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BMdoobieW

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I don't have a fast car but my friend thinks he does. I was in the backseat when he did 135mph+ down the interstate for a min or two. He has a 92 Maxima SE with some small mods. I think he'll elaborate further...
 

dafatha00

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lol, GaryTcs
i'm sure when TuffGuy said he could beat mustangs and camaros, he meant the regular v-6 versions, not the mustang gt or the camaro z-28...
 

TuffGuy

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GaryTcs - what were you doing then? fyi, it does NOT have a huge wing, it is front wheel drive (like a ton of others, american, european, and asian). it's 0-60mph is 6.7s-6.9s stock, 6.5s with intake and exhaust(220hp). it is also a heck of a lot more efficient than a damn regal. i get 28+mph. and i did specify v6 mustangs and camaros, i never said the z28. that would be stupid and ignorant on my part. check my first post. adding boost will drop it into the low 5s, which is pretty good, especially from a v6. why don't you pull your head out of your ass and pay attention to what people write/say, instead of putting words in my mouth?

i'm not even gonna comment on your ricer coment. to make such a broad and generalized comment is not only closed-minded but stupid.

you can link all you want. times depend on the driver's reaction time, not the car. if you spend any time at the track you should know that.
 

GaryTcs

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Tuffguy,
Ok, my bad on the Camaro. I did check back (pulled my head out of my ass), and your first post did specify v6 camaro and mustangs. It also was the first post to say anything about a ricer. I guess that me taking your term to the rediculous level of including your car is what offended you. (which is even more valid since you've modified it)I am amused that you now want to talk about the economy of your car vs. the Buick. Good thing they don't come in a stick shift, huh? I suppose that I can concede that your reaction time is better than most Buick drivers. All times are always relative to the drivers skills. I assume the manufacturers use the best time they can get when marketing their "sports cars". Otherwise though, my point is valid. Your car, stock, is slower than a Buick Regal, assuming you are driving both.

Valhalla, I've always thought that the underrating of F-body horsepower had more to do with the shared drivetrain with the Corvette than with insurance. Chevrolet can't rate the camaro with the same hp as a $50k corvette. There isn't really a difference in top speed though, as chevrolet limits the camaro (via the prom) to around 130mph now. (A 50% increase in engine hp by adding a turbo is very generous. Especially if there is no camshaft or compression changes. I was trying to give a best picture scenario. He should expect around 35-50 hp gain.)
 

Soybomb

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GaryTcs: So I'm interested here in your opinion. In the mid-late 80s chrysler had the muscle car market covered with the Daytona Turbo Z. It wailed on the camaro and mustang. It is a 2.2L turbocharged 4 cyl from the factory. Is that rice to you? Mine has developed about 250hp and 275 ft/lbs torque through nothing but some boost/computer/exhaust changes. It turns the 1/4 in 13.8 and gets 35mpg on the highway? Does that make rice?





<< Caus drag racing doesn't require skills >>


Not familiar with the sport 'eh? It requires alot of skill actually.
 

iamwiz82

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using an automatic to drag race requires no skill. A manual, on the other hand, takes skill.

i prefer weaving through the back woods though. My girlfriends mother lives by a lake and it is quite a fun drive getting there.
 

StageLeft

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Well if you have a lot of torque and you mash down the pedal with an auto all you'll do is burn out, so you need to have a fine sense of just where its about to slip...of course an auto is still easier than a stick assuming all else is the same.
 

Static911

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i noticed everyone talks of a lot of facts (which is good). However, when it comes to racing, everything around us affect us. By STATS, a prelude SH isn't gonna beat a mustang GT. That is a no brainer. But, add a few stuff here and there to the prelude (which nowadays is soooooooo cheap to buy for good parts) and get a good jump off the line, and wham, the mustang gets beat, NOT SMOKED.

Stats you should compare are civic vs watever domestic car is good (4-cyl) SAturn?

i was gonna get a prelude and do the whole asian thing cuz i jus wanted to, but now, i'm into more imports that is all-around. Thinking bout the BMW 330ci and if i have another $15k, i'm gonna buy a spot for the 2002 M3 or the vette. Also, my uncle specially designs parts for cars (one of those special work shops in those warehouses, and he told me watever I want, he can mold and make). So i'm looking forward to meeting some of you guys on the street.

Will i win? um, probably not, even if I have a vette, cuz I don't even know how to drive stick. But i sure will have a good time while racing tho.

Static911
 

Static911

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o yeah, the best driving race i have (if it even counts) is when i took a brand spanking new SL-430 in my 99 LS-400. This guy kept lurching forward on the line. Also, my windows are illegal tint, so he couldn't c in. But anyhow, i was 2 feet behind line, and i was already lurching forward. By the green light, I alreayd was at 5mph. So i got a good jump on this guy. As you know, these cars are auto's, so i bascially floored it.

Took the guy to school. AFter that, a BMW 740i (outfitted wit AC) came up and took him to school (and me too) :)

well, thaz it. we took it up to 75mph while a sl 230, clk 430, BMW 540, were tailing us. It was a like a 6 car racing forumula down a three lane stretch and I WAS THE YOUNGEST person. The other folks were in their mid 50-60's.

this was on a sunny so-cal day on a sunday afternoon.

Static911
 

TuffGuy

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Regal vs Eclipse

Definition of &quot;Ricers&quot;

1) you need to change your definition of &quot;rice&quot;
2) my mods are all internal, performance related - by definition not a ricer. by your definition, any non-stock, modded engine is &quot;rice&quot;. that includes turboed, supercharged, ram-air, etc.
3) the regal costs ~$5000 more, and it's engine is 0.8L larger than the eclipse's. it only manages a measly 40 more horses.
4) an automatic eclipse gets about 1-mpg LESS than a stick, which is still a LOT better than a regal.
5) for the $5000 price difference between the eclipse and the regal, i can turbo and NOS the eclipse, which will drop its 0-60mph time to UNDER 5s.
6) i wouldn't be caught dead in a buick, unless it's a GNX.
 

gunf1ghter

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Static911

Did it ever occur to you that maybe the guy was'nt racing you? See, there's this little thing with brand new $50K cars called break-in. Most manufacturers recommend no red-lining or real hard revving for the first 1-5 thousand miles.

I always crack up when I have a brand new car with temp tags and a bunch of idiots want to race me. I guess that they've never owned a nice new car so they are clueless that when you spend $30K or more on a vehicle you want to break it in before you start to whoop up on their sorry asses.

 

StageLeft

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Thats true, gun, I know I'd hate to have to go easy with some clown beside me and I'm in a nice new car but I have to take it easy. If the guy in the mercedes was lurching though its probably safe to say he was trying to race :)
 

Soybomb

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<< using an automatic to drag race requires no skill. A manual, on the other hand, takes skill. >>



If you think shifting is the only skill in drag racing, you know nothing about the sport.....
 

Sonic625

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Wow, All this talk about racing and no mention of the T/A?!?! I dont know the numbers but Im sure it rates up there with the Camaros and Mustangs. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks,
Sonic625
 

iamwiz82

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soybomb, we are talking street racing here. Not drag racing where .13 reaction time is slow.
 

Soybomb

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Going fast in a straight line no matter where takes skill. You must have skill to know how to launch your car for the best hookup and speed, etc The most important skill required in either situation is learning from the past and setting your car up better. Most likely you're not going to have an idea setup from the factory who ever can tweak their setup and then pilot it in the unique way it needs to be drivel will win the race. Street, strip, moon, it applies the same.
 

Soybomb

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Going fast in a straight line no matter where takes skill. You must have skill to know how to launch your car for the best hookup and speed, etc The most important skill required in either situation is learning from the past and setting your car up better. Most likely you're not going to have an idea setup from the factory who ever can tweak their setup and then pilot it in the unique way it needs to be drivel will win the race. Street, strip, moon, it applies the same.
 

Static911

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well, he did rev the engine...um...if you live in my neighborhood...

um...i don't think he was &quot;breaking&quot; the engine in...jus by the way he took off the line and the next light

Static911
 

Static911

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well, he did rev the engine...um...if you live in my neighborhood...

um...i don't think he was &quot;breaking&quot; the engine in...jus by the way he took off the line and the next light

Static911