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Should i get my navel pierced?

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Lifer
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What is a "tribal" tattoo? I always hear people talk about it but I have no idea what it refers to.
 

monckywrench

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Do what thou will, and if anyone else does not like it then gently suggest they bite a fart. Piercing or tattos are such a personal choice that the only legit advice I can give is to get a quality job from a reputable, clean artist. This may indeed be a "tatooed, pierced biker dood in a sleazy shop in a seedy part of town". Some of the best people I've known fit that description. :p
 

Ladi

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Apr 21, 2000
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Beautiful example of a tribal tatt here. More here (by the other guy I trust to put a needle to my skin) and here (yet another artist at the shop I like).

And yes, they are and can be extremely "trendy" -- so make sure you get a tatt or piercing for the _right_ reasons: you want one for yourself, not because it will make you "cool" or so you can "fit in" or even as an act of active rebellion. Bodymods can be gotten for very mature reasons and choosing them and getting them should be the result of some serious thinking and research. Even a piercing can have permanent side effects (scarring and/or a slight lump where the piercing was is common). Get one because you want to extend part of your personal self into the outside world, not because you *have* to show it off to everyone or because you think it's just something fun to do. There's a reason many people with bodymods look silly, as if they're forcing what they're trying to "say" by being overly extreme or trendy while other people look as if their metal or ink is a true part of them that "belongs" to their body and looks "right."

~Ladi
 

sweetrobin

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If you have to ask someone else whether to do it or not ... you probably aren't ready for it . I only have mye ears pierced so I'm not really into piercings so much ... but I do have a tattoo. My whole life ever since I was a little child I've been fascinated by tattoos. The artistic and beautiful ones that have meaning especially. I always told my mother and father that if I ever could think og one thing that I could be happy with the rest of my life that I would get a tattoo. My parents didn't like that at all ... especially my father. When my best friend and I were 19 and 20 we decided that we wanted to get matching tattoos to symbolize the spirit of our friendship. We decided on matching monarch butterfly tattoos. We chose butterflies because they are the symbol that most represents free spirits, which we both are, and we chose Monarch because they are rare and beautiful like our friendship. My tattoo is on my right shoulder blade where I can reveal or conceil it as I wish. I have had it 3 years come Feb. 22nd and have never regretted it for a moment. My mom has even where she likes it (although the fact that it will show when I'm wearing my wedding dress isn't exactly to her taste). No matter where I go or where Melissa goes we will always have a connection. The best thing about my tattoo is I did it when I was single, and I did it for me nto whether or not men would find it sexy. As for the guys I've dated ... most have thought it was sexy, some didn't care one way or the other. I don't know how E_mc_2 feels about it ... we've never really discussed it. I've mentioned possibly getting another tattoo after we have children (with their names and something else) ... he's kind of against it I think ... but we will see how it goes.
 

DefRef

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Nov 9, 2000
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Ah, that explains your hypersensitivity to my comments. I don't know (and don't presume to know) why you got your ink, but I wasn't attacking YOU personally. (How could I?)

To quote Ladi: "Bodymods can be gotten for very mature reasons and choosing them and getting them should be the result of some serious thinking and research...Get one because you want to extend part of your personal self into the outside world, not because you *have* to show it off to everyone or because you think it's just something fun to do"

I've seen some really impressive inks and I also have a friend who during her nutso teen-age years did about a dozen needle and ink DIY tattoo all over her body, stomach, thighs, etc. She's in the process of getting them covered, but she did so much damage that she's gonna be serious constrained in her clothing choices. She's only 20 now, but she's gonna have to pay for these rash actions for the rest of her life.

Also, where I worked about 7 years ago, EVERYONE went all fad and got tatts. They held tattoo parties (that's a good idea: combine booze and peer pressure to make a permanent decision) and got various yin-yang, peace signs, etc. By the time they were done, I was the only one under 30 WITHOUT ink.

This dates me a bit, but remember when NEON was all the rage back in the 80s? A lot of people got neon sweaters, leg warmers (another great trend!), etc. and it was THE thing for about...15 minutes.

Difference is, you can put dumb clothes in the closet, in a garage sale or in the trash. But, a ill-considered ink decision, a pierced head or a streched out earlobe is a bit harder to deal with and may require plastic surgery to repair. That must be taking into consideration, like Ladi said.

Hope this clarifies my comments. If it means something to you and you feel it's more that just a trendy graphic design, that's cool. It's your skin and life, do with it what you wish.
 

Isla

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<< Do what thou will, and if anyone else does not like it then gently suggest they bite a fart. >>



oh my my my my.... Methinks I have a new sig!

:D :D :D
 

fir3wir3

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defref

I agree w/ you partially...I just dont think you can say &quot;its retarded&quot; and especially if its a custom design that means something to me.

And I have no pity for people who are upset about their tattoos years later.

Thats why the other day when someone was on here asking for ideas for their next tattoo, I told them they arent a real good canidate for a tat...its something that means something to you.

It's just like people who get their favorite sports team, band, or their girlfriend of 6 months name on them. Its 90 percent chance they'll hate it in 5 years...or less.

so I understand where you're coming from...but dont call what I love &quot;Retarded&quot; not just tribal tattoos...but body art.
 

Ladi

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It's always nice to hear someone who doesn't particularly like tatts/piercing agree on the reasons behind body art and that some of it can be great stuff...thanks, DefRef ;) Especially since I believe that yes, lots of tattoos out there are silly. I'm still in college and just walking down the hall any time of the day reveals some, whel...STUPID tattoos that people got the day they turned 18 just because they could. (sXe logos on the outside of a hairy calf just don't do it for me, sorry ;)) Granted, I turned 18 all of 2 days before I had my tattoo done, so there must be some people who think about their ink before they're 18, but by and large...I see some ugly tatts people are gonna regret before they graduate.

Besides...DIY (with the wrong tools) and drinking is bad for the same reasons operating on yourself is bad: you don't know enough to do things properly (most tattoo artists and piercers are still trained by long apprenticeships and taught more about practical anatomy and skin structure than most people will ever care about) and alcohol thins the blood (not a good thing to happen when you're having a hole put through part of your body, for instance). I'm willing to bet those drunken tatts didn't turn out to well either, but then.. I wouldn't expect surgery to turn out too good under those circumstances. When it comes down to it, a minor *invasive* medical procedure is being performed...for cosmetic reasons, yes, but it's still a needle breaking the skin and leaving something behind.

~Ladi
 

DefRef

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The reason I made my comment about &quot;retarded lemmings&quot; is because I moonlight as a doorman at a club sometimes and I see ALL KINDS coming through from punks and rockabilly fans to dopey, suburban twits who got their ink at Lollapalooza in between the Breeders and Beastie Boys sets.

In the past few years, I've seen so many trendy things come and go from tattoos to piercing to BRANDING (I know a guy who had this done) and have heard about scarification and minor amputations:Q for the kid who wants to look like a Yakuza who screwed up. (I've been waiting for suicide to catch on.)

Lately, this earlobe thing seems to be getting big (no pun intended) and I have no idea why a surburban white kid would choose to look like an Ubangee warrior. In Africa, they have a culture and tradition of such practices (along with female genital mutilation), but I can't understand how it could be relevant to these brats driving Mom's minivan hand-me-downs. It's purely to shock, but it's THEM who will be getting a shock later.

My girlfriend has two tattoos: a runic symbol above her ankle and a DIY cross that she had covered over as a dagger (like they use in books when they've used too many asterisks). It's only 1-1/2&quot; long on her arm above her wrist and she wear so many silver bracelets, my Mom didn't notice that she even had it for YEARS. She plans on getting a series of small cartoon characters (Bad Badta Maru, M&amp;M guy, Pikachu [trying to nix this one], Buttercup from the Powerpuff Girls; she's a toy collector) done, but that's about it.

I'm not against body art (it CAN be art) in general, I just don't have the need or desire to modify myself. Don't be so defensive.
 

MrAnderson

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If you have a sexy stomach, do it! It makes it even better. But don't do it for others, do it for yourself :)