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BriGy86

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Originally posted by: BriGy86
well there's a difference

there's people that try to get advantages by cheating the system or doing it the wrong way

and others that do it the legit way

and what exactly IS he supposed to do?

reread his OP. he dislikes BOTH Mr Important and Mr Self Righteous and thinks everyone should be Mr Polite and Mr Patient.

my point is, Mr Polite and Mr Patient's are the ones ENABLING MR Important by allowing him to take advantage of the situation. that doesn't make Mr Self Righteous the guy in the wrong. if there WERE no mr polite and mr patient's than mr important would learn quickly not to try and take advantage of situations.[/quote]

ah i c your point, yes i think that not a damn person should let the one guy in that was on the sholder
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Doboji
*sigh*

It's people like you.....

*sigh*

-Max
People like me to who like to minimize time spent on the road? I shan't apologize for wanting to get where I'm going quickly and resent those ahead of me who are leisurely driving along, oblivious to the hundreds of people behind them who are sick and tired of their speed-limit nonsense.


But the problem is you are over-confident. Your belief that you are this amazing driver... it makes you dangerous. So many people out there think like you, and then proceed to crash and kill someone. ESPECIALLY in the area I'm commuting from... you see these so called "more efficient" drivers killing themselves left and right.... the little crosses in the medians and in front of trees. I don't drive the speed limit... I drive significantly faster... On the beltway here people drive about 70-75 when the speed limit is 55. If you decide that you're so much better than everyone else that you can go 80-85 to pass everyone, you're not more efficient, you are stupid and dangerous.

-Max

The people driving 55 on the beltway are saying the same thing about you blowing by them at 75.
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Skoorb
In this scenario I could have been either of the fvcktards. I see people around me, when driving, as obstacles. I do let them out, but since 98% of people drive slower and with less expedience than I, I am forced to see them as obstacles to be overcome. I will cut around traffic, take open spaces in traffic, etc. If everybody would stop driving like they had 6 hours to get where they're going I would not have such a distaste for everybody else, but until people realize that I have somewhere to be that's more important than behind their sorry ass going at the speed limit I will continue to drive aggressively and efficiently.


But seriously.... it's a very simple mathematical issue... if you stayed with the flow of traffic... you wouldn't lose more than a few minutes maximum. But because so many people drive like you, overall traffic speed is slowed substantially. So that cumulatively your actions or the actions of people like you actually reduces your efficiency. It is only your short sightedness that leads you to believe that you are being efficient. In reality your driving method is extremely inefficient, and is in fact extremely counterproductive.

-Max

This is true, and I used to agree with you. But I now drive like Skoorb, whatever gets me where I'm going fastest is the route I will take. Because that is what others will do. Me, not being an asshole will not stop other people from being assholes. Thus, I cannot beat them and will therefore join them.

Its counterproductive for the whole, but the whole doesn't care either. You can only count on others looking out for the individual, or acting like impotent obstacles that must be navigated around.

Although, I would only end up in car A's situation if I had no idea where I was going.
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Man if small sh!t really gets under his skin I wonder how he'll react when something major happens.
 

BriGy86

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Man if small sh!t really gets under his skin I wonder how he'll react when something major happens.

its the fact that it happens day in and day out year after year
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: BriGy86
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Man if small sh!t really gets under his skin I wonder how he'll react when something major happens.

its the fact that it happens day in and day out year after year

and it's still the enablers that are truly at fault here.

 

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No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: PingSpike
This is true, and I used to agree with you. But I now drive like Skoorb, whatever gets me where I'm going fastest is the route I will take. Because that is what others will do. Me, not being an asshole will not stop other people from being assholes. Thus, I cannot beat them and will therefore join them.

Its counterproductive for the whole, but the whole doesn't care either. You can only count on others looking out for the individual, or acting like impotent obstacles that must be navigated around.

Although, I would only end up in car A's situation if I had no idea where I was going.
I don't necessarily think aggressive driving is counterproductive for the whole anyway though. Distilled its goals are to get where you're going, faster. Basically its tenets are that others are going too slowly and should speed up. I suspect it has a slight positive effect on traffic flow. Afterall it preaches things like taking a back road if the traffic on the interstate is really backed up, when others may be so lazy as to not bother. This saves you time and saves them extra traffic. It also encourages not slowing down to rubber neck and things of this nature. Truly if everyone drove like me I could slash a full five minutes off my commute every day, at least, each way.

 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: BriGy86
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Man if small sh!t really gets under his skin I wonder how he'll react when something major happens.

its the fact that it happens day in and day out year after year
I'm not saying that you shouldn't be annoyed, what I am saying is that you should let it drop immediately and not dwell on it. I know, easier said than done.

 

BriGy86

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Sep 10, 2004
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: BriGy86
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Man if small sh!t really gets under his skin I wonder how he'll react when something major happens.

its the fact that it happens day in and day out year after year

and it's still the enablers that are truly at fault here.

i do agree that you shouldn't be trying to be nice to everyone and accomidate everyone

but on the other hand i don't think you need to be a complete dick either

(those are just the 2 extremes)

i see what your saying though- don't let people take advantage of you
 

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No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: BriGy86
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Man if small sh!t really gets under his skin I wonder how he'll react when something major happens.

its the fact that it happens day in and day out year after year
I'm not saying that you shouldn't be annoyed, what I am saying is that you should let it drop immediately and not dwell on it. I know, easier said than done.
It takes practice. I used to let such small affronts to justice sit and fester but now I am able to ignore them quicker. At least in regards to traffic, if you can see it all as a time-saving game you will not hate the other person so much.

 

kaymin

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Jul 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
The ones that anger me are the ones that let morons like A back in so they end up benefitting from their flagrant disregard for the rules.
They piss me off too. I saw a shoving match once and A and B, both at about 35 mph, almost had a crash. One of them was driving on the hard shoulder so as not to give up his spot, even though he was in the wrong. I wouldn't let A in either, but if it was between that an an accident I would probably just give up. I came close to that a couple of years ago in my sentra. An 18 wheeler was doing this exact trick against me at crawling speeds. I refused to give in even though he was pushing me nearly against the guard rail. I was honking the entire time. It was unreal that this prick just kept pushing me in. Finally HE gave up (cock sucker!) and I then drove really slowly while giving him the finger. He actually stopped his truck and walked up to me but I just kept edging along and he got back in. Then to spite him I let another 18 wheeler in. At those speeds it was safe enough though :)

Next time you do something like that you better hope the guy doens't have a gun stacked away under his seat.

 

SnipeMasterJ13

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Oct 20, 2004
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Just reading this thread pisses me off. I hate traffic. People who drive the speed limit annoy me, but I will take that any day over everyone completely stopping to look at the blinky lights where some jackasses went off the road. Backed up for MILES, for things that aren't even blocking the actual road. Unreal, I just don't get it.
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: PingSpike
This is true, and I used to agree with you. But I now drive like Skoorb, whatever gets me where I'm going fastest is the route I will take. Because that is what others will do. Me, not being an asshole will not stop other people from being assholes. Thus, I cannot beat them and will therefore join them.

Its counterproductive for the whole, but the whole doesn't care either. You can only count on others looking out for the individual, or acting like impotent obstacles that must be navigated around.

Although, I would only end up in car A's situation if I had no idea where I was going.
I don't necessarily think aggressive driving is counterproductive for the whole anyway though. Distilled its goals are to get where you're going, faster. Basically its tenets are that others are going too slowly and should speed up. I suspect it has a slight positive effect on traffic flow. Afterall it preaches things like taking a back road if the traffic on the interstate is really backed up, when others may be so lazy as to not bother. This saves you time and saves them extra traffic. It also encourages not slowing down to rubber neck and things of this nature. Truly if everyone drove like me I could slash a full five minutes off my commute every day, at least, each way.

You're probably right. Then I wouldn't have all those douchebags that think the left lane is for cruising in my road.
 

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No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: kaymin
Originally posted by: Skoorb
The ones that anger me are the ones that let morons like A back in so they end up benefitting from their flagrant disregard for the rules.
They piss me off too. I saw a shoving match once and A and B, both at about 35 mph, almost had a crash. One of them was driving on the hard shoulder so as not to give up his spot, even though he was in the wrong. I wouldn't let A in either, but if it was between that an an accident I would probably just give up. I came close to that a couple of years ago in my sentra. An 18 wheeler was doing this exact trick against me at crawling speeds. I refused to give in even though he was pushing me nearly against the guard rail. I was honking the entire time. It was unreal that this prick just kept pushing me in. Finally HE gave up (cock sucker!) and I then drove really slowly while giving him the finger. He actually stopped his truck and walked up to me but I just kept edging along and he got back in. Then to spite him I let another 18 wheeler in. At those speeds it was safe enough though :)

Next time you do something like that you better hope the guy doens't have a gun stacked away under his seat.
Yeah, because highway shootings happen ALL THE TIME. In fact I know a dozen friends who've all been shot to death on freeways! God, so many people are afraid of some ridiculous fear that they cower away from any confrontation at all.

 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: kaymin
Originally posted by: Skoorb
The ones that anger me are the ones that let morons like A back in so they end up benefitting from their flagrant disregard for the rules.
They piss me off too. I saw a shoving match once and A and B, both at about 35 mph, almost had a crash. One of them was driving on the hard shoulder so as not to give up his spot, even though he was in the wrong. I wouldn't let A in either, but if it was between that an an accident I would probably just give up. I came close to that a couple of years ago in my sentra. An 18 wheeler was doing this exact trick against me at crawling speeds. I refused to give in even though he was pushing me nearly against the guard rail. I was honking the entire time. It was unreal that this prick just kept pushing me in. Finally HE gave up (cock sucker!) and I then drove really slowly while giving him the finger. He actually stopped his truck and walked up to me but I just kept edging along and he got back in. Then to spite him I let another 18 wheeler in. At those speeds it was safe enough though :)

Next time you do something like that you better hope the guy doens't have a gun stacked away under his seat.
Yeah, because highway shootings happen ALL THE TIME. In fact I know a dozen friends who've all been shot to death on freeways! God, so many people are afraid of some ridiculous fear that they cower away from any confrontation at all.

What do you expect from a bunch of pussies on the intarweb? :D
 

Doboji

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May 18, 2001
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Look I'm not saying you politely let everyone around you screw you over in traffic. If you rode in the car with me you would see I am no grandpa driver... I do not do a particularly good job obeying the speed limits. But I also dont get my panties in a bunch and decide to make epic stands against the evil fvcktard A. I will pull up tight and attempt to block his entrance into the lane... HOWEVER... if the guy is determined... rather than whip my cock out and slap it on the table, I will give way. It just not worth the aggravation, and it makes traffic worse. And I stand by my opinion that drivers like Skoorb are a menace on the roads... I'm not saying drive like grandma, I'm saying drive reasonably. And don't think you're oh so good, that you're safe at any speed. Cause you're just not.

-Max
 

Doboji

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May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Doboji
*sigh*

It's people like you.....

*sigh*

-Max
People like me to who like to minimize time spent on the road? I shan't apologize for wanting to get where I'm going quickly and resent those ahead of me who are leisurely driving along, oblivious to the hundreds of people behind them who are sick and tired of their speed-limit nonsense.


But the problem is you are over-confident. Your belief that you are this amazing driver... it makes you dangerous. So many people out there think like you, and then proceed to crash and kill someone. ESPECIALLY in the area I'm commuting from... you see these so called "more efficient" drivers killing themselves left and right.... the little crosses in the medians and in front of trees. I don't drive the speed limit... I drive significantly faster... On the beltway here people drive about 70-75 when the speed limit is 55. If you decide that you're so much better than everyone else that you can go 80-85 to pass everyone, you're not more efficient, you are stupid and dangerous.

-Max

The people driving 55 on the beltway are saying the same thing about you blowing by them at 75.


You obviously have never driven on this beltway... if you're driving 55 you are the EXTREME minority.

-Max
 

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No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: Doboji
Look I'm not saying you politely let everyone around you screw you over in traffic. If you rode in the car with me you would see I am no grandpa driver... I do not do a particularly good job obeying the speed limits. But I also dont get my panties in a bunch and decide to make epic stands against the evil fvcktard A. I will pull up tight and attempt to block his entrance into the lane... HOWEVER... if the guy is determined... rather than whip my cock out and slap it on the table, I will give way. It just not worth the aggravation, and it makes traffic worse. And I stand by my opinion that drivers like Skoorb are a menace on the roads... I'm not saying drive like grandma, I'm saying drive reasonably. And don't think you're oh so good, that you're safe at any speed. Cause you're just not.

-Max
In reality you've not seen me drive, and I won't say I've necessarily provided an accurate representation of how I drive. If you saw me drive you may think I'm still a menace, but you may not. Realize I"m 27 and I've gone 11 years without an accident, so it's hardly as if I'm playing pylons with other cars, cutting them off and running people off the road. I do, however, habitually keep an eye on the faster lane and I'm always looking ahead for cars that I predict to be slow (large vehicles, old vehicles, etc.). I do scoot around traffic but of all the close encounters I've had in the past decade the majority of them have not been my fault.

 

ActuaryTm

Diamond Member
Mar 30, 2003
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
What do you expect from a bunch of pussies on the intarweb? :D
I wouldn't personally shoot Skoorb - just raise his insurance rates.

It's the actuarial equivalent of shooting someone in the face.
 

Doboji

Diamond Member
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Doboji
Look I'm not saying you politely let everyone around you screw you over in traffic. If you rode in the car with me you would see I am no grandpa driver... I do not do a particularly good job obeying the speed limits. But I also dont get my panties in a bunch and decide to make epic stands against the evil fvcktard A. I will pull up tight and attempt to block his entrance into the lane... HOWEVER... if the guy is determined... rather than whip my cock out and slap it on the table, I will give way. It just not worth the aggravation, and it makes traffic worse. And I stand by my opinion that drivers like Skoorb are a menace on the roads... I'm not saying drive like grandma, I'm saying drive reasonably. And don't think you're oh so good, that you're safe at any speed. Cause you're just not.

-Max
In reality you've not seen me drive, and I won't say I've necessarily provided an accurate representation of how I drive. If you saw me drive you may think I'm still a menace, but you may not. Realize I"m 27 and I've gone 11 years without an accident, so it's hardly as if I'm playing pylons with other cars, cutting them off and running people off the road. I do, however, habitually keep an eye on the faster lane and I'm always looking ahead for cars that I predict to be slow (large vehicles, old vehicles, etc.). I do scoot around traffic but of all the close encounters I've had in the past decade the majority of them have not been my fault.


The likelihood is that you and I actually drive very similiarly in a regular scenario. The likelihood is that you haven't spent significant time in, nor have a solid understanding of the type of traffic I experience on my daily commute. For example... this morning... my commute was 2 hours.... I left my house at 7:30AM and arrived shortly after 9:30AM.

According to google... this commute should only be 30 minutes as it's a 22 mile drive.

This is the nature of this particular commute. And it's idiots like I described that add countless minute to the commute. On a moving highway weaving and moving is one thing. In this mind-numbing traffic... it's something completely different.

-Max
 

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No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: ActuaryTm
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
What do you expect from a bunch of pussies on the intarweb? :D
I wouldn't personally shoot Skoorb - just raise his insurance rates.

It's the actuarial equivalent of shooting someone in the face.
You're presuming that I have a higher liklihood of being in a collision than other people, which is not necessarily correct. I assert that I pay more attention than others to my surroundings. Indeed, my following distance is far better than most people, so I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to lock up /stamp on the brakes since I've been driving. The number is about three.
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: PingSpike

The people driving 55 on the beltway are saying the same thing about you blowing by them at 75.


You obviously have never driven on this beltway... if you're driving 55 you are the EXTREME minority.

-Max

So? They're still the only ones not actually breaking the law. You argue that you're better than the guy going 80...when you really could only say that you're "less wrong". If you can handle your car fine at 70 when the speed limit says 55, why can't he handle his car fine at 80 when the limit is the same? Maybe his car has better tires and suspension. Maybe he's a nascar racer.

I'm just playing devils advocate here. :p
 

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No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: Doboji
The likelihood is that you and I actually drive very similiarly in a regular scenario. The likelihood is that you haven't spent significant time in, nor have a solid understanding of the type of traffic I experience on my daily commute. For example... this morning... my commute was 2 hours.... I left my house at 7:30AM and arrived shortly after 9:30AM.

According to google... this commute should only be 30 minutes as it's a 22 mile drive.

This is the nature of this particular commute. And it's idiots like I described that add countless minute to the commute. On a moving highway weaving and moving is one thing. In this mind-numbing traffic... it's something completely different.

-Max
Two hours to travel 22 miles is a fantastic commute. Birmingham can only compare on truly the worst of days with accidents and lots of onlooker's delay.