Should men also have the "right to choose"

[cybrsage]

Oh please. you can't force someone to have an abortion any more then you can force someone to get fixed.

That is not what I said, though I do understand it is far easier to argue against a point you invent.

Do you think institutionalized sexual discrimination should be continued in the US? To clarify more, do you believe the sexually discrimination that says women should be allowed to decide if they want to be a parent but men are not allowed to decide if they want to be a parent should be allowed to continue in the US?

 

[cybrsage]

WHAT? If you don't want kids, don't have sex or get fixed. It's the only choices you have without violating another person's rights.

Do you apply this view to women also?

 

[nobodyknows]

Unless you are a woman right?



Or she could raise the child by herself. Or do you think women need a man?

No one is imposing any choice on a woman. Did you even read the original post?

God your an ignorant fuck.

Of course your attempting to impose a choice on the women. Either kill your child or support it yourself. Your also trying to stick the taxpayer for the cost of raising the child. See how you are?

Man-up or get fixed. It's a fairly easy procedure and can be done on the doctor's office. I know, I had it done when I had enough children. And I'm still stuck raising a granddaughter for a no show Dad who had sex with my very good looking but mentally ill daughter. Now add to that the fact that I'm termiall illy and have to be the father figure for my granddaughter instead of spending my last years traveling around the country/world. And I still think the women should have the choice without being coerced monetarily. I would have been disappointed if my daughter had choose abortion, unlike your parents I raised her better then that.

 

[nobodyknows]

That is not what I said, though I do understand it is far easier to argue against a point you invent.

Do you think institutionalized sexual discrimination should be continued in the US? To clarify more, do you believe the sexually discrimination that says women should be allowed to decide if they want to be a parent but men are not allowed to decide if they want to be a parent should be allowed to continue in the US?

Yes. If you want your rocks off, just masterbate. If you want to make love, then suffer the consequences.

 

[cybrsage]

Yes. If you want your rocks off, just masterbate. If you want to make love, then suffer the consequences.

Do you apply this view equally to women as well?

 

[nehalem256]

God your an ignorant fuck.

Of course your attempting to impose a choice on the women. Either kill your child or support it yourself. Your also trying to stick the taxpayer for the cost of raising the child. See how you are?

Note the use of the word OR.

OR means a choice.

And funny how you apparently have no problem with the woman imposing her choice on the man.

 

[nobodyknows]

Do you apply this view to women also?

Pretty much, but shit still happens doesn't it. Your always going to have trouble when half the population was created to have sex with the other half.

 

[cybrsage]

So you think women should "woman up" and not have abortions if they get pregnant, since that is a way to avoid their responsibility? Instead, they should either get fixed or if they make love, then suffer the consequences?

 

[nobodyknows]

Note the use of the word OR.

OR means a choice.

And funny how you apparently have no problem with the woman imposing her choice on the man.

You're ignorant if you think aborting a child is a choice for most women. perhaps you need a form, a pre-sex agreement to fill out and have notarized before having sex? You could carry it in your wallet, right next to your condoms.

 

[nobodyknows]

So you think women should "woman up" and not have abortions if they get pregnant, since that is a way to avoid their responsibility? Instead, they should either get fixed or if they make love, then suffer the consequences?

No, women have that choice. It's in their body not the mens. That is why they have the choice and not the men.

 

[Atreus21]

Apparently everyone's pro-life and pro-responsibility when it comes to men...

 

[nehalem256]

You're ignorant if you think aborting a child is a choice for most women. perhaps you need a form, a pre-sex agreement to fill out and have notarized before having sex? You could carry it in your wallet, right next to your condoms.

Actually I have heard feminists claim that 1/3 women will get an abortion.

Doesn't seem like it that hard for them.

 

[nehalem256]

No, women have that choice. It's in their body not the mens. That is why they have the choice and not the men.

And since it is her choice it should be her responsibility.

 

[nobodyknows]

Actually I have heard feminists claim that 1/3 women will get an abortion.

Doesn't seem like it that hard for them.

Oh, do you even know someone who had an abortion? Have you even impregnated a women? Or had a women you imprenated have an abortion?

 

[nobodyknows]

And since it is her choice it should be her responsibility.

Sorry, but that's not what the laws says. LOL at you. You're like the Tomcat that will kill it's own kittens so the female will come back in heat.

 

[nehalem256]

Oh, do you even know someone who had an abortion? Have you even impregnated a women? Or had a women you imprenated have an abortion?

No to all of them.

EDIT: Actually I guess I could know someone who has had an abortion. I do not normally make a habit of asking women this when I meet them.

 

[nehalem256]

Sorry, but that's not what the laws says. LOL at you. You're like the Tomcat that will kill it's own kittens so the female will come back in heat.

Everyone knows what the law is.

The top is what the law should be

Funny how women are all for being independent from men... until the time comes for taking responsibility. Then it is like the 1950s again.

 

[nobodyknows]

Apparently everyone's pro-life and pro-responsibility when it comes to men...

I support the women's right to choose. The man forfeits his right to choose when he passes his seed along.

 

[cybrsage]

No, women have that choice. It's in their body not the mens. That is why they have the choice and not the men.

Then you lied when you said your view applies to women as well. You do not actually think women should "women up" and either get fixed or if they make love, then suffer the consequences but you think men should.

Sexist at its finest.

 

[nobodyknows]

Everyone knows what the law is.

The top is what the law should be

Funny how women are all for being independent from men... until the time comes for taking responsibility. Then it is like the 1950s again.

You have a point about women's lib in general, but it does not apply in this situation.

 

[cybrsage]

Apparently everyone's pro-life and pro-responsibility when it comes to men...

Yep, apparently most of the libs here are pretty darn sexist.

 

[nobodyknows]

Then you lied when you said your view applies to women as well. You do not actually think women should "women up" and either get fixed or if they make love, then suffer the consequences but you think men should.

Sexist at its finest.

They are the weaker sex you know, they need some protection from the Tomcats.

 

[nobodyknows]

Yep, apparently most of the libs here are pretty darn sexist.

So giving women a choice of what to do with their own bodies is "sexist"??

Lame.

Are you for choice or against it? Or do you think only the man has the choice? What if the man wants it and the women doesn't? Can he then force her to go through a pregnancy?

 

[lotus503]

Then you lied when you said your view applies to women as well. You do not actually think women should "women up" and either get fixed or if they make love, then suffer the consequences but you think men should.

Sexist at its finest.

More circular discussion, I'd respond to your idiocy but what's the point.

 

[Atreus21]

I support the women's right to choose. The man forfeits his right to choose when he passes his seed along.

To which both parties excepting rape give their concession. If men forfeit their rights at some stage, it stands to reason that women, except in cases of rape, do the same.