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Should the (US) government ban cigarettes altogether?

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Should the US ban smokes?

  • Yes

  • No

  • I have no opinion

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HAL9000 said:
This is the type of thing that bothers me, it's like saying "Who am I to tell someone not to fire a gun in public" If I don't like it, I should move out of the firing line.

It's not the people around that should conform to someones hobby, it's the person with the hobby that should conform to everyone else's needs. Apologies on how much this mirrors your post.
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It's a shame that there is no credible data which shows that second hand smoke truly is dangerous to the casual passerby.

The hilarious thing, is that most of the koolaid drinkers such as yourself have managed to convince themselves that 2nd hand smoke is somehow more dangerous than the smoke pulled in by the smoker.

funny stuff.

Whatever we do, we should move towards legislating off of knee jerk reactions and fraudulent scientific claims, toss out logic and plausibility, and vote only from our hearts. that is always a great policy.
 
bfdd said:
As a regular smoker, while I know this stuff I will tell anyone smoking anything is bad for them. If you smoke a lot you will get ash residue in your lungs. You cough it up and it looks like black chucks of tar. Smoke out of bongs or pipes a lot and you will get a build up. It's not pretty.
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this is why you should vaporize yourself to greater health!

🙂
 
Smokers shouldn't vote in this poll since in all likelihood their answer will be determined by their addiction, not by their true conscience.
 
The only thing that amazes me is the willingness of people to give up their liberties. You may not smoke but someday someone will want to ban something you like or do then what are you going to do?

I work with a guy who is a recovering alcoholic and ex-smoker who see nothing wrong with banning cigarettes and maybe even alcohol. I pointed out one day that what if they tried to ban fishing, an activity he really enjoys. Said it would never happen and he may be right but he sure is up in arms over an environmental groups petition to the EPA to ban lead fishing weights under the toxic substance act. He's a little more careful now about what he thinks should be banned. Maybe the people that are so willing to tell others what they should do should also think about how they would feel if it happened to them. Just a thought.
 
zinfamous said:
It's a shame that there is no credible data which shows that second hand smoke truly is dangerous to the casual passerby.
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I use to say this a lot when I was younger and smoked. Then I realized how freaking hard it is to try to figure out a controlled experiment that wouldn't be scrutinized by the scientific community, or policy makers alike.

You figure in the last few decades how humans advanced in discovering environmental harmful substances which includes Mercury (the stuff kids use to play with) and the lead in paint. Saved companies a ton of money to use, and refused to believe the chems didn't do any harm to the bloody end.

Just be careful of how you view the scientific method.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle

All scientific knowledge is tentative and provisional, and nothing is final. There is no such thing as final proven knowledge in science.
 
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zinfamous said:
It's a shame that there is no credible data which shows that second hand smoke truly is dangerous to the casual passerby.

The hilarious thing, is that most of the koolaid drinkers such as yourself have managed to convince themselves that 2nd hand smoke is somehow more dangerous than the smoke pulled in by the smoker.

funny stuff.

Whatever we do, we should move towards legislating off of knee jerk reactions and fraudulent scientific claims, toss out logic and plausibility, and vote only from our hearts. that is always a great policy.
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Fair enough, let me change my analogy to someone who enjoys throwing paint as they walk along "get in the way and you might get paint on you" it's his problem not ours.
 
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