Shutdown over?

[Puffnstuff]

Trump's has been very clear about the generalities of what he wants. But I believe he's also open to being flexible regarding the details.

He switches back and forth like AC current.😛

 

[Younigue]

Does doc even English?

I am hugging this comment! It made me giggle!

And no doc's language is NOT english, it's *Regressive. No further explanation required, kinda speaks for itself.

But I'll say more...
*Regressive ~ The regressive language was developed for the express purpose of raping a nation of decency and intelligence. It serves the wealthy and offers up the necks of the less fortunate to be stomped upon. It focuses on divisiveness and segregation based on weeding out all but the white "Christian"/"Conservative" man leaving the rest to serve (or get the fu*k out!), NOT BEG (well, the right kind of begging is alright). It will also provide to the speakers of said language, subservient, ignorant, attractive, young, complicit, white women. There are requirements to knowing/speaking the language, including an unwillingness to human, an unflinching commitment to hurt anyone who does not speak the language, an unwavering pride in their own skin color, a dark giddiness in feeling superiority for absolutely no reason, an unending fear of experiencing empathy or compassion and feeling compelled to support ugliness no matter how ugly it gets as long as it's Orange, looks like a turtle, peddles conspiracy and feeds it hate in every imaginable form.

Nailed it.
Ugh it's such an ugly language!

 

[Jhhnn]

So even though I've been calling for higher immigration quotas publicly on this board for years you want to say "I have no real interest in it"? The issue isn't that I'm secretly trying to call for higher quotas without meaning it, the problem is that you literally don't want existing undocumented folks to face any consequences whatsoever. That I would not and never would agree to.

Yes, retribution for the evildoers is obviously the important part. And all their nasty American citizen rugrats, too. Gotta have that. Can't live w/o the strife, cuz principles & shit. Keep pissin' into the wind.

If you've called for increased immigration quotas, I apologize for claiming otherwise. It's not the issue at hand. The Dreamers are the issue. They're Trump/ GOP hostages now. What will the Dems give up for the GOP to do the right thing, huh?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

He switches back and forth like AC current.😛

I think of him as being similar to Schrödinger's Cat...you don't know what you're going to get until it actually happens.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

What will the Dems give up for the GOP to do the right thing, huh?

It depends on how badly they want DACA imo. Recently I saw some Democrat saying he'd help build the wall if it meant DACA being passed.

Found it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/...l-support-border-wall-to-get-daca-deal-passed

 

[Jhhnn]

I think of him as being similar to Schrödinger's Cat...you don't know what you're going to get until it actually happens.

So, uhh, Strong Leader! obviously.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I think of him as being similar to Schrödinger's Cat...you don't know what you're going to get until it actually happens.

I can agree with that.

 

[bshole]

I think of him as being similar to Schrödinger's Cat...you don't know what you're going to get until it actually happens.

Isn't that sort of the basis of parallel universes? Like at the quantum level, if you observe something it takes a different path than if you don't observe it.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

So, uhh, Strong Leader! obviously.

A slight improvement over being completely feckless imo.

 

[Jhhnn]

It depends on how badly they want DACA imo. Recently I saw some Democrat saying he'd help build the wall if it meant DACA being passed.

Found it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/...l-support-border-wall-to-get-daca-deal-passed

Why should anybody have to give up anything for the GOP to do the right thing? Is the GOP truly devoid of morality at this point?

 

[interchange]

Hillary is racist based on a joke about CP time and a speech which used the word superpredators?

But we also have to have an organized effort against gangs. Just as in a previous generation we had an organized effort against the mob. We need to take these people on. They are often connected to big drug cartels, they are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called superpredators — no conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first, we have to bring them to heel.

You decide.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Why should anybody have to give up anything for the GOP to do the right thing? Is the GOP truly devoid of morality at this point?

I suppose when Trump releases his immigration framework next week we'll know for sure.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Why should anybody have to give up anything for the GOP to do the right thing? Is the GOP truly devoid of morality at this point?

Then don't give up anything...take the "moral" high ground and see what it gets you. This is complicated and compromise is needed for anything to actually get done. But if you want to frame yourself as the altruistic moral authority here and frame the GOP as evil, then by all means go for it. I'm sure you'll have no problem blaming the Republicans and telling the DACA folks with a straight face that you did everything you could to help them.

 

[zinfamous]

TIL on ATP&N that bigoted white people get to tell black people who are the true white racists. The answer will shock you!

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

TIL on ATP&N that bigoted white people get to tell black people who are the true white racists. The answer will shock you!

Racism doesn't exist in the black community...everybody knows this. /s

 

[zinfamous]

Racism doesn't exist in the black community...everybody knows this. /s

I neither think that nor suggested that in any way with my comment.

 

[Sunburn74]

I suppose when Trump releases his immigration framework next week we'll know for sure.

Did he release his healthcare plan yet? The one before the election he said he was putting final touches on?

 

[IronWing]

Maybe all politicians would be as wobbly as Trump if they weren't beholden to donors who keep them on the straight and narrow?

 

[Moonbeam]

I don't think it will happen as I don't think conservative Republicans want it.

I would be very happy to be wrong if Ryan changes his procedures and allows a vote on a bill that would easily pass, just not with solely Republican votes. He has never done this on any bill that I am aware of for his entire speakership though, (certainly none of consequence) so that does not appear likely to me.

Which is what makes him moral scum. He's been nothing but a sack of cowardly shit.

The problems would end if Republicans would do their job and impeach Trump like anybody with moral integrity would be bound to do. We have a gutter rat for president. We have a baboon with his butt pressed up against our window to the world. Be like us. Go go for American democracy and you to can have an incompetent sociopath for a leader.

 

[Moonbeam]

Trump's has been very clear about the generalities of what he wants. But I believe he's also open to being flexible regarding the details.

Yep, a white supremacist nation but he's willing to negotiate how we get there.

 

[Moonbeam]

I don't perceive you as being anything other than a decent and normal American...and I would hope that you feel the same way about me...even if we don't happen to agree from time to time. I can't imagine a truly reasonable person feeling any other way.

I believe it is white supremacy mainly in the house and a willingness in the senate to support it that is preventing a vote on the dreamer thingi. I believe on one side of the equation we have a group of despicable racial fanatics that will burn the country to the ground to keep the bill from a vote and a group on the left whose only option to counter the expulsion of the dreamers is to burn the country to the ground. I believe that the inevitability is that the democrats must cave. The filth and moral scum will win. And they will win because Republicans will not impeach Trump or repudiate the disease that lives within their midst. Any senator or congressman who has not changed party and advocating the removal of Trump is a monster. I'm not demonizing them for votes, or out of fear but because they are morally disgusting in every way that is real. To eject people from this country who grew up here because their parents brought them illegally is savagery. I think reasonable people feel like I do. So yes, I can't believe you would support their removal.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Did he release his healthcare plan yet? The one before the election he said he was putting final touches on?

Yeah yeah it was the Dust in the Wind Act of 2017.😀

 

[Svnla]

How do you put illegals at the back of the line w/o deporting them?

How about do not give them blanket amnesty/green card/citizenship/etc. before we are done with all of the LEGALS first? Gotta love how you keep saying "deporting" over and over again while ignore my statement about what would happen if you sneak in or overstay your visa at any sovereign nation. Any, it does not matter if it is a developed or developing country.

Would you be:

a) Allow to stay and become legal as you advocate so many times in this site just because you were able to stay below the radar and <insert more excuses>.

b) Kick out.

Same question to ALL posters that are advocating for ILLEGALS.

 

[SMOGZINN]

How about do not give them blanket amnesty/green card/citizenship/etc. before we are done with all of the LEGALS first? Gotta love how you keep saying "deporting" over and over again while ignore my statement about what would happen if you sneak in or overstay your visa at any sovereign nation. Any, it does not matter if it is a developed or developing country.

Would you be:

a) Allow to stay and become legal as you advocate so many times in this site just because you were able to stay below the radar and <insert more excuses>.

b) Kick out.

Same question to ALL posters that are advocating for ILLEGALS.

The United States of America is a sovereign nation, we have allowed them to stay and become legal before, so A is a valid option.

 

[Svnla]

The United States of America is a sovereign nation, we have allowed them to stay and become legal before, so A is a valid option.

We did a big one (with 3-4 million ILLEGALS IIRC) in the 80's with a promise of no more ILLEGALS and better border control and immigration enforcement. So now we are going to do another BIGGER one (at least 11 million ILLEGALS) but this time, it will work...because of reason? LOL.

Uh huh.

No country on Earth would do such a thing, let alone do it again with more ILLEGALS.