Now that I think about it I may understand what is going on. Let me run some traces and do a frame and packet level analysis. What it really changes is TCP/IP stack differences/deficiencies on the PS3.
So, from this, we may actually have the answer as to why it's slow? Will this cover differences like what I noticed? By that, I mean switching ISPs but having the exact same hardware and setup as before?
Bump for update: also posted in OP.
UPDATE: As I said I would, I have finally had the chance to follow the above steps. I can confirm that the guide can and does work. I'm now pulling 500Kb/s (estimated) download speeds over my wireless network, which is known to be slower than wired here. Either way, it's tons faster than I was getting previous over wired at home. I'll be able to test the wired speeds tomorrow.
However, I had problems getting my PS3 to connect to the proxy on Vista. Maybe I choose a bad static IP or something. I tried everything (disable firewall, for one), but simply couldn't get it to work with Vista. I really don't know what it is. However, it worked right away with XP. Set the computer to a static IP, download Privoxy and set it up (takes 30 seconds). Restart the computer (I've heard that can be a problem if you don't), start Privoxy...connect to proxy with PS3. Just like the guide said.
I'm wondering if Vista didn't work because it can use IPv6? I know XP doesn't...hm.
Anyway, if you haven't tried it yet, do it! Once you can get it connected, which is quick and easy, you should notice a difference if you aren't already pulling 500Kb/s-1Mb/s download speeds (though it may be even faster if you have a REALLY fast network).
I'm still waiting on that other modem, so I'll keep this updated.
UPDATE: As I said I would, I have finally had the chance to follow the above steps. I can confirm that the guide can and does work. I'm now pulling 500Kb/s (estimated) download speeds over my wireless network, which is known to be slower than wired here. Either way, it's tons faster than I was getting previous over wired at home. I'll be able to test the wired speeds tomorrow.
However, I had problems getting my PS3 to connect to the proxy on Vista. Maybe I choose a bad static IP or something. I tried everything (disable firewall, for one), but simply couldn't get it to work with Vista. I really don't know what it is. However, it worked right away with XP. Set the computer to a static IP, download Privoxy and set it up (takes 30 seconds). Restart the computer (I've heard that can be a problem if you don't), start Privoxy...connect to proxy with PS3. Just like the guide said.
I'm wondering if Vista didn't work because it can use IPv6? I know XP doesn't...hm.
Anyway, if you haven't tried it yet, do it! Once you can get it connected, which is quick and easy, you should notice a difference if you aren't already pulling 500Kb/s-1Mb/s download speeds (though it may be even faster if you have a REALLY fast network).
I'm still waiting on that other modem, so I'll keep this updated.
When I did my test it was on a Vista Home Premium 64-bit computer that I'm using as a file server. Seemed to work just fine.
I probably did something wrong then, or the computer is messed up (it's my family's, not mine...and I've been away from it for a while...I don't know what they've done to it, haha).
Minor update: I'm now easily getting 1Mb/s download speeds via wireless, so wired should be just as fast (if not slightly more so). I don't know if it was because I moved the wireless antenna a couple inches or messed with the wireless settings a bit...either way, better signal and faster speeds. I once saw it download 2-3Mb in a second! :Q
I've run into an issue using this method. It seems to work great downloads for the most part, but for some reason I can't connect to the online portion of Hot Shots Golf 5 while running through the proxy. I get some error stating that the game could not connect to the server. As soon as I turn the proxy off I can connect immediately. This doesn't happen to all games though. For example, I can play Little Big Planet online with no issues while running through the proxy. Any ideas?
Yeah, it would. But honestly, no one's sure what the exact cause is. This is pretty much guaranteed to work, though.
Strange...I've only played Killzone 2 with Privoxy. I suppose it's not flawless. However, most people don't experience lag or the like even with the slow download speeds, so I doubt this is a huge issue.
I just tested the guide.
Residential Cable Internet: Usually around 7 down/1 up.
Proxy Host: Computer in sig.
Tested speeds while DLing MGS4 demo. Tested for 6 minutes of downloading pre-proxy and post-proxy. Made sure no other computers on the network were using the connection.
Pre-proxy: 317kbps
Post-proxy: 700kbps
2.2x faster with the proxy. Like others have said, I really don't plan on leaving my desktop on just to run a proxy for my PS3 as my desktop is a bit power hungry. But hey, when I want to DL/Stream something off the net, I'll probably throw it up. It seems like it makes a clear difference. I may test it again some other day just to see if it was a fluke, but I doubt it. If I figure out why my linux box isn't posting and fix it, perhaps I'll have that thing host a proxy and then use it all the time. Really though, I don't online game with my PS3 (I bought it primarily as a BRD player) so I'm not overly concerned with net speeds on it.
Regardless, thanks for posting the guide hans!
Residential Cable Internet: Usually around 7 down/1 up.
Proxy Host: Computer in sig.
Tested speeds while DLing MGS4 demo. Tested for 6 minutes of downloading pre-proxy and post-proxy. Made sure no other computers on the network were using the connection.
Pre-proxy: 317kbps
Post-proxy: 700kbps
2.2x faster with the proxy. Like others have said, I really don't plan on leaving my desktop on just to run a proxy for my PS3 as my desktop is a bit power hungry. But hey, when I want to DL/Stream something off the net, I'll probably throw it up. It seems like it makes a clear difference. I may test it again some other day just to see if it was a fluke, but I doubt it. If I figure out why my linux box isn't posting and fix it, perhaps I'll have that thing host a proxy and then use it all the time. Really though, I don't online game with my PS3 (I bought it primarily as a BRD player) so I'm not overly concerned with net speeds on it.
Regardless, thanks for posting the guide hans!
No problem.
I'm glad it can help some people out. Like I said, online play itself should be fine without Privoxy. PSN seems to only be slow with downloads themselves. So, for those not wanting to keep it up all the time, it's a good way to speed up your downloads considerably. Just turn it off when done, unless you're just going to download overnight. Sometimes it's just no fun to wait, though. 
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Lifer
- Oct 19, 2000
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Originally posted by: hans030390
Just turn it off when done, unless you're just going to download overnight. Sometimes it's just no fun to wait, though.
Hell, if this is boosting people's speeds so dramatically, you won't need to download shit overnight anymore. I still haven't taken the time to try it, I need to put that on my to-do list.
So much for testing out a different modem...the guy I bought it from sent me a much older version that what he listed. So, unless he can get me the right version really quickly (before I go back to school), I guess I won't be able to test for a long while...
Ok, I have my PS3 connected with the proxy. My dad turned the computer running Privoxy off while I was playing Killzone 2. For some reason, I was not disconnected...and I've been playing for a while after...?
I would guess something was not setup correctly and you were in fact not going through the proxy.
- Aug 22, 2001
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Since I wired the house with Cat5e and upgraded to the 15Mbps road runner turbo (free for 12 months too= $120 savings woot!) I have dispensed with wireless access for anything but my laptop. The PS3 has been very fast since doing so, and the KZ2 demo downloaded so fast I actually exclaimed "damn!"
Golgatha
Lifer
- Jul 18, 2003
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What would be sweet is the ability to update all games, OS, and download all freebie content for the games you have on the PS3 with shutdown after download. I hate it when I pick up a game I haven't played in awhile and there's a large patch ready to download. It would be nice if PSN could operate like Steam when it comes to patching games and keeping the underlying software up-to-date.
Nope...it is definitely set up right. If it's not, the PS3 won't connect when I try to enter in a proxy to connect with. I checked my PS3's network settings, in this situation, and it was definitely still using the proxy.
For anyone who tries this NOW, it seems as though the PSN is having issues of sorts. Two days ago I was getting really fast download speeds. Now I'm getting slow speeds...and ever slower without the proxy. I heard it's just the PSN being weird (servers did crash not too long ago).
Krazy4Real
Lifer
- Oct 3, 2003
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Wow. I can't believe I waited so long to try this. It is a night and day difference. Anyone in the Chicagoland area that uses Comcast should definitely try this. It made a huge difference for me.
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