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Should their be a public registry of Gun Owners?

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corwin said:
Don't be hatin', I own 2 actually and they both shoot great:colbert:
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I've just heard horror stories of their revolvers (with photos that showed machining marks on the cylinder) that had bad timings and was terrible in lock up. Glad yours work well, they are a cheap alternative then. Which gun is that?
 
xBiffx said:
Oh really?

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Is that a gun with a knife attached, or a knife with a gun attached?
 
RampantAndroid said:
I've just heard horror stories of their revolvers (with photos that showed machining marks on the cylinder) that had bad timings and was terrible in lock up. Glad yours work well, they are a cheap alternative then. Which gun is that?
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That's a 24/7 Tactical w/5" barrell, mine is a 9mm but they make them in .45 and I think .40 as well...they are very reasonably priced, got mine for under $400...pretty sure those stories on their revolvers are old news, from everything I've read/seen lately they make some really nice guns now, their 1911 especially
 
corwin said:
That's a 24/7 Tactical w/5" barrell, mine is a 9mm but they make them in .45 and I think .40 as well...they are very reasonably priced, got mine for under $400...pretty sure those stories on their revolvers are old news, from everything I've read/seen lately they make some really nice guns now, their 1911 especially
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My buddy owns one in .40 that I have ran a few hundred rounds through at the range and all in all it is a good weapon. I do absolutely despise the trigger pull though but thats a personal preference.
 
Darwin333 said:
My buddy owns one in .40 that I have ran a few hundred rounds through at the range and all in all it is a good weapon. I do absolutely despise the trigger pull though but thats a personal preference.
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Plastic guns all have bad pulls. I reworked the trigger on my Glock to make it bearable (smoother pull, you don't notice the safety as much - you don't pull a long distance at 1lb, then have a hard 5lb break. The break is 3lb. No plastic gun will match a 1911's tuned trigger pull. And a 1911 cannot beat the feel of a revolver firing in SA. I want to rework my revolvers' DA pull though to require less effort.)

The gun I want is a 1911 SC from S&W in the 4.25" frame with scandium. That thing is COMFY. But expensive.
 
Patranus said:
Ok, lets create a database of which homes to rob.
Sounds like a great idea.
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This will probably be the only time I agree with Patranus. Guns are a very popular item to steal from a person's home. Making people register on a public registry that they own a easily transported, valuable item is kinda dumb. And it's not like people won't rob someone who's a gun owner, they'll case a neighborhood and break in when most people aren't home (such as during a work day). I remember reading a statistic a long time ago (this is totally paraphrased as I don't remember the exact statistic) that something like 70% of the guns which are used in crimes and considered illegal were guns stolen from legal owners.
 
thraashman said:
This will probably be the only time I agree with Patranus. Guns are a very popular item to steal from a person's home. Making people register on a public registry that they own a easily transported, valuable item is kinda dumb. And it's not like people won't rob someone who's a gun owner, they'll case a neighborhood and break in when most people aren't home (such as during a work day). I remember reading a statistic a long time ago (this is totally paraphrased as I don't remember the exact statistic) that something like 70% of the guns which are used in crimes and considered illegal were guns stolen from legal owners.
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And that statistic is the basis for TWO reasons not to do this, and why the OP is just being plain ignorant:

As you mentioned, theft.
And it's also a reason he's just being paranoid. Don't like your neighbors owning guns? Too bad. Move to the UK.
 
cybrsage said:
Not according to the legal definition:


http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/arms
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No, actually I was speaking of the legal definition at the time of writing the 2nd. Read the definition you linked. "Any thing that a man wears for his defence, or takes in his hands, or uses in his anger, to cast at, or strike at another." In other words, arms, not ordinance. You don't wear or take in your hands a howitzer, a nuke, etc. Here's a pretty good read on the subject: http://brainshavings.com/what-the-2nd-amendment-means-by-arms-iii.html
 
Darwin333 said:
There were several incidents during the aftermath of Katrina in which groups of bad guys, and one incident with a single bad guy, with obvious intent to cause harm and steal property (a lot of which was vital for survival and irreplaceable at the time) changed their minds once they saw/heard my shotgun.

A police officer told us that a group of people exactly matching our description killed a man and his wife a dozen blocks away or so. They weren't armed. Another poor bastard was forced to watch as his wife was raped by 3 men but at least they let them live. They weren't armed either.


This was a very common situation during that time. Thugs don't want to get into a shootout anymore than normal people do because they don't generally want to die anymore than normal people do. They are almost never willing to knowingly get into a gunfight if for no other reason than there are tons of potential targets out there that don't have the means to defend themselves. During that time, being visibly armed (preferably with a long gun because it is visible from a larger distance) almost guaranteed that you did not get messed with by the thugs. I haven't heard a single story about neighborhoods that worked together to put armed men at the entrances being looted or the people in those neighborhoods being harmed by criminals. Lots and lots of stories of murder, rape, looting, stealing food/water/gas (again, irreplaceable at the time), etc... in houses/neighborhoods/people that were not armed.

So again, tell me exactly how my gun is "dangerous" when it has done nothing but save property and life without EVER being fired at another human being.
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Hey dont bring logic into this 🙂

People never seem to understand the simple point that guns DO NOT kill people. People kill people. Even if guns were all destroyed today people would still kill people with other means, and for those who say there would be less killings due to there not being guns are retarded. The most bloody part of human history was long before guns ever came to be.
 
thraashman said:
This will probably be the only time I agree with Patranus. Guns are a very popular item to steal from a person's home. Making people register on a public registry that they own a easily transported, valuable item is kinda dumb. And it's not like people won't rob someone who's a gun owner, they'll case a neighborhood and break in when most people aren't home (such as during a work day). I remember reading a statistic a long time ago (this is totally paraphrased as I don't remember the exact statistic) that something like 70% of the guns which are used in crimes and considered illegal were guns stolen from legal owners.
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How about a home invasion for assault, rape, and murder? That means an occupied house, and most criminals are interested in their own continued survival - thus, avoid the houses with guns and/or dogs.
 
HAL9000 said:
Disagree, people with guns are more dangerous than people without.
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care to qualify that statement with facts? like criminals? yea sure they have guns as offensive weapons to kill somebody over a rock of crack

or the typical law abiding citizen who has a gun for defense (horrible thought for a limey i know but get over it) who will use it to defend him/herself from criminals?
 
CPA said:
Prove it, you asshat.
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OK, I'll go get one guy with an AK47 and one guy with a knife, they will both be the same height, same age, same weight, same build, they will stand 10ft apart and they have to kill each other. The winner is the most dangerous, you asshat.
 
HAL9000 said:
OK, I'll go get one guy with an AK47 and one guy with a knife, they will both be the same height, same age, same weight, same build, they will stand 10ft apart and they have to kill each other. The winner is the most dangerous, you asshat.
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:thumbsup;
 
HAL9000 said:
OK, I'll go get one guy with an AK47 and one guy with a knife, they will both be the same height, same age, same weight, same build, they will stand 10ft apart and they have to kill each other. The winner is the most dangerous, you asshat.
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Ahh, someone who never heard of the 21 foot rule. The guy with the knife has a significant chance of winning. Try again.
 
DCal430 said:
Like we have a sex offender registry, what about a gun owner one. Anyone who owns a gun is registred along with their name and address. This way people can the area can know who does and doesn't own a gun, and who is a potential danger to the community. Seems fair enough, own a gun get on a public database.

I am sure I am not the only one who would like to know if any of my neighbors are harboring a gun or two or more.
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No public registry!!
You are living in fear of what???
 
HAL9000 said:
Disagree, people with guns are more dangerous than people without.
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People with guns have far more ability to put an end to violence and save human lives than those without. Then there is the rape scenario, but IIRC you don't care if some gal loses her maidenhead by force as long as no one was shot!
 
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