Should I put a cold air intake on my Civic?

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Demon-Xanth

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Actually, this one has much more surface area and its open-celled structure is fine-tuned for the perfect balance between filtration (to keep the engine spinning at high RPMs) and flow rate, to allow your air-starved engine the ability to regulate its own fuel usage for maximum power. Plus, the dual-layer media allows a three-fold increase in lifetime due to segregation of differently-sized particulate matter, which prevents filter clogging.

http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/...Ntx=mode+matchall&recN=0&N=0&Ntk=P_PartNumber

Those ones are best off road because they soak up the water and keep it from getting in your engine.
 

punjabiplaya

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Those ones are best off road because they soak up the water and keep it from getting in your engine.

Add some activated carbon and it'll clean the air going into your engine so you don't have to worry about pollution oxidizing your valves.
 

Arkaign

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OP, you have an economy car, it's not gonna be fast no matter what you do. It's not even that quick for an economy car, I blew the doors off of my buddy's 06 Manual LX coupe with my at the time stock Focus in a 0-80 run. To a real performance car both of us would have looked like we were chained to a tree.

Current Focus vs current Civic (non-si) = Civic slightly heavier, same hp, less torque, and narrower powerband. The Civic does better against the Mazda3, which tip the scales at 3000lbs+ rather than 2600 and change. A decent driver in a 2.3 manual will eat you though, and forget about the new 2.5, which delivers corvette-like torque in comparison.

If you want to have some fun, go ahead, but just remember we have slowwwwww cars. They are more spirited than the typical autotragic econoboxes, but only a little.
 

PhoKingGuy

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My Jetta TDI is faster, gets better gas mileage and rides better. LoL

Just leave it alone until you can afford something worth dumping a few bucks into.

(I used to have a MKV GTI that I flashed to stage 1, 260/240 at the crank)
 

Arkaign

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coxmaster

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My Jetta TDI is faster, gets better gas mileage and rides better. LoL

Just leave it alone until you can afford something worth dumping a few bucks into.

(I used to have a MKV GTI that I flashed to stage 1, 260/240 at the crank)

My Jetta 2.0T is also faster! Incredible! lol
 

reallyscrued

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OP, you have an economy car, it's not gonna be fast no matter what you do. It's not even that quick for an economy car, I blew the doors off of my buddy's 06 Manual LX coupe with my at the time stock Focus in a 0-80 run. To a real performance car both of us would have looked like we were chained to a tree.

Current Focus vs current Civic (non-si) = Civic slightly heavier, same hp, less torque, and narrower powerband. The Civic does better against the Mazda3, which tip the scales at 3000lbs+ rather than 2600 and change. A decent driver in a 2.3 manual will eat you though, and forget about the new 2.5, which delivers corvette-like torque in comparison.

If you want to have some fun, go ahead, but just remember we have slowwwwww cars. They are more spirited than the typical autotragic econoboxes, but only a little.

Si's ride nothing like the lower trims.

But CAI would be useless regardless. If you have a non-si Civic, don't touch it. If you like your car and want a faster version, sell what you have now, and save up money to pay the difference to buy an Si (or save up for a few years and buy a real sports car).
 

vshah

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Si's ride nothing like the lower trims.

But CAI would be useless regardless. If you have a non-si Civic, don't touch it. If you like your car and want a faster version, sell what you have now, and save up money to pay the difference to buy an Si (or save up for a few years and buy a real sports car).

Si is a great car, but it is underpowered as well. if speed is what OP is after, he should just save up for something that is more powerful stock, or is easier to add power to.

I'd have to dump 6-7k into my 07 Si just to get to stock ms3 power levels. just not worth it. I plan to keep it stock, use it as my daily driver, and get something much more fun for weekends down the line.
 

Arkaign

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Yeah the Si is a great driving (and shifting imho) car, but it wasn't about power. Come to think of it, I don't think any of the Honda Si (or my old SH) products were really about straight-line power. They're more about being a nice nimble well-rounded car. It's just that the competition in the price range has gotten brutally good. Hell a Cobalt SS is probably at least the equal of a stock C4 Vette, and those were pretty expensive new when you do the inflation conversion say for 1995.
 

KIAman

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Yeah the Si is a great driving (and shifting imho) car, but it wasn't about power. Come to think of it, I don't think any of the Honda Si (or my old SH) products were really about straight-line power. They're more about being a nice nimble well-rounded car. It's just that the competition in the price range has gotten brutally good. Hell a Cobalt SS is probably at least the equal of a stock C4 Vette, and those were pretty expensive new when you do the inflation conversion say for 1995.

If I were Honda, I'd put the turbo-4 from the RDX into the next Civic SI. Wow, that would absolutely fly.
 

Arkaign

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If I were Honda, I'd put the turbo-4 from the RDX into the next Civic SI. Wow, that would absolutely fly.

I think that's a great idea, but I would take it one step further :

Next gen Civic :

Base/LX/etc : 150hp i4
Si : 220hp i4
Si-R : Turbo i4, brembos, double wishbone/etc, $28-$29k

The Si sells decently, and the market for the SS/SRT/Speed/etc vehicles is kinda tiny compared to the masses that buy the regular models, but I think it would make a nice 'halo' vehicle to get Honda back on the map. The mid-90s Civic Si and Integra Type R were really really good compared to the competition, and brought the name up in tuning circles. The difference in performance between 1995 and 2010 is pretty spectacular though, while Honda has pretty much stood still. I think I recall a recent Edmunds comparo of an old Integra vs. a new Civic Si, and the old Integra won most of the comparison.
 

PricklyPete

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I think that's a great idea, but I would take it one step further :

Next gen Civic :

Base/LX/etc : 150hp i4
Si : 220hp i4
Si-R : Turbo i4, brembos, double wishbone/etc, $28-$29k

The Si sells decently, and the market for the SS/SRT/Speed/etc vehicles is kinda tiny compared to the masses that buy the regular models, but I think it would make a nice 'halo' vehicle to get Honda back on the map. The mid-90s Civic Si and Integra Type R were really really good compared to the competition, and brought the name up in tuning circles. The difference in performance between 1995 and 2010 is pretty spectacular though, while Honda has pretty much stood still. I think I recall a recent Edmunds comparo of an old Integra vs. a new Civic Si, and the old Integra won most of the comparison.

Combined with a nice design and I think those would sell really well. Hell, that would tempt me.
 

PhoKingGuy

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Arkaign

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Well I have the ARP flash trial on it right now, they're running a special where it lasts for a few days. So technically now its faster, but I probably won't keep it, the mileage stays the same if you can keep your foot out of it, but its very hard to do so.

Ah cool, I was just curious. Torque ftw!
 

T2urtle

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if you wanted to spend money on mods, i honestly would aim for a 1- 1.5 inch drop paired up with some aftermarket strut/shocks. dont waste time in making it fast, but most cases its easier to repair what is broken with aftermarket stuff.
 

BassBomb

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I didn't do any engine mods to my car yet since I am happy with how fast or slow (depending on how you look at it) my car is... instead I put my money into how it looks, rides and sounds (inside, not out)
 

SickBeast

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OP, this is for you:

http://www.holley.com/types/BIG SHOT Kits 200-400 HP.asp

For a very brief, shining moment your car will believe it's a supercar-level performance machine (*).

* -- getting enough fuel to the engine to produce the power in the first place is left as an exercise to the interested reader.

Nah, I want good power *all* the time.

You know, one thing I wanted to point out is the fact that a +10hp gain to a civic is probably equivalent to a 20-30hp gain on a faster car for 2 reasons:
- the civic is lighter than most cars
- 10hp represents a larger gain in terms of percentage to the civic than it would to a car like a corvette; i.e. a 10hp gain would be noticeable on a civic, but it probably would not be on a corvette
 

SparkyJJO

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Nah, I want good power *all* the time.

You know, one thing I wanted to point out is the fact that a +10hp gain to a civic is probably equivalent to a 20-30hp gain on a faster car for 2 reasons:
- the civic is lighter than most cars
- 10hp represents a larger gain in terms of percentage to the civic than it would to a car like a corvette; i.e. a 10hp gain would be noticeable on a civic, but it probably would not be on a corvette

Love that ricer math. Now the advertised HP numbers are worth 2-3x more than they say. Sweet, sign me up.