Think I'm gonna order through the Apple store. I can get a fairly good deal there. Thanks for the offer though.
That's a horrible deal for the specs you're getting PC wise, LED included. I thought you were going the Thinkpad route in the other forum. May I ask why you decided to pay the cool tax?
Also, you stated in another topic that you wanted to be able to play some games, has this now changed? It only comes with integrated x3100 right?
Just looking at different options. I can easily upgrade that RAM to 4GB for about $50 bucks. And no I won't be doing INTENSE gaming, just basic stuff that this vid card can handle.
Also would have OS x and Windows on the Macbook, so I think it's a good price comparitively speaking.
I never said intense gaming, I meant any gaming. Also, I'm assuming that's a new macbook with the new Penryn chips. Remember, you're getting only 3MB of L2 cache(2.4GHz=T8300) as opposed to the 6MB found on &9xxx series chips. Also the drive is only 160GB @ 5400 and will be the bottleneck of your rig. I'm not sure what the comment about RAM is referring to.
The same specs would run you around $750 on a 14.1" Widescreen or Standard(I suggest this for docs) T-series. Dell also has amazing rebates currently on Vostros. You can even get one with Linux installed and put windows on that like you would on the macbook.
The same specs would run you around $750 on a 14.1" Widescreen or Standard(I suggest this for docs) T-series. Dell also has amazing rebates currently on Vostros. You can even get one with Linux installed and put windows on that like you would on the macbook.
What's the big deal? He wanted to explore other options, including Macs, and you have to come all the way to the Mac forum to point out that Vostros are allegedly cheaper and Thinkpads are allegedly better?
Office 2008 is a native Mac application. While some hate it, I like it. Seems to handle my older PowerPoints (done on PC) better than Office 2004.
For serious college work (or any work), you *must* be joking!
A Hackintosh - every time you update it, you've got to cross your fingers that Software Update you just did won't kill your entire machine. You can't guarantee that you'll _ever_ be able to get software updates. Aperture requires 10.5.2 - and you can't run it because you can't update your HackAMac (or, best case, it's risky) - what a waste.
If there's ever a problem, Apple won't support you. I can just imagine it - your most important documents, your work from the past week, your term paper, whatever - stuck on your hard drive and useless because the HackAMac won't boot.
Just buy the real thing. They're not that much more, and they're worth it, and they tend to hold their value very, very well. With EDU discounts they're almost competitive.
I purchased my first mac, a Macbook. It's OK. I use it mostly with Windows XP.
I wanted to give Apple a try. This is probably the last Apple I buy.
1. I have had problems trying to get compatible memory for it.(I am not spending $600 dollars to upgrade with Apple memory)
2. The trackpad on the macbook sucks! It is very jumpy and only has ONE button!
3. There is not hard drive activity light.
4. I have had some crashing issues(Gray screen of death on the OS X side). So far no crashes on the Windows XP partition.
5. No support for my Samsung Laser printer in OS X.
6. There is more freeware and opensource software on the Windows side. It seems everytime I'm looking for an app for OS X, someone is changing for it.
There have been other issues, but the above are the biggest.
If you are going to be mainly using the Windows software get a Windows based machine. Again a single button track pad, are you kidding?(BTW OS X support a multi-button mouse)
I wanted to give Apple a try. This is probably the last Apple I buy.
1. I have had problems trying to get compatible memory for it.(I am not spending $600 dollars to upgrade with Apple memory)
2. The trackpad on the macbook sucks! It is very jumpy and only has ONE button!
3. There is not hard drive activity light.
4. I have had some crashing issues(Gray screen of death on the OS X side). So far no crashes on the Windows XP partition.
5. No support for my Samsung Laser printer in OS X.
6. There is more freeware and opensource software on the Windows side. It seems everytime I'm looking for an app for OS X, someone is changing for it.
There have been other issues, but the above are the biggest.
If you are going to be mainly using the Windows software get a Windows based machine. Again a single button track pad, are you kidding?(BTW OS X support a multi-button mouse)
hmmm... That's weird... I just priced a T61 14.1" with equivalent specs to the MacBook and came up with 1068 compared to the base MacBook of 1099.
If I go with a mid-level MB it's 1150 vs 1299. That's better for your argument I suppose. The Blackbook is the worst deal running 1499 vs a T61 @ 1214, but I think everyone here will acknowledge that Apple is price gouging for a color.
But thats a pretty far cry from $749 you originally quotes, and that's with out counting the value-added software Apple gives you (because to some people, like myself, it's worthless).
Now the Dell Vostro seems to be a better deal. 1024 for something compareable to the entry level MB and 1274 for the high-end level, with a dedicated GF8400GS to boot.
Either way, it's hardly the price difference you're quoting for an equivalent system.
Allow me:
1) Any notebook DDR2 memory works. You can get 4GB 2x2GB from just about anywhere for 80 bucks. I bought a similar kit from newegg that's OCZ branded.
2) Slight correction: The windows drivers for the trackpad suck. The trackpad works great in OS X. Still Apple's fault but not a problem with the trackpad itself. Also, the next time you need to right-click, just press two fingers on the trackpad and click the one button. Instant right-click. This needs to be fixed in Apple's drivers so that it works more like it does in OS X. I want to just tap the two fingers for a right click instead of having to hit the button. But yeah, the drivers for that are Apple's fault.
3) I agree on this point. But you can download software to emulate a hard drive activity light. I understand why Apple doesn't have one, I just don't agree with it.
4) Can't really comment on this one. Probably a problem with an app or something, just like it usually is in Windows.
5) Samsung's fault, not Apple's.
6) This is really odd... You understand you can compile and run anything for Linux with OS X right? That OS X is essentially BSD with a graphical interface?
I'm really thinking about holding off till the summer when the Macbooks get updated...hoping for 2.5ghz...
Can anyone convince me otherwise..?
Can anyone convince me otherwise..?
Tommyz,
You're confused.
- The Macbook uses dead-standard PC5300 - DDR2 RAM. The same as what my HP laptop uses (and the Dells at work, etc). There is absolutely no difference. What makes you think the RAM isn't dead-standard?
- Trackpads on the Mac are excellent. You need to learn how to use different methods on the Mac, and one of those is two-finger clicks, which are essentially right-button clicks.
- Software can give you a HDD activity light.
- If the machine crashes, take it to Apple, no questions asked!
- Samsung actually has good Mac support. Which Samsung laser? (Lasers are $100 these days; this isn't a big deal for most people.)
- Can't help you with open source; I find the Mac shareware super-high quality and very innovative.
Originally posted by: dfdave12
I'm really thinking about holding off till the summer when the Macbooks get updated...hoping for 2.5ghz...
Can anyone convince me otherwise..?
The speed difference is likely to be incredibly marginal, so why bother waiting?
Well, if you don't need it, I would wait no later than the beginning of July. That way it gives you about a month to get familiar with the OS and how it all interacts. Personally, I think you'll be fine if you buy one now, but if you can wait, they MIGHT update before August, but I doubt it. We'll see.. though..
I'm calling you out on this one. The ONLY way you're getting more freeware on the Windows side is if you're pirating your software. I find the exact same, sometimes more, on the OS X front. Not only that, but the freeware in OS X actually works whereas in Windows it was always hit or miss for me. Plus the software that people do charge for is supported so well, that it's worth buying.
This point alone made buying a Mac FTW.
A couple of months ago my MagSafe adapter was being retarded, so I made an appointment down to the Apple store. Never mind that I didn't buy the extended AppleCare warranty, the Macbook wasn't even purchased in the same state (bought it from university computer store back in CA), and they swapped me out with a brand new one right away. Wasn't a refurbished part either, an unopened box was taken right off the shelf, opened and exchanged with my faulty one.
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