Should I buy a 9800 Pro?

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ZL1

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Originally posted by: effee
Thanks for you help, btw how did you know it was an R350 core? =p its a pity it isnt R360..

your sysoft printout has a line reading

"OEM Device Name : ATI Technologies Radeon 9800 Pro (R350)"



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Delorian

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Originally posted by: ZL1
Originally posted by: effee
Thanks for you help, btw how did you know it was an R350 core? =p its a pity it isnt R360..

your sysoft printout has a line reading

"OEM Device Name : ATI Technologies Radeon 9800 Pro (R350)"



D

beat me to it :) That's not a gaurantee though. Some software will report an R350 when an R360 is really present and vice-versa. The only true way to tell is to pull the HSF off the card and look at the silk-screening on the GPU itself
 

MoosKnuk

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I have a 9800xt at home and a 6800 non ultra at work. In benchmarking i see the 6800 system running about 25 - 30 percent faster. Also the nv drivers seem more stable.

note the 9800 xt is on nf2 athlon 2500 and 6800 is on nf3 a64 3500
 

blacktankofhopelessness

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beat me to it That's not a gaurantee though. Some software will report an R350 when an R360 is really present and vice-versa. The only true way to tell is to pull the HSF off the card and look at the silk-screening on the GPU itself

Indeed. Ati Tool reported my Sapphire Atlantis 9800 Pro with a r350 core, but when I switched to a better heatsink it said r360 on the core. Don't trust ANY program telling you what core you have, the ONLY way to be sure is to remove the hsf and check for yourself. Ati Tool and such programs read the core-information from the BIOS so the reported core depends on that.

By the way. Sapphire Atlantis 9800 Pro-cards NEVER have 128bit memory. Only 9800 Non-pros.
 

Delorian

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Originally posted by: blacktankofhopelessness
beat me to it That's not a gaurantee though. Some software will report an R350 when an R360 is really present and vice-versa. The only true way to tell is to pull the HSF off the card and look at the silk-screening on the GPU itself

Indeed. Ati Tool reported my Sapphire Atlantis 9800 Pro with a r350 core, but when I switched to a better heatsink it said r360 on the core. Don't trust ANY program telling you what core you have, the ONLY way to be sure is to remove the hsf and check for yourself. Ati Tool and such programs read the core-information from the BIOS so the reported core depends on that.

By the way. Sapphire Atlantis 9800 Pro-cards NEVER have 128bit memory. Only 9800 Non-pros.

Congrats, I didn't know you found out that you had a R360! Gonna flash it?
 

Greg04

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Bit the bullet and bought the refurbed High Tech 9800 pro from newegg...thanks
 

Avalon

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Originally posted by: Greg04
Bit the bullet and bought the refurbed High Tech 9800 pro from newegg...thanks

Was going to say, if you could manage to spend an extra $50, then the BFG 6800 vanilla OC could be had for $249 on outpost.com, here. Comes with the bonus of possibly softmodding to a lite version of a 6800GT.
 

xbassman

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Originally posted by: Greg04
Bit the bullet and bought the refurbed High Tech 9800 pro from newegg...thanks

As did I, a few months ago....
You won't regret it. Mine came in a generic white box. It appeared to ber a manfacturer refurb, not a returned item. Make sure to test it quickly warranty = 2 weeks.
 

Greg04

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Originally posted by: xbassman
Originally posted by: Greg04
Bit the bullet and bought the refurbed High Tech 9800 pro from newegg...thanks

As did I, a few months ago....
You won't regret it. Mine came in a generic white box. It appeared to ber a manfacturer refurb, not a returned item. Make sure to test it quickly warranty = 2 weeks.



Arrrggghhhh. Artifacts all over the place. Card seizes whenever you do anything more than move the mouse. Newegg has some splaining to do...well, pack it up and ship it back.
 

Cipherous

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I just bought a ATI radeon 9800 pro from bestbuy for 180 without tax,

how can I tell if I have a 350 or 360 core? The heat sink is the shape of a parallelogram.


thanks in advance
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Greg04
Originally posted by: xbassman
Originally posted by: Greg04
Bit the bullet and bought the refurbed High Tech 9800 pro from newegg...thanks

As did I, a few months ago....
You won't regret it. Mine came in a generic white box. It appeared to ber a manfacturer refurb, not a returned item. Make sure to test it quickly warranty = 2 weeks.



Arrrggghhhh. Artifacts all over the place. Card seizes whenever you do anything more than move the mouse. Newegg has some splaining to do...well, pack it up and ship it back.

I didn't see where you said what card you had b4 the refurb 9800pro, but did you run DriverCleaner or Driver detonator to get rid of old driver fragments?
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Cipherous
I just bought a ATI radeon 9800 pro from bestbuy for 180 without tax,

how can I tell if I have a 350 or 360 core? The heat sink is the shape of a parallelogram.


thanks in advance

I'm hearing the only dependable way is to remove the heatsink and see what the core says. Voids your warranty though.
 

Greg04

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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Greg04
Originally posted by: xbassman
Originally posted by: Greg04
Bit the bullet and bought the refurbed High Tech 9800 pro from newegg...thanks

As did I, a few months ago....
You won't regret it. Mine came in a generic white box. It appeared to ber a manfacturer refurb, not a returned item. Make sure to test it quickly warranty = 2 weeks.



Arrrggghhhh. Artifacts all over the place. Card seizes whenever you do anything more than move the mouse. Newegg has some splaining to do...well, pack it up and ship it back.

I didn't see where you said what card you had b4 the refurb 9800pro, but did you run DriverCleaner or Driver detonator to get rid of old driver fragments?



thanks, I ran the card on two systems. One was brand new (fresh windows install) the artifacts showed up on both identically.
 

xbassman

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With the refurb card I bought @ NewEgg....
I was using onboard GF-4 graphics....
I ran Driver Cleaner3, then installed card, reinstalled Nvidia chipset drivers and installed Catalyst Drivers.

No artifacts, nor problems at all.
I was running Catalyst 4.6, now on 4.9.
 

Greg04

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Originally posted by: Greg04
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Greg04
Originally posted by: xbassman
Originally posted by: Greg04
Bit the bullet and bought the refurbed High Tech 9800 pro from newegg...thanks

As did I, a few months ago....
You won't regret it. Mine came in a generic white box. It appeared to ber a manfacturer refurb, not a returned item. Make sure to test it quickly warranty = 2 weeks.



Arrrggghhhh. Artifacts all over the place. Card seizes whenever you do anything more than move the mouse. Newegg has some splaining to do...well, pack it up and ship it back.

I didn't see where you said what card you had b4 the refurb 9800pro, but did you run DriverCleaner or Driver detonator to get rid of old driver fragments?


Being a glutton fro lost money, I bought the retail version...


thanks, I ran the card on two systems. One was brand new (fresh windows install) the artifacts showed up on both identically.