Should weapons of mass murder be so easily available?

DCal430

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Weapons of mass murder like those use in the Aurora, Sandy Hook, and Arizona shooting can be purchased with ease over the internet, at gun sales, and in person private sales. No background check is needed and the killing machines can be had the same day.

Do you support doing more to prevent criminals from getting these weapons of mass death and destruction?
 

nextJin

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Do I support more legislation that targets mental illness? Yes
Do I support more legislation that targets the 2nd amendment? No
Do I support more legislation that targets background checks and the closing of the gun show loop hole? Yes
 

DCal430

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What about guns that hold dozens if not hundreds of rounds, and shoot tens of bullets per second, should these be banned.
 

MagickMan

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What about guns that hold dozens if not hundreds of rounds, and shoot tens of bullets per second, should these be banned.

Such guns aren't readily available and are traced and tracked, to get a pre-ban fully-auto weapon you must pay through the nose and jump through a lot of hoops. If you'd bother looking, you'd see that automatic weapons weren't used in any of these killings.
 

monovillage

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Another yawn worthy troll post by DCal. At least try to link some interesting information instead of just being your usual self.
 

jackschmittusa

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DCal430

When you learn a little more about firearms, you might be able to contribute to a meaningful discussion. Until then, your input is pretty useless.

Your "shoot tens of bullets per second" must be something you pulled out of your ass. It has no basis in reality.

"Weapons of mass murder" is a made up term designed to incite. A semi auto rifle with a small caliber round is a poor candidate for such a moniker. You may argue against very large capacity magazines and their practicality for common uses for some weapons but they are a separate issue from the rifles (even shotguns) themselves.

How are the evil weapons you fear (apparently like the Bushmaster) any different than a Mini14? The Mini14 has been around for decades, same magazine fed, semi auto, same .223 round, looks pretty tame, has a reputation as an excellent varmint rifle (even deer in relatively open terrain), and gained immediate popularity with farmers upon its introduction.

Does buying accessories for it like: a flash hider, a bayonet lug, a collapsible stock, a bi-pod, a scope magically turn it into a weapon of mass murder? Do you need to change out the factory 10 round mags ( which I personally know can be changed out quite rapidly with minimal practice - used to own one) to 30 round ones to do it?

Have any answers to my questions?
 

Anarchist420

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Anyway, it is not the job of the State to protect people from the mentally ill. Your protection is your own responsibility.

There are non-mentally ill people who are just as dangerous and those who aren't mentally ill will probably be the most likely to blow up things and cause more damage because they possess more intelligence.
 

Cuda1447

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Weapons of mass murder like those use in the Aurora, Sandy Hook, and Arizona shooting can be purchased with ease over the internet, at gun sales, and in person private sales. No background check is needed and the killing machines can be had the same day.

Do you support doing more to prevent criminals from getting these weapons of mass death and destruction?

Isn't the problem that they are not criminals when they purchase them?
 

Doppel

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What about guns that hold dozens if not hundreds of rounds, and shoot tens of bullets per second, should these be banned.
What about laser machine guns that fire lasers and hold thousands of miniature nuclear missiles also? Should they be banned?

Your ignorance of guns remains a tenet here. You've learned nothing, bathing in the warm bath of your ignorance, as content as any baby at the teat.
 

Fenixgoon

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Cars, pools, fatty foods, cancer, and doctors/hospitals haven't been made illegal yet, so you tell me.

33,000 vehicle deaths per year. I would argue most are preventable on account of improved driver training.

3500 accidental drownings per year, IIRC. certainly more than the number of people killed in mass shootings (88 if I'm not mistaken).

heart disease - #1 killer of americans

Cancer...#2 killer of Americans?

10,000+ deaths due to doctor error, preventable infection, etc while at the hospital.


So, why are you so eager to start stripping rights away from law-abiding citizens??
 

boomerang

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Weapons of mass murder like those use in the Aurora, Sandy Hook, and Arizona shooting can be purchased with ease over the internet, at gun sales, and in person private sales. No background check is needed and the killing machines can be had the same day.

Do you support doing more to prevent criminals from getting these weapons of mass death and destruction?
I feel like you're harassing all of us here and it's making me uncomfortable. I'm trying to decide if I'm going to report your post. If you'd like to argue your case, I'll give you an hour. That seems fair.
 

boomerang

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So, why are you so eager to start stripping rights away from law-abiding citizens??
There is a theory out there that those that fear firearms the most are actually fearful that one day they may take up arms against others or even themselves. If they are not available to anyone, then their potential threat is neutralized.

Anyone in their right mind knows that what they desire, nobody being armed, is unattainable. Extrapolate from there.
 

Gerle

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What about guns that hold dozens if not hundreds of rounds
None exist as far as I know, unless you are talking about some kind of cannon. Magazines on the other hand, or belts, could do what you are talking about.
 

Sulaco

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I think they should be banned completely, in North Korea that is.

Don't you know?? Have you not read his other posts? North Korea is a paradise! A great society just bullied and harassed for no reason by the West.


(Yes. He IS that retarded)
 

gingermeggs

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Such guns aren't readily available and are traced and tracked, to get a pre-ban fully-auto weapon you must pay through the nose and jump through a lot of hoops. If you'd bother looking, you'd see that automatic weapons weren't used in any of these killings.

And a semi-Auto would be more accurate and effective- ar15 or m16.

Really... its a question of whether or not civilians should have access to full blown modern military weapons- times have changed dramatically from the writing of your ol'constitution.

Your being enslaved financially now by people within who buy your "democracy". People like GW and rockerfellas. who are old money and power working under the stars n stripes, sending your children to die and prostitute themselves in a system with little chance of busting free. They lie to you every day, but still you say fuck all......it ok you got your guns to clean!!!

- I still haven't seen you "good old boys" break your arms and protect your house and home from being stolen by bankers, your kids on drugs, alcohol and porno......

In this case what is the good achieved by the second amendment(or even the first, when you won't say what you should). When are you guys aren't doing anything constructive to retaliate to the corporatocracy you currently live under, shows how impotent and egotistical your culture really is.........Like throwing a monkey a banana every now and then, but mostly they live on peanuts!

Look at that!

When will you look at the data of crime and metal health and see it's related directly to socioeconomic conditions, that's why they go nuts, because they have no hope for a better future...but fuck you jack I am ok!!!!(thats how your society works!).

How do you expect people to lead a happy, healthy life and be law abiding on $8/hr?????
 
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gingermeggs

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Cars, pools, fatty foods, cancer, and doctors/hospitals haven't been made illegal yet, so you tell me.

33,000 vehicle deaths per year. I would argue most are preventable on account of improved driver training.

3500 accidental drownings per year, IIRC. certainly more than the number of people killed in mass shootings (88 if I'm not mistaken).

heart disease - #1 killer of americans

Cancer...#2 killer of Americans?

10,000+ deaths due to doctor error, preventable infection, etc while at the hospital.


So, why are you so eager to start stripping rights away from law-abiding citizens??

Those things all provide great media cover for your "elite" to steal, cheat and kill unhampered, while you idiots bicker about stuff like abortion and gay marriage.....what a bunch of numskulls....little hope isn't there, so this not to end in a mess- how many nukes does your country have???? scary lunatics with nukes............
 

gingermeggs

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I truly hope you feel better now. If only the rest of the world were as smart as you and did things as you wish, how truly happy you could be.

Progtards live everywhere folks!

yeah lets listen to you instead....everything will be great when you get your free market working!!! fool

Hope you dont have any at all!
 

Sulaco

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Those things all provide great media cover for your "elite" to steal, cheat and kill unhampered, while you idiots bicker about stuff like abortion and gay marriage.....what a bunch of numskulls....little hope isn't there, so this not to end in a mess- how many nukes does your country have???? scary lunatics with nukes............

Just curious, but where exactly are you from? And is English your first language?