Should I lie about smoking pot?

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: DawsonsDada

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: nkgreen
Should I lie about smoking pot?

Yes, unless you want them to trash your clearance request immediately.

I would say that your response is and EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The thing about lying is that if you tell one, you have to tell more to keep the original one you started with. <Tell the TRUTH from the beginning.

I used to be one of the people that processed the clearances and did the investigations for security clearances. If I, and most everyone else I worked with, even THOUGHT you were lying about something on the questionare we did two things IMMEDIATELY.

1. Rejected an interim with cause.
2. Notified the investigators to specifically search for information about the subject matter in question.

99.9% of the time our reservations about the applicant were correct.

If you are honest the first time, it is easier to get a clearance, regardless of what you have done that it is to get one by lying about something that WILL be found out. If you lie to begin with and you are found out you face Federal charges for falsification of information.

So, do the investigators have their sense of humor surgically removed or what?

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
So, do the investigators have their sense of humor surgically removed or what?

I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you.

 

[SirStev0]

Wouldn't it be grand if we didn't live in a world where something as insignificant as this wouldn't even be an issue...

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
So I guess this thread brings up another question: Are they more suspicious of "No" answers than "Yes" answers?

I can honestly say I've never done any illegal drugs, save for underage alcohol + tobacco. No pot, nothing. If my friends are any indication of most people my age I'm in a distinct minority. Wonder if anyone would believe me if I ever needed a security clearance.

Viper GTS

Well, I put down "yes" on the form, and was never once subjected to a random urinalysis.
One of the guys I went to tech school with was tested 3 times in a 6 month period, and he'd put down "no" on the form (and I believed it to be true).

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
Wouldn't it be grand if we didn't live in a world where something as insignificant as this wouldn't even be an issue...

I know.

 

[l0cke]

Put yes and if they ask you about it say you might have but you were too high during the test to remember.

 

[antyler]

Do not lie.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
wwzjd?

Do you have that in bumper stickers?

 

[biggestmuff]

Lying for a clearance. Just the type of person that needs one. :roll:

 

[Deeko]

As someone who just went through the SSBI last summer.....

Do not lie. Do not even consider lying. Do not even think about considering lying. They will find out, one way or another. You might still get cleared depending on the degree of the lie, but the process will be much more difficult.

They don't care if you're smoked before. They want to know if you have a problem, and if you're honest.

Everything you tell the government investigators is strictly confidential, so you don't have to worry about your employer hearing about it, either.

 

[BudAshes]

Bill Clinton smoked weed and he became president. Just tell them you didn't inhale.

 

[Juno]

Originally posted by: everman

Originally posted by: nkgreen

The security clearance is secret.

Not anymore

LOL pwned

 

[RedRooster]

"It's not a lie if you believe it." - George Costanza

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: Juno

Originally posted by: everman

Originally posted by: nkgreen

The security clearance is secret.

Not anymore

LOL pwned

You're aware that "secret" is a level of clearance, he wasn't referring to the fact that him having it was a secret, right?

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Lying for a clearance. Just the type of person that needs one. :roll:

I'm not lying about working for the KGB, you wise and beautiful woman.

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Lying for a clearance. Just the type of person that needs one. :roll:

I'm not lying about working for the KGB, you wise and beautiful woman.

Nice, jerk.

You don't get it. Why lie at all?

What's the position and where is the job? What company?

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Don't lie - just be truthful, everyone has made mistakes and it's best to be honest.

 

[potato28]

Don't lie, cheat!

 

[her209]

Mmmkay... Drugs are bad.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Lying for a clearance. Just the type of person that needs one. :roll:

I'm not lying about working for the KGB, you wise and beautiful woman.

Nice, jerk.

You don't get it. Why lie at all?

What's the position and where is the job? What company?

Because I'd hate to lose a fucking awesome job for mildly foolish mistake over a year ago, that soon will probably be legal anyway? It's a co-op job for the government.

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Lying for a clearance. Just the type of person that needs one. :roll:

I'm not lying about working for the KGB, you wise and beautiful woman.

Nice, jerk.

You don't get it. Why lie at all?

What's the position and where is the job? What company?

Because I'd hate to lose a fucking awesome job for mildly foolish mistake over a year ago, that soon will probably be legal anyway? It's a co-op job for the government.

Then why sabotage yourself? Now who's being the wise and beautiful woman?

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Lying for a clearance. Just the type of person that needs one. :roll:

I'm not lying about working for the KGB, you wise and beautiful woman.

Nice, jerk.

You don't get it. Why lie at all?

What's the position and where is the job? What company?

Because I'd hate to lose a fucking awesome job for mildly foolish mistake over a year ago, that soon will probably be legal anyway? It's a co-op job for the government.

Then why sabotage yourself? Now who's being the wise and beautiful woman?

I didn't know what was worse, smoking or lying. Your comment implies that you think my character is less than worthy for the job.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Lying for a clearance. Just the type of person that needs one. :roll:

I'm not lying about working for the KGB, you wise and beautiful woman.

If you lie about one thing, the government will assume you will lied about everything else you've told them as well as anything you will tell them in the future.

It's simple, don't lie.

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Lying for a clearance. Just the type of person that needs one. :roll:

I'm not lying about working for the KGB, you wise and beautiful woman.

Nice, jerk.

You don't get it. Why lie at all?

What's the position and where is the job? What company?

Because I'd hate to lose a fucking awesome job for mildly foolish mistake over a year ago, that soon will probably be legal anyway? It's a co-op job for the government.

Then why sabotage yourself? Now who's being the wise and beautiful woman?

I didn't know what was worse, smoking or lying. Your comment implies that you think my character is less than worthy for the job.

It is.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
It is.

Gimme a fucking break. You don't know me, and I'm sure you shit rose petals.