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Doboji

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Linflas
How is the B driver screwing with traffic? If I am one of the people playing by the rules I am applauding B because he is not allowing A to screw over all the people who have been waiting patiently like they should. The ones that anger me are the ones that let morons like A back in so they end up benefitting from their flagrant disregard for the rules.


Because now the rest of the universe has to wait for either B or A to get off their holier than thou mountain peak... By all means flick him off when you let him in... but for the sake of sanity... give way.

If I am B all I am doing is staying close enough to the car in front of me to prevent said moron from getting in between us. I don't see how that would affect anyone other than the idiot stranded in the lane he should not be in unless you are on a bus that is in the bus only lane and come up on the idiot.


Impossible... if A is determined enough all he needs is 2 inches to get enough of his car in to make you stop. I've seen it a billion times, and if you watch closely... you'll see it happen too.

-Max

Living in the DC area I encounter this crap everyday and trust me they do not get in front of me. I will hit them and let them explain why they are merging in from a place they do not belong. Generally what happens is they sit there with their turn signal on until some sap does let them in. This is what they count on and why they do it in the first place.


FYI the source for this rant was South Capital street where it hits the Douglas bridge.
And if you hit him... guess what happens... traffic stops for your accident.

-Max
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Linflas
How is the B driver screwing with traffic? If I am one of the people playing by the rules I am applauding B because he is not allowing A to screw over all the people who have been waiting patiently like they should. The ones that anger me are the ones that let morons like A back in so they end up benefitting from their flagrant disregard for the rules.


Because now the rest of the universe has to wait for either B or A to get off their holier than thou mountain peak... By all means flick him off when you let him in... but for the sake of sanity... give way.

If I am B all I am doing is staying close enough to the car in front of me to prevent said moron from getting in between us. I don't see how that would affect anyone other than the idiot stranded in the lane he should not be in unless you are on a bus that is in the bus only lane and come up on the idiot.


Impossible... if A is determined enough all he needs is 2 inches to get enough of his car in to make you stop. I've seen it a billion times, and if you watch closely... you'll see it happen too.

-Max

Living in the DC area I encounter this crap everyday and trust me they do not get in front of me. I will hit them and let them explain why they are merging in from a place they do not belong. Generally what happens is they sit there with their turn signal on until some sap does let them in. This is what they count on and why they do it in the first place.


FYI the source for this rant was South Capital street where it hits the Douglas bridge.
And if you hit him... guess what happens... traffic stops for your accident.

-Max

This thread reminds me why I was willing to take a pay cut to drop out of the DC commuting rat race and work for the school system in the county I live in. :beer:
 

Doboji

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This thread reminds me why I was willing to take a pay cut to drop out of the DC commuting rat race and work for the school system in the county I live in. :beer:

Yeah I just finally relented and agreed to pay out of the ears to live near where I work. But I'm stuck back out in Southern Maryland commuting to Northern Virginia for the rest of this week.

:beer: To escaping the DC traffic hell hole.

-Max
 

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In this scenario I could have been either of the fvcktards. I see people around me, when driving, as obstacles. I do let them out, but since 98% of people drive slower and with less expedience than I, I am forced to see them as obstacles to be overcome. I will cut around traffic, take open spaces in traffic, etc. If everybody would stop driving like they had 6 hours to get where they're going I would not have such a distaste for everybody else, but until people realize that I have somewhere to be that's more important than behind their sorry ass going at the speed limit I will continue to drive aggressively and efficiently.
 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
In this scenario I could have been either of the fvcktards. I see people around me, when driving, as obstacles. I do let them out, but since 98% of people drive slower and with less expedience than I, I am forced to see them as obstacles to be overcome. I will cut around traffic, take open spaces in traffic, etc. If everybody would stop driving like they had 6 hours to get where they're going I would not have such a distaste for everybody else, but until people realize that I have somewhere to be that's more important than behind their sorry ass going at the speed limit I will continue to drive aggressively and efficiently.

Skoorb = Hitler
:p
/thread
 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
In this scenario I could have been either of the fvcktards. I see people around me, when driving, as obstacles. I do let them out, but since 98% of people drive slower and with less expedience than I, I am forced to see them as obstacles to be overcome. I will cut around traffic, take open spaces in traffic, etc. If everybody would stop driving like they had 6 hours to get where they're going I would not have such a distaste for everybody else, but until people realize that I have somewhere to be that's more important than behind their sorry ass going at the speed limit I will continue to drive aggressively and efficiently.


But seriously.... it's a very simple mathematical issue... if you stayed with the flow of traffic... you wouldn't lose more than a few minutes maximum. But because so many people drive like you, overall traffic speed is slowed substantially. So that cumulatively your actions or the actions of people like you actually reduces your efficiency. It is only your short sightedness that leads you to believe that you are being efficient. In reality your driving method is extremely inefficient, and is in fact extremely counterproductive.

-Max
 

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Originally posted by: Doboji
But seriously.... it's a very simple mathematical issue... if you stayed with the flow of traffic... you wouldn't lose more than a few minutes maximum. But because so many people drive like you, overall traffic speed is slowed substantially. So that cumulatively your actions or the actions of people like you actually reduces your efficiency. It is only your short sightedness that leads you to believe that you are being efficient. In reality your driving method is extremely inefficient, and is in fact extremely counterproductive.

-Max
Here's some simple math: if the speed limit is 70 and one guy is going 70, everybody behind him is going 70 also. If we're all allowed to go 80, we all get where we're going faster. This results in less people on the road and more time saved for those who are driving.

That aside, let's look at your statement for a sec. If I have just gained three cars how is that slowing ME down? It may slow everybody behind me down, but that won't affect me, and whether _I_ drive in a manner that slows everybody else down or not won't change how others drive. I have been stuck behind enough imbeciles at lights to know that sometimes being just one car ahead can be the difference between waiting two minutes at the next light or not. Further, sometimes I drive so spectacularly that I have essentially a zero impact on traffic around me, so in essence my expediency is all but removing me from the rest of the cars; instead of being just another person in a long line of traffic I am not even noticed. Such techniques to encourage this are using the merging lane until the last second (it's good road, why waste it?), taking an off-ramp and then immediately getting back on the highway (thus saving oneself 1/4 or 1/2 of bumper to bumper traffic), taking a right at a red and immediately u-turning then taking another right (saves everyone behind me the pain of another car in front of them that has to speed up at the green).

You know until computers are driving cars I have to use my wit and determination to make my travels as quick and painless as possible for me, and we won't be using computers to drive our cars any time soon because technophobics and those who "like driving" have no interest in it.

 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Doboji
But seriously.... it's a very simple mathematical issue... if you stayed with the flow of traffic... you wouldn't lose more than a few minutes maximum. But because so many people drive like you, overall traffic speed is slowed substantially. So that cumulatively your actions or the actions of people like you actually reduces your efficiency. It is only your short sightedness that leads you to believe that you are being efficient. In reality your driving method is extremely inefficient, and is in fact extremely counterproductive.

-Max
Here's some simple math: if the speed limit is 70 and one guy is going 70, everybody behind him is going 70 also. If we're all allowed to go 80, we all get where we're going faster. This results in less people on the road and more time saved for those who are driving.

That aside, let's look at your statement for a sec. If I have just gained three cars how is that slowing ME down? It may slow everybody behind me down, but that won't affect me, and whether _I_ drive in a manner that slows everybody else down or not won't change how others drive. I have been stuck behind enough imbeciles at lights to know that sometimes being just one car ahead can be the difference between waiting two minutes at the next light or not. Further, sometimes I drive so spectacularly that I have essentially a zero impact on traffic around me, so in essence my expediency is all but removing me from the rest of the cars; instead of being just another person in a long line of traffic I am not even noticed. Such techniques to encourage this are using the merging lane until the last second (it's good road, why waste it?), taking an off-ramp and then immediately getting back on the highway (thus saving oneself 1/4 or 1/2 of bumper to bumper traffic), taking a right at a red and immediately u-turning then taking another right (saves everyone behind me the pain of another car in front of them that has to speed up at the green).

You know until computers are driving cars I have to use my wit and determination to make my travels as quick and painless as possible for me, and we won't be using computers to drive our cars any time soon because technophobics and those who "like driving" have no interest in it.


*sigh*

It's people like you.....

*sigh*

-Max
 

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Originally posted by: Doboji
*sigh*

It's people like you.....

*sigh*

-Max
People like me to who like to minimize time spent on the road? I shan't apologize for wanting to get where I'm going quickly and resent those ahead of me who are leisurely driving along, oblivious to the hundreds of people behind them who are sick and tired of their speed-limit nonsense.

 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Doboji
*sigh*

It's people like you.....

*sigh*

-Max
People like me to who like to minimize time spent on the road? I shan't apologize for wanting to get where I'm going quickly and resent those ahead of me who are leisurely driving along, oblivious to the hundreds of people behind them who are sick and tired of their speed-limit nonsense.


But the problem is you are over-confident. Your belief that you are this amazing driver... it makes you dangerous. So many people out there think like you, and then proceed to crash and kill someone. ESPECIALLY in the area I'm commuting from... you see these so called "more efficient" drivers killing themselves left and right.... the little crosses in the medians and in front of trees. I don't drive the speed limit... I drive significantly faster... On the beltway here people drive about 70-75 when the speed limit is 55. If you decide that you're so much better than everyone else that you can go 80-85 to pass everyone, you're not more efficient, you are stupid and dangerous.

-Max
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Doboji
Stupid fvcking asshat morons!!!! I now have a full and complete understanding of why evil exists in the world. It is because of the incomprehensible stupidity of people driving in rush hour traffic. When a lane says Buses only... and has gigantic blinking red lights over it that says do not enter... you'd think people would get the hint, and stay out of that lane. But no of course not... the fcktards think hey... I can skoot by 4-5 other cars there and get ahead a little bit... fvck everyone else I'm mr important... the rules do not apply to me. Now mr. fvcktard finds himself in an immediate merge scenario. Now we add mr. fvcktard B. Who will NOT under any circumstances allow for a merge infront of him... especially from a lane fvcktard A shouldn't even really be in. So now mr. important and mr. self-righteous are at impasse, neither can progress forward, and the traffic behind them screeches to a halt creating a gigantic fubar traffic jam. Which prompts fvcktard C to notice his chance to skoot ahead via the bus lane/donotenter lane taunting him to his left. And the cycle continues.

Whilst I, mr. patient wait the traffic out, and mr polite let people in for the sake of sanity, can do nothing but curse the heavens, whilst simultaneously praying the sea of traffic will part and allow me to escape from the wretched ominous shadow of late-to-work-again-ness. And all I can do is utter insults inside my closed car, and exchange empathetic glances with the other cursed ones around me.

Cliff notes: We need to implement the death penality for rush hour traffic creators.

Love,

Max

we were waiting in a long line at the philly zoo sunday for a parking space. it was a long fvcking line about 200 cars. one fvcking @sshole pulls out passes about 5 to 6 cars and then forces his way in, does it again (i can see this in my rearview mirror) he comes to a crucial bottleneck where he either remains in line or has to go off to another road, he tries to cut me off, i don't let him and he ends up having to go around to the back of the line again.

was i a self righteous prick? mb, call me that if you want, but if i see anyone trying that cr@p and then trying to cut me off, no way i'm letting that happen. not ever.

one @sshole almost caused an accident trying to cut me off, he was one car behind me, there was a merge situation where the lane he was in ended in concrete barriers. he was behind me with barely a car space in front of me, i didn't even try to jam him, there was just no physical way he could have accelerated fast enough to get in front of me but he tried it anyway, ended up having to slam on his brakes and almost caused an accident with the car behind us.

i'm an aggressive driver too, but there is a difference between driving aggressively and driving like a maniac.
 

Legendary

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Doboji
*sigh*

It's people like you.....

*sigh*

-Max
People like me to who like to minimize time spent on the road? I shan't apologize for wanting to get where I'm going quickly and resent those ahead of me who are leisurely driving along, oblivious to the hundreds of people behind them who are sick and tired of their speed-limit nonsense.

A-fvcking-men.
Just as a bit of evidence, back when I was in high school and I first started driving, I drove the speed limit to school. I actually followed a clock, and since the lights in my county are timed, it would always take me exactly 21 minutes to get to high school (due to the lights.)
Driving 9 miles an hour faster than the speed limit allowed me to make every single light, every single day, and it only took me 8 minutes to get to school. Only two cars going the speed limit in both lanes adjacently could stop me. I didn't accelerate once I hit the right speed, nor did I drive dangerously - just bob and weave the whole way through. Worked like a charm.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Peetoeng

If that is bad, wait till you drive in any asian capital.

:|

Just ASIAN CAPITAL? I drove for 4.5 yrs in Seoul and currently have lived in NJ for 8 yrs now. NY City is no better than Seoul.

edit

oh btw, downtown Chicago and downtown Philly aren't exactly cake either.

 

PlatinumGold

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the more i think about it, the more this thread is pissing me off.

there is a difference between SELF RIGHTEOUS and RIGHTEOUS.

there are times when even minor things people are doing is wrong. take for eg. the guy i mentioned in my post about 4 posts up. he was popping out of a line of cars, all waiting for the same thing, passing about 5 or 6 cars and trying to cut back in line. he did this 5 or 6 times and then tried to cut me off too.

it's not "SELF RIGHTEOUS" for me to not let him in. i have the RIGHT OF WAY in that lane and it is WRONG of him to try and cut me off. it's not SELF RIGHTEOUS of me to point that out to him, it's RIGHTEOUS of me to do so. we all have kids waiting, we all have kids who don't like to wait, what makes him think he has the right to cut off everyone else?

 

BriGy86

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Originally posted by: apologetic
9/10 Great rant

Good point though: Evil exists because people are stupid, not because God doesn't fix it. [/religious comments]

agreed, a few stupid people ruin it all for the rest of us
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: BriGy86
Originally posted by: apologetic
9/10 Great rant

Good point though: Evil exists because people are stupid, not because God doesn't fix it. [/religious comments]

agreed, a few stupid people ruin it all for the rest of us

evil exists because some people try to take advantage of a situation and others like Doboji enable it but allowing them to do so. just because others say, NO, you can't take advantage of me, doesn't make them wrong, it means that enablers like Doboji are wrong.

 

BriGy86

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well there's a difference

there's people that try to get advantages by cheating the system or doing it the wrong way

and others that do it the legit way

and what exactly IS he supposed to do?
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Linflas
How is the B driver screwing with traffic? If I am one of the people playing by the rules I am applauding B because he is not allowing A to screw over all the people who have been waiting patiently like they should. The ones that anger me are the ones that let morons like A back in so they end up benefitting from their flagrant disregard for the rules.


Because now the rest of the universe has to wait for either B or A to get off their holier than thou mountain peak... By all means flick him off when you let him in... but for the sake of sanity... give way.

I don't get it. A is in the bus lane right? And he wants to merge now. Why can't B just keep going/tailgate block him...and if A some how got in front of him...why doesn't A just drive by him? (aka, cut him off) I can't see a merging scenario where at least one of them wouldn't go first, unless the traffic in front of them is stopped...in which case no one was going anywhere anyway.
 

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Originally posted by: Doboji
But the problem is you are over-confident. Your belief that you are this amazing driver... it makes you dangerous. So many people out there think like you, and then proceed to crash and kill someone. ESPECIALLY in the area I'm commuting from... you see these so called "more efficient" drivers killing themselves left and right.... the little crosses in the medians and in front of trees. I don't drive the speed limit... I drive significantly faster... On the beltway here people drive about 70-75 when the speed limit is 55. If you decide that you're so much better than everyone else that you can go 80-85 to pass everyone, you're not more efficient, you are stupid and dangerous.

-Max
I am a better driver than most people. I don't see anything particularly egotistical about that statement. I am in the top half. I'm not better than 99% of people, but I'm better than 'most'. Much of this is simply that I pay attention. Also my car handles better than "most" people's, because most people are in SUVs or slow sedans/trucks, etc. As a result I think it's perfectly reasonable to drive faster than "most" people, and I do. I am not a maniac, but I refuse to putter down the road, wormlike, like so many others do.
it's not "SELF RIGHTEOUS" for me to not let him in. i have the RIGHT OF WAY in that lane and it is WRONG of him to try and cut me off. it's not SELF RIGHTEOUS of me to point that out to him, it's RIGHTEOUS of me to do so. we all have kids waiting, we all have kids who don't like to wait, what makes him think he has the right to cut off everyone else?
You're right.
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Linflas
How is the B driver screwing with traffic? If I am one of the people playing by the rules I am applauding B because he is not allowing A to screw over all the people who have been waiting patiently like they should. The ones that anger me are the ones that let morons like A back in so they end up benefitting from their flagrant disregard for the rules.


Because now the rest of the universe has to wait for either B or A to get off their holier than thou mountain peak... By all means flick him off when you let him in... but for the sake of sanity... give way.


Sorry, Linflas is right.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Doboji
Stupid fvcking asshat morons!!!! I now have a full and complete understanding of why evil exists in the world. It is because of the incomprehensible stupidity of people driving in rush hour traffic. When a lane says Buses only... and has gigantic blinking red lights over it that says do not enter... you'd think people would get the hint, and stay out of that lane. But no of course not... the fcktards think hey... I can skoot by 4-5 other cars there and get ahead a little bit... fvck everyone else I'm mr important... the rules do not apply to me. Now mr. fvcktard finds himself in an immediate merge scenario. Now we add mr. fvcktard B. Who will NOT under any circumstances allow for a merge infront of him... especially from a lane fvcktard A shouldn't even really be in. So now mr. important and mr. self-righteous are at impasse, neither can progress forward, and the traffic behind them screeches to a halt creating a gigantic fubar traffic jam. Which prompts fvcktard C to notice his chance to skoot ahead via the bus lane/donotenter lane taunting him to his left. And the cycle continues.

Whilst I, mr. patient wait the traffic out, and mr polite let people in for the sake of sanity, can do nothing but curse the heavens, whilst simultaneously praying the sea of traffic will part and allow me to escape from the wretched ominous shadow of late-to-work-again-ness. And all I can do is utter insults inside my closed car, and exchange empathetic glances with the other cursed ones around me.

Cliff notes: We need to implement the death penality for rush hour traffic creators.

Love,

Max



Originally posted by: BriGy86
well there's a difference

there's people that try to get advantages by cheating the system or doing it the wrong way

and others that do it the legit way

and what exactly IS he supposed to do?

reread his OP. he dislikes BOTH Mr Important and Mr Self Righteous and thinks everyone should be Mr Polite and Mr Patient.

my point is, Mr Polite and Mr Patient's are the ones ENABLING MR Important by allowing him to take advantage of the situation. that doesn't make Mr Self Righteous the guy in the wrong. if there WERE no mr polite and mr patient's than mr important would learn quickly not to try and take advantage of situations.
 

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The ones that anger me are the ones that let morons like A back in so they end up benefitting from their flagrant disregard for the rules.
They piss me off too. I saw a shoving match once and A and B, both at about 35 mph, almost had a crash. One of them was driving on the hard shoulder so as not to give up his spot, even though he was in the wrong. I wouldn't let A in either, but if it was between that an an accident I would probably just give up. I came close to that a couple of years ago in my sentra. An 18 wheeler was doing this exact trick against me at crawling speeds. I refused to give in even though he was pushing me nearly against the guard rail. I was honking the entire time. It was unreal that this prick just kept pushing me in. Finally HE gave up (cock sucker!) and I then drove really slowly while giving him the finger. He actually stopped his truck and walked up to me but I just kept edging along and he got back in. Then to spite him I let another 18 wheeler in. At those speeds it was safe enough though :)
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Doboji
But the problem is you are over-confident. Your belief that you are this amazing driver... it makes you dangerous. So many people out there think like you, and then proceed to crash and kill someone. ESPECIALLY in the area I'm commuting from... you see these so called "more efficient" drivers killing themselves left and right.... the little crosses in the medians and in front of trees. I don't drive the speed limit... I drive significantly faster... On the beltway here people drive about 70-75 when the speed limit is 55. If you decide that you're so much better than everyone else that you can go 80-85 to pass everyone, you're not more efficient, you are stupid and dangerous.

-Max
I am a better driver than most people. I don't see anything particularly egotistical about that statement. I am in the top half. I'm not better than 99% of people, but I'm better than 'most'. Much of this is simply that I pay attention. Also my car handles better than "most" people's, because most people are in SUVs or slow sedans/trucks, etc. As a result I think it's perfectly reasonable to drive faster than "most" people, and I do. I am not a maniac, but I refuse to putter down the road, wormlike, like so many others do.
it's not "SELF RIGHTEOUS" for me to not let him in. i have the RIGHT OF WAY in that lane and it is WRONG of him to try and cut me off. it's not SELF RIGHTEOUS of me to point that out to him, it's RIGHTEOUS of me to do so. we all have kids waiting, we all have kids who don't like to wait, what makes him think he has the right to cut off everyone else?
You're right.



the thing was, the lot filled up very shortly after we got in. if i had let him in, me or some other sucker would have had to go find parking somewhere else because mr important felt it was his right to cut everyone off.

i'm sorry, i don't see how what doboji makes any sense in this scenario. mr patient and mr polite are the ones that enable mr important. so dont go off on mr self righteous because he won't put up with mr importants BS.