Also converting HD broadcasts of films to Blu-ray format, just the ones not already released so I could just have interims. ZERO film grain removal what-so-ever and figure faster but quality encoding too at great bit-rates.
Yes I am a film fan and import quite alot and also a video game fanatic. Should I post a thread in the PC Gaming section as to what titles I already own and the titles I'm planning to buy in the future? More of a physical retail ownership person out of habit but doesn't matter for older games if available through digital distribution which has built in support for XP/Vista/7.
Glad people mentioned the bit about the 2GB 6950 being able to convert to 6970. Not really planning on CrossFiring more due to the games I own which will be posted in the PC Gaming section. Also using many mods which up the textures/meshes from default to 4096x4096 and wondering what sort of framerates I'll be getting on them. Only MMO I play is The Lord of the Rings Online and will be reinstalling after putting the final piece in the puzzle but before the 6950.
Hope this helps!

ONE LAST THING! I should've mentioned I only plan on overclocking at first via very small increments then deciding if I want to push it. That's why 750W PSU including cautionary reasons. Slow upgrader and I've been meaning to build a new PC for the last three years.
So, will my new build greatly exceed the capabilities of my current pre-built P.O.S. then?

EDIT: Heatsink and fan for CPU or use the one in the box? More 120mm fans, ZERO Blue LED ricer, for the case or wait and see? Good thing I read the manuals and have a few guides bookmarked on my current shite PC.

Core Unlocker, while it is available for AMD, if you're intending to buy the 6 core CPU, you need not worry about it, as you'll have nothing to unlock. However, if you intend to buy a cheap X2 processor to get you by until Bulldozer, then you might have options, though I am not completely sure as to which CPUs are capable of what. My current build consists of a x3 CPU that I unlocked the 4th core on, so I know that it is a possibility.

As to your preference of items that haven't crapped out on you in the past, while I can understand your preference, I must say, at some point, you are going to run out of stuff you'll be willing to buy. LG makes some of the better drives on the market. If you had a bad experience, well, you likely would've had the same on something else.

Heatsink and fan... well, Hyper212 plus is probably your answer:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-065-_-Product

It is an awesome cooler, quiet, and cheap compared to some of the other monsters out there.

As for the SSD, it'd mainly be your OS only. Something like this would be great for your OS drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-357-_-Product

With your SSD, you'd mainly want to focus on your primary applications. Office, Adobe, Flash, etc. etc. Store your games on a rotating disk as they'll take up a lot of space.

As for your current plans, sure, it'll knock the socks off of your old one. But you will be best served waiting for BD. If you buy the X2 or Sempron to get you by, you'll have made a very smart move, IMO. Everything else looks good from what you have. It ain't SB, but it should still be a good step up for you.

 

[Ray_Rogers2019]

Core Unlocker, while it is available for AMD, if you're intending to buy the 6 core CPU, you need not worry about it, as you'll have nothing to unlock. However, if you intend to buy a cheap X2 processor to get you by until Bulldozer, then you might have options, though I am not completely sure as to which CPUs are capable of what. My current build consists of a x3 CPU that I unlocked the 4th core on, so I know that it is a possibility.

As to your preference of items that haven't crapped out on you in the past, while I can understand your preference, I must say, at some point, you are going to run out of stuff you'll be willing to buy. LG makes some of the better drives on the market. If you had a bad experience, well, you likely would've had the same on something else.

Heatsink and fan... well, Hyper212 plus is probably your answer:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-065-_-Product

It is an awesome cooler, quiet, and cheap compared to some of the other monsters out there.

As for the SSD, it'd mainly be your OS only. Something like this would be great for your OS drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-357-_-Product

With your SSD, you'd mainly want to focus on your primary applications. Office, Adobe, Flash, etc. etc. Store your games on a rotating disk as they'll take up a lot of space.

As for your current plans, sure, it'll knock the socks off of your old one. But you will be best served waiting for BD. If you buy the X2 or Sempron to get you by, you'll have made a very smart move, IMO. Everything else looks good from what you have. It ain't SB, but it should still be a good step up for you.

So would the above heatsink be better compared to the stock one in this link? I barely know anything about heatsinks at the moment and wouldn't mind using the stock one for now in the meantme. Inless if I notice vast discrepancies for heat on the CPU. More as an afterthought along with more 120mm fans. Good thing the enclosure is USB 3.0
I'm through with my current computer and impatiently waiting until currently built one is completed.:thumbsup:

So should I make a list of games I own and planning on owning in the PC Game section? One of them is GTA IV including Episodes from Liberty City along with the ENB mod. Yup I already have 360 controller for Windows and XPadder, not that I'll be needing the latter for Games for Windows including Live titles.

 

[BoomerD]

If you're not overclocking, the stock heat sink/fan should be sufficient.

FWIW, if you post the list of games in the games forum, it's highly unlikely that any of us will go there to see them. If you need/want recommendations for a build to play certain games, post them here instead.

 

[Ray_Rogers2019]

If you're not overclocking, the stock heat sink/fan should be sufficient.

FWIW, if you post the list of games in the games forum, it's highly unlikely that any of us will go there to see them. If you need/want recommendations for a build to play certain games, post them here instead.

I'm planning on to use this build to play the games in this post when I edit it later.

 

[LuluTheMonk]

To reiterate what others have said, why not just sell the mobo you currently have, then buy a 2500k + mobo? While you linked to the 1090T, this is another comparison for the 1100T.

Gaming 2500k vs 1100T
Photo Editing and Audio Encoding
Video Transcoding overclocked

What it comes down to, is what you are willing to pay for. Say you lose $20 on the motherboard, is that worth the increase in performance? If you don't want to do the research on your own, examine the benchmarks and see what is the best value for your money and instead ask for advice, this is what the people who have responded so far in this thread have tried to do.

I personally would choose the CPU that has what I deem to be a significant advantage over the other, even if it means the extra hassle of selling the motherboard and buying a new one.

 

[trexpesto]

I'm extremely anti-LG and since you used the term apps instead of applications, I'll take your suggestions with a grain of salt.

Mistake.

 

[mfenn]

Mistake.

Thanks for the backup! :awe:

OP, I know you have a lot of questions, and it seems like you're coming around, so I'll try to run through them all:

• If you're going to be doing encoding, then look no further than Lulu's Video Transcoding overclocked link. Sandy Bridge is hands-down superior. I normally recommend the i5 2500K, but you may want to look at the i7 2600K since it sounds like you'll be doing a lot of encoding. Also, Sandy Bridge is highly-overclockable and it is much easier to reach high clock speeds than an X6. You can do quite a lot with the cheap Hyper 212+.
• You should post a list of the games that you're interested in this thread so that we can make an informed GPU recommendation.
• If you don't plan to Crossfire, a 650W PSU is more than sufficient for even the most white-knuckle overclocking. This XFX 650W is a great deal after MIR.
• A 60GB SSD is a decent amount of space for a Windows 7 install and your generic apps (no games). 80-120GB would give you plenty of room to even install a few games.

 

[BoomerD]

I'll agree with the OP on one thing...I won't buy any LG products either. Sometimes, all it takes is one bad experience to turn me off a brand. I was the same way with Samsung for years, until Rubycon persuaded me to try a Samsung DVD burner. (couldn't beat the price, so I tried one) I couldn't be happier with the drive...so much so that I bought a new one for my new build. I still don't think I could buy a Samsung appliance though...

Since the OP is dead set against LG, he should consider the Samsung ODDs. They've been rock solid for me.

 

[Ray_Rogers2019]

For the overclocking and CrossFire, I'm planning on doing that eventually but not immediately.
Here's my internet connection. Cat6 ethernet ALWAYS.

Games I'll be playing. These are owned and the majority are retail unless denoted with an asterisk. ALL VALVe games are RETAIL, with extremely low exceptions.

Spoiler

007: nightfire
ALIEN SWARM *
ALIENS versus PREDATOR - Gold Edition
ALIENS versus PREDATOR 2 + Primal Hunt
America's Army 3 *
AREA 51
ARCANUM (Haven't played yet.)
BACK TO THE FUTURE: The Game 1
BATTLEFIELD 1942 Complete
BRADE RUNNAH
BioShock (present, used to own for 360)
Call of Duty + United Offensive
Call of Juarez
Command & Conquer: The First Decade
The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay - Developer's Cut
Counter-Strike *
Day of Defeat *
Deathmatch Classic *
Deathmatch Source *
DIABLO II
THE DIG
Dino Crisis
DOOM³
The Elder Scrolls III: MORROWIND - Game of the Year Edition
The Elder Scrolls IV: OBLIVION - Game of the Year Edition
FALLOUT Trilogy (1, 2 and Tactics)
Grim Fandango
GTA2
HλLF-LIFE
HλLF-LIFE Opposing Force *
HλLF-LIFE Blue Shift *
HλLF-LIFE² (The Orange Box)
HλLF-LIFE² - Lost Coast *
HλLF-LIFE² - Episode One
HλLF-LIFE² - Episode Two
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb
JADE EMPIRE - Special Edition
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
The Lord of the Rings: War of the Ring
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-Earth
The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-Earth II
The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-Earth II - The Rise of the Witch-King
The Lord of the Rings: Conquest
The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria - Collector's Edition
Max Payne
Metal Gear Solid + VR Missions
The Secret of Monkey Island - Special Edition *
MONKEY ISLAND 2: LeChuck's Revenge - Special Edition *
The Curse of Monkey Island
MOONBASE ALPHA *
NeverWinter Nights + All Expansions (barely played it, love it)
NeverWinter Nights 2
PENUMBRA 1
PORTAL (The Orange Box)
PSYCHONAUTS (Played a bit. Very enjoyable.)
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
RICOCHET *
Romance of the Three Kingdoms XI
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl with Complete 2009/201? (Not playing again until completion of PC.)
SILENT HILL 3 (Barely played it.)
SPLINTER CELL
SPLINTER CELL: Pandora Tomorrow
SPLINTER CELL: Chaos Theory
STAR WARS: Knights of the Old Republic
STAR WARS: Knights of the Old Republic II
TEAM FORTRESS Classic *
TEAM FORTRESS 2 (The Orange Box)
THE THING
TRON 2.0
VAMPIRE: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Planning to buy. Asterisks for this denote I've played the title before on the 360/demo/etcetera.

Spoiler

007 2008: Quantum of Solace *
007 2010: BLOOD STONE
ALIENS versus PREDATOR
Amnesia
BACK TO THE FUTURE: The Game 2-5/6?
Baldur's Gate Complete
BATMAN: Arkham Asylum * (Demo)
BATTLEFIELD 2 * (Complete Compilation)
BATTLEFIELD 2142 - Complete Compilation
BioShock 2 *
blur
BORDERLANDS: Game of the Year Edition
BURNOUT: Paradise *
Call of Duty 2 *
Call of Duty: World at War *
The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena *
CIVILIZATION III Complete
CIVILIZATION IV Complete * (But only for release, not complete)
CIVILIZATION V
Command & Conquer: The Rest
Counter-Strike: Source
Day of Defeat: Source
DEAD SPACE
DEAD SPACE 2
DEUS EX 2/3
The Elder Scrolls V: SKYRIM
EVIL DEAD: Regeneration *
FAHRENHEIT/Indigo Prophecy
FALLOUT 3 - Game of the Year Edition *
FALLOUT New Vegas - Game of the Year Edition * (Only played release, no DLC.)
Grand Theft Auto Classic Trilogy * (1 and 2)
Grand Theft Auto III/Vice City/San Andreas *
GTA IV * + Episodes from Liberty City along with ENB mod
HARD-BOILED 2: Stranglehold *
Icewind Dale Complete
JUST CAUSE
JUST CAUSE 2 * (Demo)
LEFT 4 DEAD
LEFT 4 DEAD 2
The Lord of the Rings: War in the North
MAFIA
MAFIA II
MASS EFFECT * (Played it for a slight bit on current computer. SHIT. Going to wait for new PC for another go.)
Max Payne 2/3
Medal of Honor 10th Anniversary Bundle
METRO 2033
Mirror's Edge
Need for Speed Series (Release older from oldest to most current.)
OVERLORD *
OVERLORD II
PORTAL 2
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat (correct publishing order?)
The Saboteur
Sherlock Holmes Series including versus Jack the Ripper
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon, HAWX, Rainbow Six and others Series.
Tom Clancy's SPLINTER CELL: Double Agent * (Still need to finish the rest of Pandora Tomorrow and "officially" start Chaos Theory.)
TOTAL WAR Series, Medieval 1 which housemate owns and the rest in sequential order with all expansions including SHOGUN 2.
Wheelman
WOLFENSTEIN * (But very small bit, main reason for building new computer FINALLY.)
X-COM series pack from Steam

Not finished but I'll add more later.

 

[mnewsham]

That upload makes me cringe. Verizon FIOS 25mb/s download and upload FTW.

Looks like gtx 570 or hd 6950

 

[dpodblood]

Wow OP I could give you lots of suggestions, but the amount of disrespect from you in this thread is pretty unbelievable... People give you good advice and the first thing you do is start slinging around insults; calling people "fainbois" and "ricers." If you think you know what decisions are best than don't bother to some in here and ask. Either listen to the advice respectfully, or just leave.

 

[Rvenger]

Retracted my statement

 

[Ray_Rogers2019]

That upload makes me cringe. Verizon FIOS 25mb/s download and upload FTW.

Looks like gtx 570 or hd 6950

I figure I'll go for the 6950 2GB flash to 6970. With a guide, should I go for it?
Here's an update for speed and ping. I only think I'm using one Cat6 cable from the router and from the switch either Cat5/Cat5e.
I have even more games which I own and more to buy, should I update the post or pass?

Wow OP I could give you lots of suggestions, but the amount of disrespect from you in this thread is pretty unbelievable... People give you good advice and the first thing you do is start slinging around insults; calling people "fanboys" and "ricers." If you think you know what decisions are best than don't bother to some in here and ask. Either listen to the advice respectfully, or just leave.

People have been calling me "fanboi" and I've been commenting I don't want to make this a ricer. Which is far too many Blue LEDs along with looking like complete and utter shite which I don't want.
Please read the past several prior posts.
My stance for LG, might've explained before, was due to a previous product of theres so I won't be purchasing anything manufactured by them.

Updating games list. I wonder what sort of framerate I achieve along with the 4GB patcher application? Of course completely annihilating my current Compaq/Pre-built piece of shit.

 

[mnewsham]

I am 3 floors away from my router on my laptop right now, so if i were closer or using an Ethernet connection i would achieve better speeds. (i pay for 25/25)


I would get the 6950, idk if i would bother flashing to the 6970 though.

 

[BoomerD]

My internet is a bit slow today...

Usually, my ping is <16 ms, and my download speed is over 30 Mb/s.

Not bad for what I pay...

 

[mnewsham]

My internet is a bit slow today...



Usually, my ping is <16 ms, and my download speed is over 30 Mb/s.

Not bad for what I pay...

Yeah, i get my 25Mb/s up and down for about $50 per month.

 

[BoomerD]

Yeah, i get my 25Mb/s up and down for about $50 per month.

I'm actually not sure how much my internet costs by itself. We have a Comcast bundle that gives me 240 TV channels, 16 Mb/s guaranteed internet, and unlimited telephone service. Comes to $112/mo with taxes and equipment rental fees.

 

[mnewsham]

Im sitting at around 300 when all is said and done, that's with phone, cable, and internet. Also i have 300+ SD channels and 150+ HD Channels PLUS about $40 a month in movies.

I have been debating if adding another $150 a month for the Download 150 Mbps/Upload 35 Mbps package would be worth it. I've wanted to for awhile but i cant justify the cost yet xD

 

[Ray_Rogers2019]

Yeah, i get my 25Mb/s up and down for about $50 per month.

I'm actually not sure how much my internet costs by itself. We have a Comcast bundle that gives me 240 TV channels, 16 Mb/s guaranteed internet, and unlimited telephone service. Comes to $112/mo with taxes and equipment rental fees.

Im sitting at around 300 when all is said and done, that's with phone, cable, and internet. Also i have 300+ SD channels and 150+ HD Channels PLUS about $40 a month in movies.

I have been debating if adding another $150 a month for the Download 150 Mbps/Upload 35 Mbps package would be worth it. I've wanted to for awhile but i cant justify the cost yet xD

Damn shame South Korea already want to have in place countrywide 1/Gbps per month for $27. I'm paying for 16mbps but getting 30mbps according to Speedtest. Wonder why I'm getting crappy upload rates. For the USA, would be better waiting for prices to go lower for better speeds.
Gigabit switch but current computer is a 10/100mbps port. Guess I'll be buying Cat6 RJ45 cable from Monoprice.
Still adding games to the list. With a game listing site online and I've forgtotten the name of it. Can't register there any longer and been a member there for quite a long time.
For fresh install since I'm porting the data over, would I still be able to keep my Firefox bookmarks?

EDIT: How about a new keyboard and mouse down the line? But that'd be an entirely new mess.

 

[Davidh373]

^Haha! You did it!

Anyways, Intel does have the better performing systems for less money now. It's not about being a fanboy, it's about the benches. The fact is the only way you are going to get anywhere near good performance off your system is to get a 1100T, and at around $230 it's a doosie when you consider you can almost add 30&#37; to it's performance with a $225 i5 2500K. At this point you might want to take that Mobo and sell it, or maybe create a low budget server or internet machine with it later. It is a great platform for a low wattage server after all

i5 2500K vs. Phenom II X6 1100T BE

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=203

Yah, we're totally Intel fanboys

anyway, to finish off

Use HDD A, for RAM get some GSkill 1333 Value (do not get XMS3), and why oh why would you spend extra for a burner... Get a BD ROM with DVD RW and be done with it. Blu Ray discs cost far too much to be effective for any sort of burning.

I'll take your suggestions with a grain of salt.

mfenn is one of the most intelligent people on the forums here. You are rather insulting, sir.

 

[Davidh373]

Not finished but I'll add more later.

Wow, some list there. Almost competes with mine

 

[Ray_Rogers2019]

^Haha! You did it!

Anyways, Intel does have the better performing systems for less money now. It's not about being a fanboy, it's about the benches. The fact is the only way you are going to get anywhere near good performance off your system is to get a 1100T, and at around $230 it's a doosie when you consider you can almost add 30% to it's performance with a $225 i5 2500K. At this point you might want to take that Mobo and sell it, or maybe create a low budget server or internet machine with it later. It is a great platform for a low wattage server after all

i5 2500K vs. Phenom II X6 1100T BE

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=203

Yah, we're totally Intel fanboys

anyway, to finish off

Use HDD A, for RAM get some GSkill 1333 Value (do not get XMS3), and why oh why would you spend extra for a burner... Get a BD ROM with DVD RW and be done with it. Blu-ray discs cost far too much to be effective for any sort of burning.
mfenn is one of the most intelligent people on the forums here. You are rather insulting, sir.

I'm also a film fanatic is also the reasoning for the burner. Movies broadcast in HD, OAR, film grain retained of which aren't even on Blu-ray disc yet I'll be making BD's of. AVCHDs are cake-walk but why not just have better bitrates?

Wow, some list there. Almost competes with mine

Thing is I haven't even finished listing them all!