Sitting in a FrontPage training class...DAY TWO!

[DrPizza]

Suggestion: Work ahead and get the instructor to say "wow, how did you do that?" One of the first training days we had, several years ago, I was asked by my "boss" which training exercise exercise I'd like to do. I had a choice of 5 or 6 things. I told him to pick whichever one he needed me for; I was a little rusty with choice 3, but didn't think I'd have trouble training people how to use it.... "Oh, I'm not the one training other people? Stick me into whichever group you think the trainer will have trouble with then."

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: KingNothing

Originally posted by: Josh
If anything, you should have taken a class teaching Dreamweaver. Now that is some good software!

No, see, I'm not a web developer. I'm an Access DBA. I'm just here to do something different for a day (and still be paid).

Last couple hours have been spent learning how to do tables. We're basically learning how to do the same things you can do in Word, in FrontPage.

I made something slightly different.

If anyone has some webspace I'll upload it.

YGPM

 

[SSP]

Originally posted by: dquan97

Originally posted by: ISAslot
I :heart: Dreamweaver

Me 2.

I originally used front page and its easier then wiping my ass with toilet paper. Speaking of which... gotta run.

 

[KingNothing]

Hey, I learned something new. FrontPage has this thing called Shared Borders which looks kind of like frames but isn't. Run away, far away. The class just spent an hour with it trying to make it work. I pointed out that no web page uses this technique to make navigation bars unless it would be targeting an audience with really old browsers that don't support frames. I hope the teacher has the sense to skip this section.

Now I'm trying to muster the motivation to teach myself something else about how to make web pages. Maybe this can of mountain dew has some motivation in it...:disgust:

 

[KingNothing]

linky

Props to RossMan and minendo for helping me to host the fruits of seven mind-numbing hours. Tomorrow I hope to get the javascript menu system up and running, maybe add a flash game to one of the pages, etc. Screw the lesson plan.

 

[compudog]

The shared borders aren't too bad. I agree FP is teh suck, but for some people it works well.


Example

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: compudog
The shared borders aren't too bad. I agree FP is teh suck, but for some people it works well.


<a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.integrity-auditing.com" target=blank>Example </A>

If you can figure out how to make FrontPage XP insert custom code just after the body tag in every page in a project, let me know. Shared borders are fine as long as you use FP's retarded system to create them, unless I'm missing something.

 

[jonmullen]

Originally posted by: NTB
new school CS website - Done on short notice; nothing flashy but perfectly useable. Our project for the semester was to design (or in my case, re-design) a website for a staff or faculty member that wanted one. This one was kind of a pain though, because a)the proffessor teaching the class didn't know what he was doing and b) the proffesor whom I was assigned to for the project didn't care what I did. He said just re-design the homepage or something and that would be good; I don't think he understood that I needed to make a whole website, not just a webpage.

Don't need the webspace anymore; I didn't think this would still be here.

Nate

I take it they did not teach you have to test on browsers other than IE did they.

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: KingNothing
linky

Props to RossMan and minendo for helping me to host the fruits of seven mind-numbing hours. Tomorrow I hope to get the javascript menu system up and running, maybe add a flash game to one of the pages, etc. Screw the lesson plan.

You need to make thoose buttons have transparent backrounds.

The white looks goofy

Of course my site looks like total ass so I can't say a whole lot.

I am trying to figure out headers in Dreamweaver.

 

[compudog]

FP does do some strange things to custom code after the /BODY/ tag. I usually edit the page with notepad before uploading. I have been using FP2K for a while and still discover new quirks/features all the time.

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: jonmullen

Originally posted by: NTB
new school CS website - Done on short notice; nothing flashy but perfectly useable. Our project for the semester was to design (or in my case, re-design) a website for a staff or faculty member that wanted one. This one was kind of a pain though, because a)the proffessor teaching the class didn't know what he was doing and b) the proffesor whom I was assigned to for the project didn't care what I did. He said just re-design the homepage or something and that would be good; I don't think he understood that I needed to make a whole website, not just a webpage.

Don't need the webspace anymore; I didn't think this would still be here.

Nate

I take it they did not teach you have to test on browsers other than IE did they.

In fact, the first thing they did was have us select the option that made our website compatible with IE only. What's not working for you?

I noticed the transparency thing when I got home, looks like I'll have to convert the images to GIF because I can't get Adobe ImageReady to do transparency with PNG files.

 

[piku]

Hey, you can do some pretty good looking stuff with Frontpage if you use it right.

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: piku
Hey, you can do some pretty good looking stuff with Frontpage if you use it right.

Good-looking, yes. Cross-platform compatible, human-readable/editable, non-bloated...not really.

 

[NTB]

Originally posted by: jonmullen

Originally posted by: NTB
new school CS website - Done on short notice; nothing flashy but perfectly useable. Our project for the semester was to design (or in my case, re-design) a website for a staff or faculty member that wanted one. This one was kind of a pain though, because a)the proffessor teaching the class didn't know what he was doing and b) the proffesor whom I was assigned to for the project didn't care what I did. He said just re-design the homepage or something and that would be good; I don't think he understood that I needed to make a whole website, not just a webpage.

Don't need the webspace anymore; I didn't think this would still be here.

Nate

I take it they did not teach you have to test on browsers other than IE did they.

Nope, he told us to use IE specifically:disgust: Why? What doesn't work & what browser are you using?

Nate

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: piku
Hey, you can do some pretty good looking stuff with Frontpage if you use it right.

I made this Site woth FP XP.

I is really easy to use. Yet it is dificult to alot of things. Kinda like the AOL of web design.

Just about any moron can use it BUT there are way better SW solutions that do the job way better just have a higher learning curve.

 

[jonmullen]

Originally posted by: KingNothing

Originally posted by: jonmullen

Originally posted by: NTB
new school CS website - Done on short notice; nothing flashy but perfectly useable. Our project for the semester was to design (or in my case, re-design) a website for a staff or faculty member that wanted one. This one was kind of a pain though, because a)the proffessor teaching the class didn't know what he was doing and b) the proffesor whom I was assigned to for the project didn't care what I did. He said just re-design the homepage or something and that would be good; I don't think he understood that I needed to make a whole website, not just a webpage.

Don't need the webspace anymore; I didn't think this would still be here.

Nate

I take it they did not teach you have to test on browsers other than IE did they.

In fact, the first thing they did was have us select the option that made our website compatible with IE only. What's not working for you?

I noticed the transparency thing when I got home, looks like I'll have to convert the images to GIF because I can't get Adobe ImageReady to do transparency with PNG files.

The bottom paragraph is floating up beind the list items so I can't really read it or some of the list items, worked fine in IE for me, but not in firebird 0.6 or Mozilla 1.4a

 

[piku]

Originally posted by: KingNothing

Originally posted by: piku
Hey, you can do some pretty good looking stuff with Frontpage if you use it right.

Good-looking, yes. Cross-platform compatible, human-readable/editable, non-bloated...not really.

Well OK, I guess I'll give you that All the stuff I ever made I really didn't care if anyone not using IE couldn't view it, so it didn't bother me

 

[jonmullen]

It could have to do with the double blockquoted text inside the div that holds your list. Jesus is looking at Frontpage code torture to anyone else...damn it is ugly, slow bloated.

 

[compudog]

Hey tm37. Your kid is cute! (I'm guessing he's yours...)

 

[fatbaby]

When using frontpage, NEVAR USE NORMAL! Always use html mode =D

 

[jonmullen]

Originally posted by: piku

Originally posted by: KingNothing

Originally posted by: piku
Hey, you can do some pretty good looking stuff with Frontpage if you use it right.

Good-looking, yes. Cross-platform compatible, human-readable/editable, non-bloated...not really.

Well OK, I guess I'll give you that All the stuff I ever made I really didn't care if anyone not using IE couldn't view it, so it didn't bother me

What kinda stuff did you make?

 

[jonmullen]

Originally posted by: fatbaby
When using frontpage, NEVAR USE NORMAL! Always use html mode =D

Friends don't let friends use Frontpage.

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: compudog
Hey tm37. Your kid is cute! (I'm guessing he's yours...)

He is pretty cute

I am going to put stuff on the new site @ McColleyUSA.com

that should rock.

NO MORE GEOSH|TTIES!

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: jonmullen
It could have to do with the double blockquoted text inside the div that holds your list. Jesus is looking at Frontpage code torture to anyone else...damn it is ugly, slow bloated.

Probably. I didn't go through all of it with notepad to get rid of the crap.

 

[piku]

I've just done random websites for my own amusement really. Used to run a videogame cheats website a long while ago that had (at its peak) like 300-500 visitors a day, which at the time was pretty damn good for a 13-14 year old

Anyway, one of my best creations I think is The Coal Cracker, which was a humor newspaper type website that my friends and I were going to do in high school. We were far to lazy to complete it, so all you have is what you see - a lot of placeholder crap

Nothing too impressive, but I thought it looked pretty clean. Always wanted to change the menu though to something a bit nicer, but never got around to doing it.