Single mother fired for saving a life . . .

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DanTMWTMP

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: weezergirl
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
So doing nothing that her friend couldn't have done (or anyone else on the scene for that matter) for the man who was shot gets her a free pass to be careless with company funds and to use company time to drive friends around? She should NOT have been driving friends on company time, that alone is enough to warrant the firing.

ZV
Sure that is fine if that was the reason he fired her but did you read this quote?

"We feel just as bad as the next guy, but we don't pay employees to be EMTs (emergency medical technicians)," Boyd said.

Sorry, but if he was firing her for the specific reasons you stated....a comment like this is just STUPID and shows he has NO heart or brains whatsoever. I don't care if he was just running a business, I'd like to eat at a place that cares about people in general and not just money.
I did NOT say that I thought she was fired for joyriding. I said that the joyriding was sufficient reason for a firing. The eployee was headed for a firing long before this incident. Also, do you have any idea what kind of legal hell she would have opened up for the pizza place if she had done something detrimental? She opened the door to a lawsuit against the company.

And to everyone saying that he should have taken public perception into account, good luck in business. Slackers need to be fired. You can't run a business by being a charity. Public perception is just that, perception. Perception is NOT reality, no matter how much you want it to be.

ZV

You state that she was "headed for a firing long before this incident". Exactly how long have you know this woman and been in any sort of relations between her or her Supervisors? Are you making assumptions? Cause we all know what that makes out of you. You don't know the full details of this and you're just pulling crap outta your a$$ to make yourself not sound like...just that...an A$$

FYI...you should change your nick to Mr. Cleo.

despite saving a life, ZV does make really good points...u have to admit to that at least......i mean, it's really cool that the mother saved that dude....and maybe at least she should've gotten a leave or something.....i mean we really donno what truly went on.....that boss is a stern business man and slackers suck......as for ZV..if i was ever a employer, i'd put him on top of my list of candidates over any of you if i wanted to hire someone..u have to realize in this world, charity is sh!t cuz if ur too nice in a business, u'll fail for sure...but the boss' comment was enough to make other people angry....if he didn't say that, this situation would of course be in favor of the boss...
 
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Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
[despite saving a life, ZV does make really good points...u have to admit to that at least......i mean, it's really cool that the mother saved that dude....and maybe at least she should've gotten a leave or something.....i mean we really donno what truly went on.....that boss is a stern business man and slackers suck......as for ZV..if i was ever a employer, i'd put him on top of my list of candidates over any of you if i wanted to hire someone..u have to realize in this world, charity is sh!t cuz if ur too nice in a business, u'll fail for sure...but the boss' comment was enough to make other people angry....if he didn't say that, this situation would of course be in favor of the boss...

I think you would be choosing poorly. Regardless of who is right in principle, in this instance a small businessman, operating a pizza delivery place in a small town, has publicly admitted, to a reporter no less, that he fired an employee substantially because she stopped to tend to two gunshot victims. That is not good for business, plain and simple. Even if, rhetorically speaking, Ms. McAulay was on the verge of being fired for repeated incompetence prior to the night in question, a savvy businessman would never have fired her - her efforts to help should at least have bought her another month or so to avoid the dreadful publicity this incident has garnered.

 

AnimeKnight

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: AnimeKnight
In February, she was driving with a friend in her pizza car when the friend's daughter called to say there had been a shooting on her street. McAulay drove her friend home, but as she pulled up one of two shooting victims called for help.


I dont' know both sides of stories but what is she doing driving with a friend during working hour? If she doesn't have a legit excuse for driving around with her friend then she deserve to be fired :|

because it's frigging pizza delivery. it's not high-action, intensive, brain-racking activity. you need someone to talk to.

you need to work on your work ethics.
 

Kenji4861

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awww geez.. part time at a pizza delivery... if she's such a "great person" as we all say, she should have no problems getting a better job.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
none of us know the full story. there is a great chance she was wasting time. i have problems with my employees sometimes too. Why did she have to act like an EMT? couldn't she have just called 911 and let them take care of the situation? its not like she has an ambulance or emergency medical equipment. Why was her friend with her while she was on the job? too many doubts on this one to make it a clear case against Mr. Boyd. With the facts presented, I'm with him.

Maybe her friend wanted to try get a job at the pizza place too, and was she showing her around a bit before her friend would apply for a job. Any maybe her friend didn't have a first aid training and she had. But then, wouldn't you rather die than be saved by a person who isn't a professional medic? Maybe the kid was totally freaking out, and did they fear the kid might get shot too. But then, that's not the right capitalistic spirit some of the people want to see here. Lives are cheap, work is what's important.
 

blazer1155

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People who are saying that there is no "problem" with having a Rider in the car with you note:

In Northern US, a Dominos is was sued by the driver and a passingers family . (Note: Driver had his own vehicle and Liability Insurance)

They were out on a delivery when they failed to notice the street light change colors and drove into a intersection and was hit by a Semi. The Passinger was killed instantly and the driver is crippled. The family of the passinger sued Dominos for a out of court settlement for the company not inforcing the "no ride rule". THe driver is still trying to sueing the company for neglagence (to help pay for medical costs and rehabilitation) for not stoping him from having a passinger in his car . He claims by having the passinger in the car, it distracted him and made him loose his concentration on driving. He claims he had never been warned about the rule, Though he signed a training form when he was hired that stated there was to be no passingers in personal vehicles on company hours. He also claims he saw him manager take friends with him on deliveries.

Even if he doesn't win the law suit, look at the money Dominos will put out to fight the law suit.

With the way courts are now days, I'll bet he wins.

The pizza owner was justified in Firing her. He just choose poor timing to do it. If my employees were stoping to help someone, I would be proud of them, but if they were screwing around and endangering their lives or others , I'd fire them without hessitation- I didn't work this hard to get my business going to loose it on the account of an employees stupidness.

Sorry if my typing is a mess (I've been up way too long :)
 

gwlam12

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it was right to fire her because she had a passenger. it was wrong to say she was fired because she wasnt paid to be an EMT.
 

AdamK47

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Ahhh... it looks like the source for this news story is coming from one of the big three networks. Expect to have a lot of important information missing to make the readers mind wander in the direction the author intended. In this case it worked.
 

kami333

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I'm going to register and leave a review, although I've never eaten there and probably never will even visit the town, I think the pizza there is horrible and the service will be slow, and there'll be a bug in my drink...

This is why I don't trust peer review sites.