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Should Ron Paul drop out?

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^ are you on drugs or have you been drinking due to the ass kicking Ron took today??

He got 3% of the vote!!!!!!!! 3% !!!!!!! Highly unlikely that he would make any difference at all in the fall elections with that type of return.
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
It is a damn shame that the Democrats aren't seeing the gift that Ron Paul is handing them.

He is exposing to a lot of people the ills of the Republican party. But much more than that, if he runs as a 3rd party candidate he will all but hand the Democrats the election.

What more could the Democrats ask for? Hell, you guys couldn't beat Bush the second time around. Think about that. It's not like the Democrats are doing well at the plate, and here comes a guy who could literally hand you all an election in 2008. And you want him to drop out now? Jesus, you Democrats aren't very bright.

And to those who are bad-mouthing Paul, let me remind you that it has been all of us who have been blasting Republicans for overspending, it has been all of us who have have blasted the Bush admin for invading Iraq, it has been all of us who have blasted away at the Patriot Act, and it has been all of us who have been disgusted at the aggressiveness toward Iran.

He has been right there with us, fighting his own party even.

He is also the ONLY candidate who has the guts to talk about the failures of the war on drugs.

So, some of his ideas seem loony. So what? I think UHC is loony. I think being in Iraq for 100 years is loony. I think a 23% national sales tax is loony. I think ignoring a 9 trillion dollar deficit is loony.

The guy deserves some respect, a lot more than many of you give him.

And you Democrats that think he should drop out now aren't loony, you're just plain dumb.
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
^ are you on drugs or have you been drinking due to the ass kicking Ron took today??

He got 3% of the vote!!!!!!!! 3% !!!!!!! Highly unlikely that he would make any difference at all in the fall elections with that type of return.
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If he runs as a 3rd party, Paul will snag enough votes from the Republicans to guarantee the Democrat wins. He wouldn't need that many.

If that pisses you off, too bad. Maybe the Republicans would be ok if they would have stuck with their values. Instead they've fallen head-over-heels in love with a bunch of whacked-out Anti-American neo-conservatives.
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
It is a damn shame that the Democrats aren't seeing the gift that Ron Paul is handing them.

He is exposing to a lot of people the ills of the Republican party. But much more than that, if he runs as a 3rd party candidate he will all but hand the Democrats the election.

What more could the Democrats ask for? Hell, you guys couldn't beat Bush the second time around. Think about that. It's not like the Democrats are doing well at the plate, and here comes a guy who could literally hand you all an election in 2008. And you want him to drop out now? Jesus, you Democrats aren't very bright.

And to those who are bad-mouthing Paul, let me remind you that it has been all of us who have been blasting Republicans for overspending, it has been all of us who have have blasted the Bush admin for invading Iraq, it has been all of us who have blasted away at the Patriot Act, and it has been all of us who have been disgusted at the aggressiveness toward Iran.

He has been right there with us, fighting his own party even.

He is also the ONLY candidate who has the guts to talk about the failures of the war on drugs.

So, some of his ideas seem loony. So what? I think UHC is loony. I think being in Iraq for 100 years is loony. I think a 23% national sales tax is loony. I think ignoring a 9 trillion dollar deficit is loony.

The guy deserves some respect, a lot more than many of you give him.

And you Democrats that think he should drop out now aren't loony, you're just plain dumb.
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I don't want Paul to drop out, I wanted an Obama Paul ticket, but I don't think it's going to happen. Also, I support all the stuff he supports that you mentioned, but don't know about the stuff people say is crazy. I couldn't support him, for example, if he's right about all that stuff you mentioned and thinks black people should be slaves, just to pull something our of my, well, imagination. A stopped clock is right twice a day.
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
^ are you on drugs or have you been drinking due to the ass kicking Ron took today??

He got 3% of the vote!!!!!!!! 3% !!!!!!! Highly unlikely that he would make any difference at all in the fall elections with that type of return.
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If he runs as a 3rd party, Paul will snag enough votes from the Republicans to guarantee the Democrat wins. He wouldn't need that many.

If that pisses you off, too bad. Maybe the Republicans would be ok if they would have stuck with their values. Instead they've fallen head-over-heels in love with a bunch of whacked-out Anti-American neo-conservatives.
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So you'd rather hand the election to your sworn opposition? interesting...

Then again, the only shame I'm seeing is the number of twisted SOBs who still support the Clinton crime family.

RP should drop out just before the convention. He's worth listening to until then...
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: bamacre
It is a damn shame that the Democrats aren't seeing the gift that Ron Paul is handing them.

He is exposing to a lot of people the ills of the Republican party. But much more than that, if he runs as a 3rd party candidate he will all but hand the Democrats the election.

What more could the Democrats ask for? Hell, you guys couldn't beat Bush the second time around. Think about that. It's not like the Democrats are doing well at the plate, and here comes a guy who could literally hand you all an election in 2008. And you want him to drop out now? Jesus, you Democrats aren't very bright.

And to those who are bad-mouthing Paul, let me remind you that it has been all of us who have been blasting Republicans for overspending, it has been all of us who have have blasted the Bush admin for invading Iraq, it has been all of us who have blasted away at the Patriot Act, and it has been all of us who have been disgusted at the aggressiveness toward Iran.

He has been right there with us, fighting his own party even.

He is also the ONLY candidate who has the guts to talk about the failures of the war on drugs.

So, some of his ideas seem loony. So what? I think UHC is loony. I think being in Iraq for 100 years is loony. I think a 23% national sales tax is loony. I think ignoring a 9 trillion dollar deficit is loony.

The guy deserves some respect, a lot more than many of you give him.

And you Democrats that think he should drop out now aren't loony, you're just plain dumb.
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I don't want Paul to drop out, I wanted an Obama Paul ticket, but I don't think it's going to happen. Also, I support all the stuff he supports that you mentioned, but don't know about the stuff people say is crazy. I couldn't support him, for example, if he's right about all that stuff you mentioned and thinks black people should be slaves, just to pull something our of my, well, imagination. A stopped clock is right twice a day.
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Black people as slaves?

Please, Moonbeam, you know that's a bad analogy. I hope anyway.

Paul has stood up for the rights of ALL Americans more so than any other candidate.
 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
^ are you on drugs or have you been drinking due to the ass kicking Ron took today??

He got 3% of the vote!!!!!!!! 3% !!!!!!! Highly unlikely that he would make any difference at all in the fall elections with that type of return.
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If he runs as a 3rd party, Paul will snag enough votes from the Republicans to guarantee the Democrat wins. He wouldn't need that many.

If that pisses you off, too bad. Maybe the Republicans would be ok if they would have stuck with their values. Instead they've fallen head-over-heels in love with a bunch of whacked-out Anti-American neo-conservatives.
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So you'd rather hand the election to your sworn opposition? interesting...

Then again, the only shame I'm seeing is the number of twisted SOBs who still support the Clinton crime family.

RP should drop out just before the convention. He's worth listening to until then...
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If it takes [deleted] Hillary Clinton winning an election to make the Republicans see that they have royally fucked up, then so be it.

I will continue to refuse giving support to the Republican party as long as they are over-run by anti-American neo-conservatives.
 
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
He won't pull out until the end, if he ever does. He feels (perhaps legitimately) that he has a point to prove. He never had any chance anyway - his run wasn't seriously about becoming President, was it?
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whose run??? For what? President?
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Do you speak English? What the hell is your problem?
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obviously you don`t....you never mentioned anybodys name in your response....who again?
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
^ are you on drugs or have you been drinking due to the ass kicking Ron took today??

He got 3% of the vote!!!!!!!! 3% !!!!!!! Highly unlikely that he would make any difference at all in the fall elections with that type of return.
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If he runs as a 3rd party, Paul will snag enough votes from the Republicans to guarantee the Democrat wins. He wouldn't need that many.

If that pisses you off, too bad. Maybe the Republicans would be ok if they would have stuck with their values. Instead they've fallen head-over-heels in love with a bunch of whacked-out Anti-American neo-conservatives.
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Hard to tell if he would make a difference or not.

In 2004 Bush won Florida 5%. If Paul won the same 4% he won in the primary it would not be enough to change the results of the state.

There were only a few states where something along the lines of 3% would swing it the other direction. Plus it is hard to tell how many Democrat votes Paul would get.
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: bamacre
It is a damn shame that the Democrats aren't seeing the gift that Ron Paul is handing them.

He is exposing to a lot of people the ills of the Republican party. But much more than that, if he runs as a 3rd party candidate he will all but hand the Democrats the election.

What more could the Democrats ask for? Hell, you guys couldn't beat Bush the second time around. Think about that. It's not like the Democrats are doing well at the plate, and here comes a guy who could literally hand you all an election in 2008. And you want him to drop out now? Jesus, you Democrats aren't very bright.

And to those who are bad-mouthing Paul, let me remind you that it has been all of us who have been blasting Republicans for overspending, it has been all of us who have have blasted the Bush admin for invading Iraq, it has been all of us who have blasted away at the Patriot Act, and it has been all of us who have been disgusted at the aggressiveness toward Iran.

He has been right there with us, fighting his own party even.

He is also the ONLY candidate who has the guts to talk about the failures of the war on drugs.

So, some of his ideas seem loony. So what? I think UHC is loony. I think being in Iraq for 100 years is loony. I think a 23% national sales tax is loony. I think ignoring a 9 trillion dollar deficit is loony.

The guy deserves some respect, a lot more than many of you give him.

And you Democrats that think he should drop out now aren't loony, you're just plain dumb.
Click to expand...

I don't want Paul to drop out, I wanted an Obama Paul ticket, but I don't think it's going to happen. Also, I support all the stuff he supports that you mentioned, but don't know about the stuff people say is crazy. I couldn't support him, for example, if he's right about all that stuff you mentioned and thinks black people should be slaves, just to pull something our of my, well, imagination. A stopped clock is right twice a day.
Click to expand...

Black people as slaves?

Please, Moonbeam, you know that's a bad analogy. I hope anyway.

Paul has stood up for the rights of ALL Americans more so than any other candidate.
Click to expand...

I told you I don't know enough about Paul to know why he's considered a nut or if there is any valid reason so I pulled something out of my ass, as I said. How about the stuff with the gold standard or the federal reserve. You tell me why he's nuts, he's your guy. I think Democrats and gun control are nuts.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
^ are you on drugs or have you been drinking due to the ass kicking Ron took today??

He got 3% of the vote!!!!!!!! 3% !!!!!!! Highly unlikely that he would make any difference at all in the fall elections with that type of return.
Click to expand...
If he runs as a 3rd party, Paul will snag enough votes from the Republicans to guarantee the Democrat wins. He wouldn't need that many.

If that pisses you off, too bad. Maybe the Republicans would be ok if they would have stuck with their values. Instead they've fallen head-over-heels in love with a bunch of whacked-out Anti-American neo-conservatives.
Click to expand...
Hard to tell if he would make a difference or not.

In 2004 Bush won Florida 5%. If Paul won the same 4% he won in the primary it would not be enough to change the results of the state.

There were only a few states where something along the lines of 3% would swing it the other direction. Plus it is hard to tell how many Democrat votes Paul would get.
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You simply cannot use primary numbers when trying to predict actual election numbers. It's a whole new ballgame.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: bamacre
It is a damn shame that the Democrats aren't seeing the gift that Ron Paul is handing them.

He is exposing to a lot of people the ills of the Republican party. But much more than that, if he runs as a 3rd party candidate he will all but hand the Democrats the election.

What more could the Democrats ask for? Hell, you guys couldn't beat Bush the second time around. Think about that. It's not like the Democrats are doing well at the plate, and here comes a guy who could literally hand you all an election in 2008. And you want him to drop out now? Jesus, you Democrats aren't very bright.

And to those who are bad-mouthing Paul, let me remind you that it has been all of us who have been blasting Republicans for overspending, it has been all of us who have have blasted the Bush admin for invading Iraq, it has been all of us who have blasted away at the Patriot Act, and it has been all of us who have been disgusted at the aggressiveness toward Iran.

He has been right there with us, fighting his own party even.

He is also the ONLY candidate who has the guts to talk about the failures of the war on drugs.

So, some of his ideas seem loony. So what? I think UHC is loony. I think being in Iraq for 100 years is loony. I think a 23% national sales tax is loony. I think ignoring a 9 trillion dollar deficit is loony.

The guy deserves some respect, a lot more than many of you give him.

And you Democrats that think he should drop out now aren't loony, you're just plain dumb.
Click to expand...

I don't want Paul to drop out, I wanted an Obama Paul ticket, but I don't think it's going to happen. Also, I support all the stuff he supports that you mentioned, but don't know about the stuff people say is crazy. I couldn't support him, for example, if he's right about all that stuff you mentioned and thinks black people should be slaves, just to pull something our of my, well, imagination. A stopped clock is right twice a day.
Click to expand...

Black people as slaves?

Please, Moonbeam, you know that's a bad analogy. I hope anyway.

Paul has stood up for the rights of ALL Americans more so than any other candidate.
Click to expand...

I told you I don't know enough about Paul to know why he's considered a nut or if there is any valid reason so I pulled something out of my ass, as I said. How about the stuff with the gold standard or the federal reserve. You tell me why he's nuts, he's your guy. I think Democrats and gun control are nuts.
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I think going to a gold standard is unrealistic for our times. But it's not something he could actually get past Congress anyway, so I ignore it. Even Paul at times has backed off this direction, and even mentioned competing currencies. I think he'd be happy just to have more congressional oversight of the Federal Reserve.

As for the rest, take a peak at what he has to say...

Good Introduction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIivoqLbeeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCM_wQy4YVg

Foreign Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur4hKqTikqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYDt7kC3Z0

Illegal Immigration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4c9S9meOng

Health Care
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjuEdJ0DAGc

Patriot Act (from 2003)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7qvpS5zbqA

Paul Youtube Homepage
http://www.youtube.com/user/RonPaul2008dotcom

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Ron Paul will not drop out anytime soon, he came in 2nd in 2 states. His supporters are most of the delegates, as that is their plan. If there is a young guy who comes to your house and tells you he is running as a Delegate for the Republican party, I can pretty much tell you he's not supporting Duncan Hunter. Sure it matters to an extent who people vote for, but it matters more about the people who are the delegates who go to the national convention.

All this is a big joke for the Ron Paul people. Everyone goes to vote like it means something when all that matters in a brokered convention is who has the most people at the convention.
 
Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
Ron Paul will not drop out anytime soon, he came in 2nd in 2 states. His supporters are most of the delegates, as that is their plan. If there is a young guy who comes to your house and tells you he is running as a Delegate for the Republican party, I can pretty much tell you he's not supporting Duncan Hunter. Sure it matters to an extent who people vote for, but it matters more about the people who are the delegates who go to the national convention.

All this is a big joke for the Ron Paul people. Everyone goes to vote like it means something when all that matters in a brokered convention is who has the most people at the convention.
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You get 'people' to the convention by winning primaries. Tonight McCain just got ALL of the delegates from Florida. Which means all the Ron Paul people in the world can go door to door or show up at the convention, none of them will have a say when it comes time for the floor vote.
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i agree, RuPaul will not be speaking or involved at the Repub convention
it is going to be a McLame love fest
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Hmmm. I think Ron Paul and his supporters might stay in because there is still a chance to have a brokered convention, where no candidate truly has a clear majority. In such a case, the delegates for RP will play a much more crucial role in getting concessions from the rest of the candidates on issues that matter to them.
 
a lot of people "should" drop out.

I don't think Ron Paul is going anywhere... same with the Wicked Douchebags of the North and South, Romney and Edwards.

I'm sure they've got their reasons, but the democratic race has been a 2-man competition since the summer, and after tonight, I'm ***officially*** declaring the republican primaries done 😉

I think Paul will be hanging on till the convention, like the Ghost of Christmas Irrelevance... looks like Huckabee is going to check and stay in till super tuesday on a lean (re: no) budget, just to see what happens. I suspect that he'll drop out on Feb. 6th and endorse McCain.

Romney... idk. he has the money and ego to stay in it for as long as he wants to. but at some point, he's gotta look at the fact that he's outspending everyone else 10:1 and still losing. if that's how he manages his own money, I'd hate to see what he'd do in the white house. 😛
 
Originally posted by: Perry404
We started with twelve candidates and by next week there will be three. Ron Paul is still standing because of his support. Otherwise he wouldn't still be in.
Ron Paul isn't going anywhere and anyone who doesn't like it had better get used to the idea. If Paul doesn't get in office then no Republican will. You think Paul supporters don't have any power then chew on that. 😀
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You mean McCain, Romney, and Huckabee?

Huckabee is going to stay in it for the long haul. He like John Edwards is hoping to play king maker.

Unlike in the Democrate Side where I candidate has influence, but not out right say who his delegates go to. On the Republican side, the Candidate with the delegates gets to say who they go to.

If Huckabee can snag 250-300 delegates, which is still possible and McCain and Romney split the rest fairly evenly. Huckabee will put McCain over the top.

Its hard to see how McCain will lose the nomination. If he doesnt outright win it, the Huck is likely to put him over the top.

At this time, theres very little chance of Romney getting the nomination outright. McCain is going to win CA, NY, and NJ. NY and NJ are winner take all.
 
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: Perry404
We started with twelve candidates and by next week there will be three. Ron Paul is still standing because of his support. Otherwise he wouldn't still be in.
Ron Paul isn't going anywhere and anyone who doesn't like it had better get used to the idea. If Paul doesn't get in office then no Republican will. You think Paul supporters don't have any power then chew on that. 😀
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You mean McCain, Romney, and Huckabee?

Huckabee is going to stay in it for the long haul. He like John Edwards is hoping to play king maker.

Unlike in the Democrate Side where I candidate has influence, but not out right say who his delegates go to. On the Republican side, the Candidate with the delegates gets to say who they go to.

If Huckabee can snag 250-300 delegates, which is still possible and McCain and Romney split the rest fairly evenly. Huckabee will put McCain over the top.

Its hard to see how McCain will lose the nomination. If he doesnt outright win it, the Huck is likely to put him over the top.

At this time, theres very little chance of Romney getting the nomination outright. McCain is going to win CA, NY, and NJ. NY and NJ are winner take all.
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Huckabee will be cooked after super Tuesday. I suppose there is a good chance he'll stay in but he won't have any money to do anything. Paul on the other hand has enough cash to go all the way and there are more moneybombs on the way.
 
For a candidate who never spent a dime in Florida and was only in the state once and that was for the debate, I say he did rather well. Getting over 62,000 votes while doing nothing to support his grassroots in that states says something. All the other candidates spent millions on Florida-for a state that is a winners take all state. McCains Financial situation is dire--in fact the new reports that were just released showed McCain in the hole nearly 2$2Million dollars. Huckabee is having a rough time getting his $10 Million before the Feb. 5 primaries. Romney spent nearly $30 million in Florida and lost. Rudy spent millions and came in third and is now out of the race.

Ron Paul shouldn't drop out. He is in a great spot to run strong in many states. We'll see what happens after Super Tuesday.
 
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

obviously you don`t....you never mentioned anybodys name in your response....who again?
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Did you read the thread title?

Don't they have message boards on your own planet that you can troll?
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Ron who......
 
That WAS pretty weak REDUNDANTUsername.
I failed to understand how you failed to understand "whose run!?! For what? President?".
Thread title. President. Yes.
 
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