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Situation with Ted Cruz's daughter.

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emperus said:
That statement is so fake. I assume her parents put her up to that. Disappointed.
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Same. There's really no way a 14yr old is coming up with that. And it's the obviously "correct" political play from Rafael's point of view. Craft the statement, have kid read it, and use that as a shield while staying 2k miles away (literally and figuratively) himself. Rightfully can't criticize the kid so they use that as a defense. There's a reason why he's the least likable POS in congress.
 
emperus said:
That statement is so fake. I assume her parents put her up to that. Disappointed.
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Honestly, I would be willing to believe her remarks. From what I've come to understand about cutting or self-mutilation, it isn't necessarily about suicide. I usually hear remarks like, "I just wanted to feel something."
 
Aikouka said:
Honestly, I would be willing to believe her remarks. From what I've come to understand about cutting or self-mutilation, it isn't necessarily about suicide. I usually hear remarks like, "I just wanted to feel something."
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Sure, it always could have been either a suicide attempt or self-mutilation. That isn't what's hard to believe. It's the part about it having nothing to do with her coming out as bi last year, and whatever happened when her father found out.

We're never going to know for sure, so it's probably best just to drop the matter. Yet I have a feeling this isn't going to be the last we're going to hear about Caroline Cruz.
 
woolfe9998 said:
Sure, it always could have been either a suicide attempt or self-mutilation. That isn't what's hard to believe. It's the part about it having nothing to do with her coming out as bi last year, and whatever happened when her father found out.

We're never going to know for sure, so it's probably best just to drop the matter. Yet I have a feeling this isn't going to be the last we're going to hear about Caroline Cruz.
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People have no real life of there own and seek to live it vicariously. Since I personally don't see us dropping such matters any time soon at our average level of emotional maturity, I surrender to inevitability and think it acceptable to discuss it at least intelligently as possible as I also think you have done.
 
emperus said:
The question is why does she even have remarks? It should have been dealt with with her parents and a counselor alone.
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This—exactly. She should have never had to make that video and it’s just another sign of overexposure via social media. I can’t say for certain if her parents put her up to it or if she’s just being careless on her own, but girl needs to put her shit on private and stop addressing the media. That’s her parents’ job if and when they choose to tell their side.
 
dank69 said:
If Ted Cruz was my father I probably would have been cutting myself too.

Also:
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Still stands even if it wasn't attempted suicide.
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No, a run to Mexico would be the most-est.
 
emperus said:
The question is why does she even have remarks? It should have been dealt with with her parents and a counselor alone.
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Well when you've got a father that's busy spouting insane bullshit, often citing children as though he's protecting them despite the clear proof he's totally a-ok with them being murdered in classrooms.

Aikouka said:
Honestly, I would be willing to believe her remarks. From what I've come to understand about cutting or self-mutilation, it isn't necessarily about suicide. I usually hear remarks like, "I just wanted to feel something."
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I'm not sure that's what they're saying, but rather a kid doesn't really talk like that. And yes, as someone who has dated women that cut, its not suicidal but rather about being an outlet for severe stress and anxiety. (Quick aside: no joke, I actually wonder if society wouldn't experience similar from regular blood donation, lots of high strung high blood pressure people out there; obviously it'd need to be in concert with other lifestyle changes and addressing the sources of the stress). Which, in my experience, cutting behavior is very very very often due to molestation.
 
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Wonder which politician kid has the most messed up life? Baron, is he just a spoiled brat or will he see his father go to jail in a few years? Hunter always playing second fiddle to Beau. I’m afraid for MTG’s kids. Appear to be entitled and think they are above the law even though while their household is richer than the average family, they probably only have a net worth under $5 million in a poor state.
 
Well, there's the odd chance this is a wake up call for Ted and we will see him flip the script.
And noone really exepects that to happen.
And when it doesnt happen, you will know for sure, once again, that Ted is a lost cause... If near death of a child doesnt shake you up nothing will.
 
eelw said:
Wonder which politician kid has the most messed up life? Baron, is he just a spoiled brat or will he see his father go to jail in a few years? Hunter always playing second fiddle to Beau. I’m afraid for MTG’s kids. Appear to be entitled and think they are above the law even though while their household is richer than the average family, they probably only have a net worth under $5 million in a poor state.
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My money is on Trump Jrs kids. They look like hostages in some of their family photos. Although, by all accounts he has very little to do with them at this point which is probably to their benefit. How could he? All his time is spent on cocaine and a scummy wannabe stripper.
 
GodisanAtheist said:
Unless I have clear and direct evidence that Ted Cruz is a shit father I'm not going to say anything against him. You can be a shit person and a great father just like you can be a shit father and (publicly) perceived as a great person.
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Apparently you and I have VERY different ideas about the meaning of the word "great".

Ted Cruz is the physical embodiment of a POS human being even without taking this incident into account in any way.

I feel EXTREMELY sorry for his daughter. :cry:
 
eelw said:
Wonder which politician kid has the most messed up life? Baron, is he just a spoiled brat or will he see his father go to jail in a few years? Hunter always playing second fiddle to Beau. I’m afraid for MTG’s kids. Appear to be entitled and think they are above the law even though while their household is richer than the average family, they probably only have a net worth under $5 million in a poor state.
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Obamas kids seem to be the opposite of that
 
Amol S. said:
Just giving some input here. Every time some family member of a conservative politician comes out LGBTQ, and something bad happens, that politician somehow starts to then support LGBTQ somewhat. That is what happened with Liz Cheney. Could this mean Ted Cruz might soon start supporting LGBTQ?
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Ill try and look this up. If true then Liz++ in my book.
 
She came out in favor of same sex marriage in September of last year.

www.npr.org

Liz Cheney Says She Was 'Wrong' In Opposing Same-Sex Marriage

Cheney expressed regret over her earlier opposition to same-sex marriage, a stance that caused a rift within her own family.
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Her father was publicly supportive of LGBT at least 10 years back, right about when it came out that Mary Cheney is a lesbian.

I suspect Liz has been supportive for a lot longer than a year, but after she came out against Trump and essentially got dumped by the republican party, she may as well be honest about it. Didn't show a lot of courage on this, but at this point Liz Cheney is one the least bad republicans so I'm inclined to let it go.
 
HomerJS said:
Obamas kids seem to be the opposite of that
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Which would be consistent with my sense that Obama is a more admirable as a human being than as a President. Never thought he got that much accomplished in the latter capacity, but he always seemed like an entirely decent man on a personal level. Which is far from the norm for US Presidents (most of them seem to have been scoundrels).
 
My father once told me that surest way to end up with children who become liberals as adults is to raise them in conservative households.
 
Amol S. said:
Just giving some input here. Every time some family member of a conservative politician comes out LGBTQ, and something bad happens, that politician somehow starts to then support LGBTQ somewhat. That is what happened with Liz Cheney. Could this mean Ted Cruz might soon start supporting LGBTQ?
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Nope, the fact he stayed in DC shows where his priorities are... and they are not with his daughter.
 
Vic said:
My father once told me that surest way to end up with children who become liberals as adults is to raise them in conservative households.
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Strict religious upbringing also produces agnostics and atheists.
 
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