Skylake/Broadwell Roadmap Update @Vr-zone

[chonicle]

First round Skylake-y test device is already in some media's hand. Cinebench 11.5 shows 2.4
Expect it around June...

 

[witeken]

It is. Look back to IVB and HSW. 1-3 months delay is business as usual.

If you look at the quote I've given, to me it doesn't look business as usual. You don't delay a product for no reasons. In case of IVB and HSW, it was for inventory reasons.

 

[mikk]

First round Skylake-y test device is already in some media's hand. Cinebench 11.5 shows 2.4
Expect it around June...

Why should we trust someone with only 2 postings without any proof?

 

[Fjodor2001]

rumors from some Chinese site:
broadwell 5y10/70 test, 5y31/51/71 actual product
skylake the same.
skylake-y test out July and 20-30% improvement compared to 5y70 on yoga3pro.
cherrytail out April, igpu 10-15% improvement

Just rumors.

What Chinese site? Any links?

 

[witeken]

Anyone noticed the unusual date for IDF15?

http://portal.sanfrancisco.travel/calendar_public/home.cfm

 

[Arachnotronic]

Anyone noticed the unusual date for IDF15?

http://portal.sanfrancisco.travel/calendar_public/home.cfm

Trying to stay out of Apple's way

 

[witeken]

Trying to stay out of Apple's way

No, it would be ridiculous if Intel gave in to Apple's silliness. They could also hold IDF a bit earlier or later, not a full month.

 

[chonicle]

What Chinese site? Any links?

For interested, http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3575434876?pn=1

He mentioned skylake will be pretty nice.

 

[Fjodor2001]

Google translated to English:

https://translate.google.com/transl.../tieba.baidu.com/p/3575434876?pn=1&edit-text=

But I don't see much details about what he has based his assumptions regarding performance improvements etc on. No benchmarks or similar.

 

[chonicle]

Google translated to English:

https://translate.google.com/transl.../tieba.baidu.com/p/3575434876?pn=1&edit-text=

But I don't see much details about what he has based his assumptions regarding performance improvements etc on. No benchmarks or similar.

He did a cinebench 11.5 and get 2.4. but no further information because the no leaking contract. It's still in test stage but you can see June in title. Skylake is also going to come in two rounds(5y10/70,5y31/51/71) and that is the first round test device.

 

[Ajay]

Intel did say that they would have more to say in the new year (at the last IDF). What is the next big event that Intel might use to reveal more info?

 

[Fjodor2001]

IDF 2015 in Shenzhen, April 8-9 perhaps?

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...orum-idf/shenzhen/2015/idf-2015-shenzhen.html

 

[Ajay]

IDF 2015 in Shenzhen, April 8-9 perhaps?

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...orum-idf/shenzhen/2015/idf-2015-shenzhen.html

Good, lets hope we get some real info on Skylake by then!

 

[III-V]

Good, lets hope we get some real info on Skylake by then!

Heh, I think that's pretty unlikely. Intel didn't say squat about Broadwell until about a month before its paper launch. Skylake's been even more of an enigma.

 

[witeken]

Good, lets hope we get some real info on Skylake by then!

Last year at that IDF, they announced Braswell. We know how that turned out!

 

[Ajay]

You guys are making me sad :\
I'm hoping BW was an anomaly.

 

[III-V]

You guys are making me sad :\
I'm hoping BW was an anomaly.

It is in terms of delay, but the industry in general has closed off quite a bit. It's for the better, but I don't like not having upcoming technologies to read about.

 

[witeken]

It's for the better, but I don't like not having upcoming technologies to read about.

There's lots of technologies to write about.

 

[III-V]

There's lots of technologies to write about.

Trying :\

 

[Ajay]

There's lots of technologies to write about.

I'm interested in the core uArch - wondering if we will see anything significant. There are plenty of rumors, but I'd rather have info from Intel (for indirectly from an AT front page art.).

 

[Fjodor2001]

I'm interested in the core uArch - wondering if we will see anything significant. There are plenty of rumors, but I'd rather have info from Intel (for indirectly from an AT front page art.).

Are there even any rumors about the Skylake uArch? I've not been able to find much myself unfortunately. Except that it'll have DDR4 and some new instructions; Advanced Vector Extensions 3.2 ("AVX-512F"), Intel SHA Extensions (for SHA-1 and SHA-256 Secure Hash Algorithms), Intel MPX (Memory Protection Extensions), and Intel ADX (Multi-Precision Add-Carry Instruction Extensions). Of those at least AVX512-F will only be included on the Xeon chips.

 

[witeken]

Are there even any rumors about the Skylake uArch? I've not been able to find much myself unfortunately. Except that it'll have DDR4 and some new instructions; Advanced Vector Extensions 3.2 ("AVX-512F"), Intel SHA Extensions (for SHA-1 and SHA-256 Secure Hash Algorithms), Intel MPX (Memory Protection Extensions), and Intel ADX (Multi-Precision Add-Carry Instruction Extensions). Of those at least AVX512-F will only be included on the Xeon chips.

If you go to, say, this page: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6355/intels-haswell-architecture/7 then you can probably do some extrapolation.

 

[chonicle]

OK. Intel requested Skylake to release in August. And Cherry trail's performance will be cut to avoid collision with other products. Won't support SSD, graphic performance will be limited.

Source(Chinese): http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3591178707

 

[witeken]

So still yield issues at the root of the delay.

 

[mikk]

Sounds like Q4 2015 launch for Skylake-S.