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Should our older citizens be reqired to pass a driving exam?

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Unless the entire DMV system is revamped, this would friggin collapse entire cities. On any given day, there would be 500,000 people visiting the DMV for road tests. Mucho badness.


Statistically speaking, I don't agree with this. There are roughly 190 million registered drivers. 50 states and D.C. 250 business days in a year. That's only about ~15,000 drivers a day, per state. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
 
If they only test the elderly... there would be lawsuits of age discrimination all over the place. I say make it all harder like what everyone says.
 
My grandma needs to stop driving, she recently bought a 2001 Toyota Camry and on a few months of having it she side swiped her gate while backing out and knocked off her side view mirror with that same gate. When she backs out of our driveway she hits the curb on the other side of the street. It worries me when she drives around, if it gets dark while shes on the road she might get in to an accident.
 
Originally posted by: Lucky
Unless the entire DMV system is revamped, this would friggin collapse entire cities. On any given day, there would be 500,000 people visiting the DMV for road tests. Mucho badness.


Statistically speaking, I don't agree with this. There are roughly 190 million registered drivers. 50 states and D.C. 250 business days in a year. That's only about ~15,000 drivers a day, per state. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

There is no such nonsense as your "statistical average," but there are extremes. Imagine how the DMV of CA (~30 million) would handle this situation? It ain't gonna be pretty.
 
Originally posted by: Rahminator
Originally posted by: Lucky
Unless the entire DMV system is revamped, this would friggin collapse entire cities. On any given day, there would be 500,000 people visiting the DMV for road tests. Mucho badness.


Statistically speaking, I don't agree with this. There are roughly 190 million registered drivers. 50 states and D.C. 250 business days in a year. That's only about ~15,000 drivers a day, per state. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

There is no such nonsense as your "statistical average," but there are extremes. Imagine how the DMV of CA (~30 million) would handle this situation? It ain't gonna be pretty.

Ok, so perhaps some days of the week are more busy than others. Offer a dollar off to come on a statistically slow day. Put more people on that that day.

Using california as an example really proves nothing, unless you believe they have the same number of offices as say, South Dakota or Alaska.
 
Originally posted by: Lucky
Unless the entire DMV system is revamped, this would friggin collapse entire cities. On any given day, there would be 500,000 people visiting the DMV for road tests. Mucho badness.


Statistically speaking, I don't agree with this. There are roughly 190 million registered drivers. 50 states and D.C. 250 business days in a year. That's only about ~15,000 drivers a day, per state. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
I don't know. 15,000 a day, in addition to testing for new licenses would sure strain a lot of DMV resources.

 
Yes. The tests should be made far more difficult than they are now, and you should have to take a test on a regular schedule:


18-25: Every year
25-55: Every 3 years
55-65: Every year
65-75: Every 6 months
75+: No license

 
Originally posted by: Chaotic42

75+: No license

You can't just say that anyone over the age of 75 cannot drive... there are 75+ year-olds who are perfectly capable of driving.
 
yes, tests shouldn't be as easy as they are now. they should also be *driving* and *parking* tests, written tests are junk when someone is driving a 2800-6000lb vehicle.

i think that there should be a restricted license pre-18 (drive to and from work/school etc.) and then mandatory driving tests every 3 years (@21, @24). Mandatory tests every 5 years after that (29, 34, etc). Physicals and driving tests every 2-3 years for individuals over 64. And at some age, no license.

Get a ticket with points and you *have* to take an additional test within 6 months. Tests should cost 120$ and take minimum 30 minutes (irregardless if you pass or fail).
 
is there's a minimum driving age, why shudn't there be a maximum driving age???

75+: No license !!!

i'm more scared of those shrivelled old sh!tes who cant see above the fvckin steering wheel, have the reflxes of a cow and drive cars the size of battleships than any1else on the road!

old people become senile, face it ... yank their license!
 
I think people forgot they live in America. Seniors are a powerful voting group. No politician is going to take away their right to drive, especially since many would never pass a comprehensive driving test. Many probably cant even pass the vision test.

The accidents and deaths caused by seniors is simply one we have to accept, because as a younger generation, we are powerless to stop it.
 
Yes, because sadly enough, many senior citizens won't admit to themselves or others that they are becoming a danger on the road. As such, they won't voluntarily give up their driving priveledges.

I think that the re-test should be done at least every four years after a certain age, and the initial examinations should be harder. However, if that becomes the case, then many cities will need better mass transit systems in place.
 
Originally posted by: Vonkhan
is there's a minimum driving age, why shudn't there be a maximum driving age???

Because if they've been driving for 50+ years, you can't just go and take that right away without a justifiable reason - like failing a driving test or eye test. What's wrong with just letting elderly people drive as long as they can pass the test (as long as they make the test reasonably difficult). You can't punish the entire group because SOME have difficulty driving.

And it's a lot easier to justify not giving certain rights to minors.
 
i think it would be much easier to make it a law that all doctors are required to contact the DMV when a patient is no longer physical able to safely drive. hell the same should go for eye exams when you get new glasses. if you got meet the vision requirements the examiner is legaly obligated to contact the DMV.
 
Originally posted by: bockchow
i think it would be much easier to make it a law that all doctors are required to contact the DMV when a patient is no longer physical able to safely drive. hell the same should go for eye exams when you get new glasses. if you got meet the vision requirements the examiner is legaly obligated to contact the DMV.

Woudn?t that violate doctor patient client privilege?
 
Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: Rahminator
Originally posted by: Lucky
Unless the entire DMV system is revamped, this would friggin collapse entire cities. On any given day, there would be 500,000 people visiting the DMV for road tests. Mucho badness.


Statistically speaking, I don't agree with this. There are roughly 190 million registered drivers. 50 states and D.C. 250 business days in a year. That's only about ~15,000 drivers a day, per state. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

There is no such nonsense as your "statistical average," but there are extremes. Imagine how the DMV of CA (~30 million) would handle this situation? It ain't gonna be pretty.

Ok, so perhaps some days of the week are more busy than others. Offer a dollar off to come on a statistically slow day. Put more people on that that day.

Using california as an example really proves nothing, unless you believe they have the same number of offices as say, South Dakota or Alaska.

Uh, okay buddy...come out to Southern California and stand in line at the DMV. You're looking at a 1 hour line at the minimum unless u camp out to be the first one in line.
 
Originally posted by: mugsywwiii
Originally posted by: Chaotic42

75+: No license

You can't just say that anyone over the age of 75 cannot drive... there are 75+ year-olds who are perfectly capable of driving.

Yeah...and? There are 14 year olds that are capable of driving as well...let's give them keys too.
 
Woudn?t that violate doctor patient client privilege?

i don't think so. if you come in with a gun shot wound i'm preaty sure it has to be reported. if it's an issue of public safty i think it's legal.
 
Originally posted by: KevinH
Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: Rahminator
Originally posted by: Lucky
Unless the entire DMV system is revamped, this would friggin collapse entire cities. On any given day, there would be 500,000 people visiting the DMV for road tests. Mucho badness.


Statistically speaking, I don't agree with this. There are roughly 190 million registered drivers. 50 states and D.C. 250 business days in a year. That's only about ~15,000 drivers a day, per state. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

There is no such nonsense as your "statistical average," but there are extremes. Imagine how the DMV of CA (~30 million) would handle this situation? It ain't gonna be pretty.

Ok, so perhaps some days of the week are more busy than others. Offer a dollar off to come on a statistically slow day. Put more people on that that day.

Using california as an example really proves nothing, unless you believe they have the same number of offices as say, South Dakota or Alaska.

Uh, okay buddy...come out to Southern California and stand in line at the DMV. You're looking at a 1 hour line at the minimum unless u camp out to be the first one in line.


don't stand at dmv just go to triple aaa unless u need to do driving test, or take a written test
 
Yep, due to pure common sense, "our older citizens" should be required to pass a driving exam. A slap in the face? It could be taken that way. But when you're looking out for the good of the many, a little time out of grandpa's day can be worth it.

There is a bit of "well, I've paid my dues, have driven for x years, etc.". There is the fact that our bodies age, our reflexes slow, etc. Sure, there are those that remain uber-alert even 80-90+, but I'd wager they are the exception, rather than the rule.

Guess it's just a case of needing to change people's perception of things. Having them (or anyone for that matter) take a new test is not a personal shot at all, just something that improves the safety and quality of life for everybody.
 
Originally posted by: KevinH
Originally posted by: mugsywwiii
Originally posted by: Chaotic42

75+: No license

You can't just say that anyone over the age of 75 cannot drive... there are 75+ year-olds who are perfectly capable of driving.

Yeah...and? There are 14 year olds that are capable of driving as well...let's give them keys too.

Edit: MY mistake, I explained more clearly in the post after the one you quoted... you still should have read the whole thread. 🙂
Did you read the rest of my post? Because unless you can refute everything else I said, then what you said is irrelevant. I explained the difference. Would you like me to spell it out for you more simply?

You're talking about TAKING A PRIVELEGE AWAY from a 75 year old without cause. WITHOUT CAUSE. With underage people, the state is DENYING a privelege until you reach a certain age. Do you see the difference? The 75 year old has been driving for 50 years... if they are still fit to drive, why take that privelege away? Just because they're old?

Originally posted by: retard
don't stand at dmv just go to triple aaa unless u need to do driving test, or take a written test

You can renew your driver's license at AAA? I've never had to go to the DMV for anything else. Got my plates and registration through my dealer.
 
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Yes. The tests should be made far more difficult than they are now, and you should have to take a test on a regular schedule:


18-25: Every year
25-55: Every 3 years
55-65: Every year
65-75: Every 6 months
75+: No license
I strongly disagree with the no license over age 75. My parents are both about that age but they have both lived clean lives and are still VERY healthy and capable of driving. Not everyone is the same. Some age better than others. I've seen 60 year-olds who look 90 and 90 year-olds who look 60. To pull the licenses of those who have lived well and aged well is to cut their lives off prematurely and unfairly.
I would instead suggest that every driver over the age of 65 be re-tested every year for reflexes and vision, and that special notice be given to health conditions that could cause sudden impairment (i.e. heart conditions, etc.).
Every other driver should be completely re-tested every time their license comes up for renewal, which is usually every 3-5 years. Children ages 16 and 17 should no longer be allowed to receive licenses except for special circumstances like farm use.
 
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