Should former president Bush be tried of international war crimes?

[irishScott]

Posting in an Anarchist420 thr... wait..

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Those who oppose this strictly on the basis of not wanting Bush prosecuted no matter how guilty of crimes simply on the basis of 'we do what we want' are a menace to peace unfit to be citizens, irresponsible and immoral, the very sorts who should not have a say on power, which they abuse.

Why the heck aren't you holding the "immoral" Democrats feet to the fire? They who had complete control of government and should have shoved until something gave? Because of fear of Republicans? Hell that didn't stop them with health care. We know the Reps wouldn't do anything, but one thing some of us hoped for that the Dems would follow up with their harsh criticism, but when the elections were over they had no reason to. It didn't suit their agenda.

We won't be fooled again.

 

[wuliheron]

We won't be fooled again.

Keep telling yourself that. I have some wonderful swampland cheap if you're interested.

 

[wuliheron]

Alot of morons here. One says gas hasn't been $1 since 80's. Another moron says we are governed by international laws, not to mention the other 38 idiots.

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[bfdd]

Keep telling yourself that. I have some wonderful swampland cheap if you're interested.

Says the guy who thinks voting for anyone besides top R's or D's is voting for the "loser".

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I vote we go for a four day multimedia event detailing digging up Ronald Reagan and reburying him in an unmarked grave in paupers field for treason.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Keep telling yourself that. I have some wonderful swampland cheap if you're interested.

"We" doesn't apply to everyone, but to those of us who thought there was a fair chance of an investigation. Since the issue has been pointedly dismissed the lesson has been learned by some. That would be "us".

"We won't be fooled again" was a song from decades back, and of course the majority "we" were and in that you would be correct. They'll be mislead time and again.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I vote we go for a four day multimedia event detailing digging up Ronald Reagan and reburying him in an unmarked grave in paupers field for treason.

Everyone needs a hobby.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Everyone needs a hobby.

Nixon was a petty thief compared to Uncle Ronnie.

 

[Steeplerot]

roast his ass, along with the rest of the GOP enablers.

But then, oops, he didnt get a blowjob, so impeaching him would be needlessly partisan, its only people getting killed.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Nixon was a petty thief compared to Uncle Ronnie.

Worst of the lot in recent times was LBJ. The stuff he got away with in TX was astounding.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

roast his ass, along with the rest of the GOP enablers.

But then, oops, he didnt get a blowjob, so impeaching him would be needlessly partisan, its only people getting killed.

Call your Congressman.

 

[Craig234]

Why the heck aren't you holding the "immoral" Democrats feet to the fire? They who had complete control of government and should have shoved until something gave? Because of fear of Republicans? Hell that didn't stop them with health care. We know the Reps wouldn't do anything, but one thing some of us hoped for that the Dems would follow up with their harsh criticism, but when the elections were over they had no reason to. It didn't suit their agenda.

We won't be fooled again.

Don't try to equate falsely starting an aggressive, illegal war with the Democrats' failures to do other things.

The Democrats have failed to do a number of things they should - with basically all Republicans on the side not to do them.

But your logic of 'vote for the people who REALLY support doing wrong because the Democrats did SOME wrong' is bad.

If you don't want to attack Canada, a Republican wants to wipe them out with nukes, and a Democrat launches cruise missiles, do you say "Dem sucks, elect the Rep!"?

If Republicans want to ban gay marriages and civil unions, ban gays in the military, end all funding for AIDS research and care, outlaw any gay characters in shows on public airwaves with 'obscenity' laws, ban any mention of gays in public schools, and re-criminalize homosexual sex, and Democrats fail to legalize gay marriage, do you say 'Dem sucks on gay rights, elect the Republican'?

Pointing out how wrong you are to apparently call for not electing the Dems, and electing the Repubs instead, over the Dems' bad actions, is not the same as saying the Dems are not wrong on some things. It's saying that the fact they are is not a reason to elect the people who are WORSE.

President Al Gore would not have started the war with Iraq.

You can criticize Dems for that if you want - the problem of leaving Saddam in power, as Clinton did by ignoring the people who would soon take over the government who publicly asked him to start a war - but you can't defend the Republicans starting the war illegally with lesser wrongs by Dems over other issues. If Repubs were standing for morality and opposing Dems on things like torture, you could, but they are not - they are far more strongly supporting it.

You can't have it both ways, calling for the election of the biggest torturers, and attacking Dems for not being perfect on the issue.

stand against torture before you can attack Dems for not doing so - and then don't call for the election of Republicans who support it.

 

[Steeplerot]

Call your Congressman.

Pelosi wouldn't piss on a working class constuent if we were on fire. She is a top of the hill type.
To ask her to have backbone is silly. C'mon.

 

[wuliheron]

"We" doesn't apply to everyone, but to those of us who thought there was a fair chance of an investigation. Since the issue has been pointedly dismissed the lesson has been learned by some. That would be "us".

"We won't be fooled again" was a song from decades back, and of course the majority "we" were and in that you would be correct. They'll be mislead time and again.

There's no fool like one convinced they can't be fooled.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

There's no fool like one convinced they can't be fooled.

Perhaps you have the habit of repeating the same mistakes over and over. I make an effort not to. Will I be fooled? At some time but not about this. Iraq is a situation where a war was most likely based on false pretenses and there was some reason to think it would have been addressed. That has proved not to be the case. Lesson learned, at least by some.

 

[waggy]

depends. is Obama going to? he is continuing the "illegal" war. Are they going to go after EVERYONE who voted for the war?

or is this just more irrational hatred of bush instead of actually holding EVERYONE (no matter party) to responsibility?

 

[soccerballtux]

they have to charge Obama too, he hasn't shut down Gitmo but has kept it open contrary to the numerous election promises he made.

Media of course won't hold him accountable to it.

 

[piasabird]

The needless war in Iraq was approved by the congress of the United States of America. So he would have to indict every person that voted for the War!

 

[Anarchist420]

I think Congress should do a real investigation of 9/11 and sentence all of the leading neocons (including Obama) to death by hanging. They were public tyrants, so I don't mind the death penalty for them. It bothers me that if someone were to kill them, the person who killed them would be executed and not the leading neocons.

When I say leading neocons who need to be hanged, they include, but are not limited to, Scooter Libby, Lindsey Graham, Joe Lieberman, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Dick Cheney, McCain, Bush43, Bush41, Marvin Bush, Neil Bush, Robert Gates, Powell, Rice, Wolfowitz and everyone else who was a member of PNAC.

 

[bfdd]

roast his ass, along with the rest of the GOP enablers.

But then, oops, he didnt get a blowjob, so impeaching him would be needlessly partisan, its only people getting killed.

Fry all the dems that backed his war on terror too! I mean it's not like we have a sole ruling party in this country. We have two shitty parties in this country.

 

[airdata]

Wasn't it dick cheney who recently couldn't travel abroad because he would be arrested for crimes against humanity?

 

[ky54]

I find these types of discussions where it is decidedly driven by partisan politics the same as the ones based on Bush wasn't legit because he "stole" the election. Well, if that was true then he was never president hence you can't prosecute him for war crimes. As has been stated many times that the majority of Democrats voted twice to authorize force against Iraq along with the boatload of UN resolutions saying the same. All of them have to be prosecuted as co-conspirators along with Obama and Biden who, in 2 1/2 years, not only kept us in Iraq and Afghanistan but unilaterally started a war in Libya WITHOUT congressional approval. Not even the hated Bush did that.

This is all just so much hack political politics.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Funny how liberals condon the death penalty if it's a poor black guy, but they're more than happy to kill rich white people.

 

[wuliheron]

Funny how liberals condon the death penalty if it's a poor black guy, but they're more than happy to kill rich white people.

I don't care what color they are, just being a rich asshole who thinks they can get away with anything is enough for me. If anything, all that wealth should come with great responsibility and terrible consequences.