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Show me the money!

techs

techs

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Show me the money!
This will be the battlecry of the super delegates if the primaries end up split (one candidate has more delegates and one has more votes)
So who has more money?
Actually its Clinton. By a mile.
Obamas money is coming from the internet and small donators and first time donators.
Clintons money is more from traditional Democrat donors, certain businesses, labor unions, etc.
Obama has no control and really can't steer money into the political campaigns of the super delegates, most of whom hold political office and need campaign money.
Clinton has a large reservoirs of backers who can support her by donating to the political campaigns of the super delegates(most of Clintons large donators are maxed out giving to her, but can give lots to other candidates).
While I support Clinton, I don't support the whole idea of legally buying super delegate votes, but that the way it is.
FYI anyone who has followed the career of Howard Dean, as I do here in Vermont, knows this. Dean was chosen as Democratic Party chairman mostly in the belief he could bring a lot of new money to dem candidates thru his internet fund raising which proved so successful in his failed Presidential campaing. Yet, Dean has proven incapable of raising almost any money thru the new donators his campaign attracted. Seems internet donators are completely independent.
Which is why Dean will be gone shortly.
 
If the supers choose to deny the will of the Dem party votes, it will create a splintering effect.
 
Originally posted by: techs
Show me the money!
This will be the battlecry of the super delegates if the primaries end up split (one candidate has more delegates and one has more votes)
So who has more money?
Actually its Clinton. By a mile.
Obamas money is coming from the internet and small donators and first time donators.
Clintons money is more from traditional Democrat donors, certain businesses, labor unions, etc.
Obama has no control and really can't steer money into the political campaigns of the super delegates, most of whom hold political office and need campaign money.
Clinton has a large reservoirs of backers who can support her by donating to the political campaigns of the super delegates(most of Clintons large donators are maxed out giving to her, but can give lots to other candidates).
While I support Clinton, I don't support the whole idea of legally buying super delegate votes, but that the way it is.
FYI anyone who has followed the career of Howard Dean, as I do here in Vermont, knows this. Dean was chosen as Democratic Party chairman mostly in the belief he could bring a lot of new money to dem candidates thru his internet fund raising which proved so successful in his failed Presidential campaing. Yet, Dean has proven incapable of raising almost any money thru the new donators his campaign attracted. Seems internet donators are completely independent.
Which is why Dean will be gone shortly.
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Go ahead Dems. Kill the democratic party... As Rob Schnieder says "You can do it!".
 
Wow techs!

Great reason to think HRC can/should win: More corp donations overriding the will of the voters.

Isn't that why so many people are angry now?

That's a horrible thing to advertise, IMO.

Fern

 
Originally posted by: Fern
Wow techs!

Great reason to think HRC can/should win: More corp donations overriding the will of the voters.

Isn't that why so many people are angry now?

That's a horrible thing to advertise, IMO.

Fern
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No, not everyone is angry.

See, Democrats are only angry when Republicans do it. However, if a Democrat does it thats ok to the Democrats.
Course it sure rubs the Republicans the wrong way when a Democrat does it.....

Funny how that works isnt it?
 
Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
How the fuck do we live in a democracy with this stupid delegates bullshit.
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<----- master over the obvious

we don't live in a democracy, we live in a republic. One where are forefathers didn't trust the unwashed masses. Besides primaries aren't governmental elections. They are private organizations who are determining who they are going to run in governmental elections.
 
Techs:

Stop it. Please. You sound like a desperate partisan, and the campaign of Hillary Clinton of all people just doesn't warrant such an emotional investment. I hope Obama wins but would be content with Hillary - you seem to take the view that the world will come to an end if she isn't nominated. It's just ridiculous, and frankly at this point I give her at best a 30% chance. Move on (no pun intended!) and stop making dozens of threads on this topic.
 
..obama is the marxist messiah for the godless mindless millions. He's a political pied piper pipe dream for the secular progressive kooks. go ahead. follow him over the cliff.
 
Originally posted by: IGBT
..obama is the marxist messiah for the godless mindless millions. He's a political pied piper pipe dream for the secular progressive kooks. go ahead. follow him over the cliff.
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Psst please do, so the Republicans can take back power in 2012....
 
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: IGBT
..obama is the marxist messiah for the godless mindless millions. He's a political pied piper pipe dream for the secular progressive kooks. go ahead. follow him over the cliff.
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Psst please do, so the Republicans can take back power in 2012....
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..I'm still a reg.democrat and would like to see a genuine democrat not a KOOK get elected. problem is..the democrat party has been hijacked by KOOKS. the GOP has been a huge disapointment as well.

 
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Techs:

Stop it. Please. You sound like a desperate partisan, and the campaign of Hillary Clinton of all people just doesn't warrant such an emotional investment. I hope Obama wins but would be content with Hillary - you seem to take the view that the world will come to an end if she isn't nominated. It's just ridiculous, and frankly at this point I give her at best a 30% chance. Move on (no pun intended!) and stop making dozens of threads on this topic.
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I'm still giving her a 50% chance. But it's not looking good.

Otherwise, QFT. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: IGBT
..obama is the marxist messiah for the godless mindless millions. He's a political pied piper pipe dream for the secular progressive kooks. go ahead. follow him over the cliff.
Click to expand...

Psst please do, so the Republicans can take back power in 2012....
Click to expand...


..I'm still a reg.democrat and would like to see a genuine democrat not a KOOK get elected. problem is..the democrat party has been hijacked by KOOKS. the GOP has been a huge disapointment as well.
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Obama is a kook?

Obama is an unabashed liberal with a populist message. Hes not a kook. Him and his supporters may be a bit delusional to some extent but not kooks.

Personally, I am an anybody but Clinton.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Techs:

Stop it. Please. You sound like a desperate partisan, and the campaign of Hillary Clinton of all people just doesn't warrant such an emotional investment. I hope Obama wins but would be content with Hillary - you seem to take the view that the world will come to an end if she isn't nominated. It's just ridiculous, and frankly at this point I give her at best a 30% chance. Move on (no pun intended!) and stop making dozens of threads on this topic.
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I'm still giving her a 50% chance. But it's not looking good.

Otherwise, QFT. :thumbsup:
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Damnit... If you're giving her that much of a chance I'm still worried. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: Tab
Damnit... If you're giving her that much of a chance I'm still worried. 🙁
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If there's one thing I've learned in politics, it is never count a Clinton out. Until the KO is complete.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster

I'm still giving her a 50% chance. But it's not looking good.

Otherwise, QFT. :thumbsup:
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Funny, because only a matter of days ago you were proclaiming it to be all over, in your euphoria after his recent primary wins. Guess you've come back down to reality now, eh? Only 50% chance Obama will win? :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: M0RPH
Funny, because only a matter of days ago you were proclaiming it to be all over, in your euphoria after his recent primary wins. Guess you've come back down to reality now, eh? Only 50% chance Obama will win? :laugh:
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I'm sticking with the 50% figure. For now.

Then again, after Tuesday, I may adjust that. :laugh:
 
Elections like this boil down to not which puppet you wish to vote for, but rather which puppetmaster. Whose billionaire do you like more..
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Fern
Wow techs!

Great reason to think HRC can/should win: More corp donations overriding the will of the voters.

Isn't that why so many people are angry now?

That's a horrible thing to advertise, IMO.

Fern
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No, not everyone is angry.

See, Democrats are only angry when Republicans do it. However, if a Democrat does it thats ok to the Democrats.
Course it sure rubs the Republicans the wrong way when a Democrat does it.....

Funny how that works isnt it?
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Uh, no.

If the super delegates override the votes of the "little guy", look for a LOT of Democrats to stay home on election day. It will basically give the GOP a sure win in November.
 
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: IGBT
..obama is the marxist messiah for the godless mindless millions. He's a political pied piper pipe dream for the secular progressive kooks. go ahead. follow him over the cliff.
Click to expand...

Psst please do, so the Republicans can take back power in 2012....
Click to expand...


..I'm still a reg.democrat and would like to see a genuine democrat not a KOOK get elected. problem is..the democrat party has been hijacked by KOOKS. the GOP has been a huge disapointment as well.
Click to expand...

Obama is a kook?

Obama is an unabashed liberal with a populist message. Hes not a kook. Him and his supporters may be a bit delusional to some extent but not kooks.

Personally, I am an anybody but Clinton.
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..I hope he gets elected. experience is a good teacher.

 
Do you actually read and think thru these ideas before you write them? HRC is going to win because she is going to buy off all the supers with corporate money (which she is the master of and Obama only has the money of the people)?

Certainly sounds like a winning strategy for Nov and something to be proud of. Sure you are not working for McCain?
 
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