Should I go to college out-of-state?

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I'm finishing up my junior year of high school, but I actually should be graduating this year. My birthday's October 5th, 2003, and the state where I live has a winter cutoff, which means that I was supposed to start Kindergarten in the fall of 2008. However, because my parents thought I was immature and didn't have a lot of confidence in me, they waited until the fall of 2009 to send me. All through school, I've felt embarrassed about being a year behind, and out-of-place for being more than a year older than some of my classmates. The thing is, though, that most states have a September cutoff, which means that in most states, I wouldn't have been allowed to start Kindergarten until the fall of 2009. Thus, by the standards of most states, I'm in the right grade. If I went to college in a state with a September cutoff, I'd be exactly in the year I'm supposed to be in, and there wouldn't be anything weird about turning 19 in October of my freshman year, since that's the norm for October-born people in that state. I'd still be one of the very oldest, but I'd still fall within the normal age range for my year. I know this seems crazy, but lately, nothing has been more important to me than being normal and fitting in.
 

highland145

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Go where you get the most scholarship $ or what you can afford, which is probably in state.

Don't get a useless degree.
 
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IronWing

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No one cares how old you are in college (other than knowing if you can legally buy booze or pot). Also, if that's really your birth date, you shouldn't be posting it on the internet.
 
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No.


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(Unless they give you a full scholarship. Never go out of state unless you want to pay off student loans for the next 30 years. It's quite possibly the dumbest move one can make. At the end of the day it's the same piece of paper with a different name on it. As long as it doesn't say "ITT Technical Institute" or "University of Phoenix" on that paper you're in the same position as anyone from any other school.
 
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I care. What's important to me is what the facts are, not what other people think about the facts.
Then you're a complete moron and shouldn't go to college. So I guess we found the answer to your question!


Which makes sense since you were contemplating going out of state for no actual reason.

Anyhow, looks like OP is a perfect example of why student loans shouldn't be given to anyone with a pulse.
 

Red Squirrel

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Stay at home, go to a local college. WAY cheaper. Normally jobs just care that you have *a* post secondary diploma in a certain field, not one from a specific prestigious college. This might depend highly on the job though but if you spend half of your life paying for your school because you went out of town, was it really worth it in the end? Pick a job that won't care so much.

As much as I could not wait to be on my own it just made no financial sense for me to do so without an income so I ended up staying with my parents throughout college. I'd get a job in the summer which would pay for tuition/books and rest would go towards savings for a house. By the time I graduated I had some money in the bank, stayed at home for another year while working then had enough for a downpayment on a house and moved. The whole thing about moving out of the house by 18 makes no financial sense especially in this economy. It's not the same as when our parents were young. They could easily get a job straight out of high school and the costs of living were not as high so their money went further right off the bat.
 
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I'm finishing up my junior year of high school, but I actually should be graduating this year. My birthday's October 5th, 2003, and the state where I live has a winter cutoff, which means that I was supposed to start Kindergarten in the fall of 2008. However, because my parents thought I was immature and didn't have a lot of confidence in me, they waited until the fall of 2009 to send me. All through school, I've felt embarrassed about being a year behind, and out-of-place for being more than a year older than some of my classmates. The thing is, though, that most states have a September cutoff, which means that in most states, I wouldn't have been allowed to start Kindergarten until the fall of 2009. Thus, by the standards of most states, I'm in the right grade. If I went to college in a state with a September cutoff, I'd be exactly in the year I'm supposed to be in, and there wouldn't be anything weird about turning 19 in October of my freshman year, since that's the norm for October-born people in that state. I'd still be one of the very oldest, but I'd still fall within the normal age range for my year. I know this seems crazy, but lately, nothing has been more important to me than being normal and fitting in.
Eh, normal? I hope you outgrow the need to feel "normal." I just finished reading this:


If you can afford the out of state fees without difficulty, suit yourself. Otherwise you might IMO actually benefit from being "different" from your companions
 
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ultimatebob

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The only time age matters in college is when it's time to buy beer for parties. Otherwise, NOBODY cares!

The most important thing is picking a marketable degree. Good luck finding a good paying job with a degree in Poetry.
 

Muse

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No one cares how old you are in college (other than knowing if you can legally buy booze or pot). Also, if that's really your birth date, you shouldn't be posting it on the internet.
I dropped out of the university 5 times, 4 times before I got my undergraduate degree. I skipped the gown and ceremonies. By the time I graduated I was 11 years older than I should have been if I'd never dropped out. Seeing the "real world" several times before matriculating gave me a much different perspective on things, which I think was valuable.
 
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In hindsight I wish I went away to college. It would have been a great time to live in another part of the country. But at the time I didn't even care about college and just went because that's what I was supposed to do. Of course though, I'm really glad I did go. If I could do it again I'd try to go somewhere else though that is near a beach and warm year round, like San Diego or Miami.
 
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Torn Mind

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You'll learn quickly college is much more disconnected than whatever high school politics you're used to.

Your wacko Billie Eilish Green hair will quickly become her now current conventional platinum blond as "the valuables" change.
 

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I was the same as OP - my parents held me back before kindergarten, so I was always roughly one year older than everyone in my grade growing up. I didn't mind (or think about it) at all; if anything, it was cool, because I could drive before everyone else could, and I turned 18 before everyone! Same deal in college - you're likely one of the first to turn 21 so you can be the cool guy who buys alcohol. It certainly gives you an advantage overall.

As for going to an out of state school, it depends what you're studying. For a liberal arts degree, absolutely not. For a STEM degree, it could make sense especially if you can get financial assistance or your parents saved up to give you a full ride. Above all else, choose a school that offers a co-op program, so you get at least a couple of years of real experience working for a company, which will most likely translate into a good job right after graduation.
 
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SKORPI0

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Go where you get the most scholarship $ or what you can afford, which is probably in state.

Don't get a useless degree.
 
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I was the same as OP - my parents held me back before kindergarten, so I was always roughly one year older than everyone in my grade growing up. I didn't mind (or think about it) at all; if anything, it was cool, because I could drive before everyone else could, and I turned 18 before everyone! Same deal in college - you're likely one of the first to turn 21 so you can be the cool guy who buys alcohol. It certainly gives you an advantage overall.

But it's not like you got to drive or drink any earlier in your life than you would have otherwise. If I hadn't been held back, I still would've got my driver's license in October of 2019. The only difference is I would've been a junior instead of a sophomore. No matter what, I'll be able to go to bars in October of 2024 as a college junior, which would still be the case even if I were to be a senior at that point. Likewise, someone born in October of 2016 will be able to drive in October of 2032, regardless of whether they're a 10th grader or an 11th grader at that point, and drink in October of 2037, regardless of whether they're a college junior or a college senior at that point.

The same set of people who had to wait after you to drive, vote, and drink would've still had to wait after you to drive, vote, and drink had you not been held back. The same set of people who would've been able to drive, vote, and drink before you if you hadn't been held back still got to drive, vote, and drink before you. Objectively speaking, you didn't drive, vote, or drink any earlier in your life than you would have. You did, however, graduate high school and college later than you would have.
 

highland145

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Teaching degrees should be free if they do go on to teach. That's a tough job for the pay.
 
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MrSquished

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No.


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(Unless they give you a full scholarship. Never go out of state unless you want to pay off student loans for the next 30 years. It's quite possibly the dumbest move one can make. At the end of the day it's the same piece of paper with a different name on it. As long as it doesn't say "ITT Technical Institute" or "University of Phoenix" on that paper you're in the same position as anyone from any other school.

This is terrible advice. It really depends on what your major will be and what school you can get into and your finances. Some states just won't have a school that is good for your major. For some majors, just go to the best state school you can if money is a concern. Certain schools really do have good programs for certain studies where you will not only learn more, but you will be able to build a much better network to leverage into jobs down the road. There is no one simple yes or no answer to this question. What do you want to study? What are your finances like? Etc...

Definitely don't listen to this advice.
 

zinfamous

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I care. What's important to me is what the facts are, not what other people think about the facts.
I get the sense that you are going to continue to struggle getting along with people. Again, what you care about...here...really doesn't matter. You aren't the center of anyone else's world.

Just do your thing.
 
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This is terrible advice. It really depends on what your major will be and what school you can get into and your finances. Some states just won't have a school that is good for your major. For some majors, just go to the best state school you can if money is a concern. Certain schools really do have good programs for certain studies where you will not only learn more, but you will be able to build a much better network to leverage into jobs down the road. There is no one simple yes or no answer to this question. What do you want to study? What are your finances like? Etc...

Definitely don't listen to this advice.
Congrats. What's your student debt at so we can have a good laugh?
 

zinfamous

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But it's not like you got to drive or drink any earlier in your life than you would have otherwise. If I hadn't been held back, I still would've got my driver's license in October of 2019. The only difference is I would've been a junior instead of a sophomore. No matter what, I'll be able to go to bars in October of 2024 as a college junior, which would still be the case even if I were to be a senior at that point. Likewise, someone born in October of 2016 will be able to drive in October of 2032, regardless of whether they're a 10th grader or an 11th grader at that point, and drink in October of 2037, regardless of whether they're a college junior or a college senior at that point.

The same set of people who had to wait after you to drive, vote, and drink would've still had to wait after you to drive, vote, and drink had you not been held back. The same set of people who would've been able to drive, vote, and drink before you if you hadn't been held back still got to drive, vote, and drink before you. Objectively speaking, you didn't drive, vote, or drink any earlier in your life than you would have. You did, however, graduate high school and college later than you would have.

Amazing how you continue to insist that everyone that has actually gone through this part of their life, knows less than you think you do about any of this.

No one fucking cares. About any of this. No one. The more you harp on this kind of useless dumbshit, the more people will distance themselves from you, because they will see that you are strange.

There is simply no "normal" set age to do anything or be anywhere at any point in college. There are people there that will be way fucking older than you, with less credits.

But please, continue to try and tell the rest of us that you know more than we do about something you have never experienced.
 
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Teaching degrees should be free if they do go on to teach. That's a tough job for the pay.
Or just have people stop getting the degrees.

Problem will solve itself and either....
1) they will taper back degree requirements to increase the supply pool
2);they will increase pay from the lack of supply.
 

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I'm finishing up my junior year of high school, but I actually should be graduating this year. My birthday's October 5th, 2003, and the state where I live has a winter cutoff, which means that I was supposed to start Kindergarten in the fall of 2008. However, because my parents thought I was immature and didn't have a lot of confidence in me, they waited until the fall of 2009 to send me. All through school, I've felt embarrassed about being a year behind, and out-of-place for being more than a year older than some of my classmates. The thing is, though, that most states have a September cutoff, which means that in most states, I wouldn't have been allowed to start Kindergarten until the fall of 2009. Thus, by the standards of most states, I'm in the right grade. If I went to college in a state with a September cutoff, I'd be exactly in the year I'm supposed to be in, and there wouldn't be anything weird about turning 19 in October of my freshman year, since that's the norm for October-born people in that state. I'd still be one of the very oldest, but I'd still fall within the normal age range for my year. I know this seems crazy, but lately, nothing has been more important to me than being normal and fitting in.

You ABSOLUTELY should do this. If you're stupid enough smart enough to join a computer-oriented discussion forum just to ask this question, no doubt you'll have all the big ivy league colleges begging you to attend their schools. Neverr mind the student loan problems...I'm sure you're so smart that paying them back will be a breeze.
 

zinfamous

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wait a second...are you also hoping to learn how to "make GPUs" and also have some strange fascination and desire to have a specific club for everyone that was born on the same day and year?


hmmm
 

highland145

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Or just have people stop getting the degrees.

Problem will solve itself and either....
1) they will taper back degree requirements to increase the supply pool
2);they will increase pay from the lack of supply.
Here, the teachers catch it from admin, parents and little shits in their room. We have a serious shortage...good and well deserved.