Should Dems pick a new candidate?

[Stunt]

Hey guys, i'm not american but i feel that for the well being of the United States and the rest of the world that it is important to make sure Bush is ousted this election.

Now Kerry appears to have a huge following from democrats but fact of the matter is that the people that voted kerry in the primaries were people that were left leaning people and not centrists. If the dems are going to oust bush, they need to appeal to centrists.

This convention has all the delegates that the primaries nominated. Should they vote out kerry?
The reason i bring this up is because a US station mentioned it as an option, i was wondering how you guys felt on the topic.

The bush campagin has wasted a lot of money making kerry out to be a bad choice, he has yet to show some vision and is not likely to appeal to republicans.

Me personally was an Edwards believer, i really enjoyed the stuff he had to say and he did appeal to more centrists, and would also get the left vote as dems would never vote bush!

Any original kerry supporters/voters that would like to see a fresh face or any moderate bush lovers willing to vote in a dem candidate if it was someone other than kerry?

 

[RabidMongoose]

It's too late to pick someone else. Kerry sucks, but at least he's not Bush.

It feels like this is a world-wide election!

Will there be celebrating all over the world if Bush loses?

Pre-emptive 'yeah celebrating in north korea! arrgghhh!'

 

[burnedout]

I'd vote for Wesley Clark in a heartbeat.

Even though I sometimes make critical comments about Senator Kerry, I still may vote for him.

 

[Stunt]

Yeah right, US is spread too thin, if they wanted to invade korea they couldnt, besides korea really does have nukes, unlike iraq, and the US could get in deep trouble with that. (bombings in south korea and japan) not cool

 

[CanOWorms]

I don't like Kerry that much, but I'll vote for him to get Bush out. I liked Clark the best, too.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Stunt
Yeah right, US is spread too thin, if they wanted to invade korea they couldnt, besides korea really does have nukes, unlike iraq, and the US could get in deep trouble with that. (bombings in south korea and japan) not cool

No, I'm not saying that the US is going to invade North Korea...just that I stated people will celebrate all around the world if Bush loses and I said that NK statement as a joke before some Bush supporter says it as it's been said before.

 

[wkabel23]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I don't like Kerry that much, but I'll vote for him to get Bush out. I liked Clark the best, too.

My feelings as well.

 

[bozack]

I always love the "anyone but Bush" mentality, even if the "anyone" is possibly one of the most liberal, wish washy people there is that is buddy buddy with slimeballs like Ted Kennedy...

 

[SuperTool]

LOL. The lefties voted for Dean, not Kerry.
I don't particularly care for Kerry personally, but Democrats would have to really try hard to nominate someone who I wouldn't vote for, considering the alternative.
Kerry is polling pretty well, and it's not because of his personality. People are just fed up with Bush and want a change.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: bozack
I always love the "anyone but Bush" mentality, even if the "anyone" is possibly one of the most liberal, wish washy people there is that is buddy buddy with slimeballs like Ted Kennedy...

There is still a GOP congress. Rightwing congress plus leftwing president means only moderate policies will get through.
Right now we have an evenly split country that is being ruled by a rightwing government.

 

[Stunt]

Exactly, it's close with a sitting president that has been one of the absolute worst presidents ever!
Thats worse than Gore not getting in after the great condition Clinton left it.
We need a candidate that can appeal to people and get behind him, not this bullsh!t recound stuff again, which you know is going to happen in a close race.
And left supporters?...try Kucinich...haha...besides there are way more left leaning dems than there are ppl voting dean...heh

 

[sMiLeYz]

I think despite what people say, Kerry is a good choice for president. He's not as suave as Edwards, nor has he got the credentials of Clark, nor the interne grassroots support nor the hype dean built up. Kerry has experience in the senate and hes a born leader. The guy has a firm grasp on the issues as well.

 

[chess9]

Someone needs to rescue the Democratic Party from itself. Kerry is a nightmare. He may be the worst candidate for the Democrats since, er, CLINTON! Actually, Clinton was a heck of lot better than Bush. Er, well, ok, he was a little better. Er, well, ok he was a really dumb schmuck for the Lewinsky stunt, but hey a guy has NEEDS.

Please, bring back Howard Dean or pray that Bush contracts a severe anal rash/diarrhea before the Repbulican National Convention and finds all he can do is RUN and they nominate McCain. I'd love to hear how McCain will get us out of Iraq. Maybe he'd fizzle this time, but you gotta' love the guy.

In fact, I sent Governor Dean an email telling him I couldn't bring myself to contribute to Kerry as yet. After my pre-frontal lobotomy I will probably be in the mood.

-Robert

 

[Stunt]

I agree...but i question his ability to appeal to centrist republicans.
Also he is a long time politician who will be a tough sell as in touch with the average american.
not saying that bush is either.
just seems like it is a vote for not bush, rather for kerry which is not good

 

[Ozoned]

It's too late to pick someone else.

 

[SuperTool]

He doesn't need to appeal to centrist republicans. He needs to appeal to centrist independents.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
He doesn't need to appeal to centrist republicans. He needs to appeal to centrist independents.

He needs to appeal to his cosmetologist for more botox injections.

WTF

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
There is still a GOP congress. Rightwing congress plus leftwing president means only moderate policies will get through.
Right now we have an evenly split country that is being ruled by a rightwing government.

what does this have to do with my response? personally I would much rather have the current state of affairs than a meatball like Kerry and his cronies in power.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: chess9
Someone needs to rescue the Democratic Party from itself. Kerry is a nightmare. He may be the worst candidate for the Democrats since, er, CLINTON! Actually, Clinton was a heck of lot better than Bush. Er, well, ok, he was a little better. Er, well, ok he was a really dumb schmuck for the Lewinsky stunt, but hey a guy has NEEDS.

Please, bring back Howard Dean or pray that Bush contracts a severe anal rash/diarrhea before the Repbulican National Convention and finds all he can do is RUN and they nominate McCain. I'd love to hear how McCain will get us out of Iraq. Maybe he'd fizzle this time, but you gotta' love the guy.

In fact, I sent Governor Dean an email telling him I couldn't bring myself to contribute to Kerry as yet. After my pre-frontal lobotomy I will probably be in the mood.

-Robert

how anyone could expect the Governor of one of the most liberal bass ackwards states in the country to be a good president is beyond me, especially one with so little presence and self control....I still think Edwards was the BEST thing the Dems had going for them when talking about taking a win, he was younger, charismatic, energetic, and great with public speaking, also down to earth enough so most could associate with him, not an uber hippie like dean or a snob like Kerry.

 

[Stunt]

thats the thing kerry has been known to be a loner relative to other senate officials.
He seems to be very level headed and open to discussion.
More than what we can say for Bush and HIS cronies...oh wait, cheney and rummsfield are level headed people, good thing we have those two in power.
*rolls eyes*

 

[Stunt]

I do agree with edwards, it would be tough to convince kerry to let him go for it but their stance on the policies are very similar, almost eerie.
Ah well what can you do

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Stunt
thats the thing kerry has been known to be a loner relative to other senate officials.
He seems to be very level headed and open to discussion.
More than what we can say for Bush and HIS cronies...oh wait, cheney and rummsfield are level headed people, good thing we have those two in power.
*rolls eyes*

What country are you from?

 

[Stunt]

Canada

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: chess9
Someone needs to rescue the Democratic Party from itself. Kerry is a nightmare. He may be the worst candidate for the Democrats since, er, CLINTON! Actually, Clinton was a heck of lot better than Bush. Er, well, ok, he was a little better. Er, well, ok he was a really dumb schmuck for the Lewinsky stunt, but hey a guy has NEEDS.

Please, bring back Howard Dean or pray that Bush contracts a severe anal rash/diarrhea before the Repbulican National Convention and finds all he can do is RUN and they nominate McCain. I'd love to hear how McCain will get us out of Iraq. Maybe he'd fizzle this time, but you gotta' love the guy.

In fact, I sent Governor Dean an email telling him I couldn't bring myself to contribute to Kerry as yet. After my pre-frontal lobotomy I will probably be in the mood.

-Robert

how anyone could expect the Governor of one of the most liberal bass ackwards states in the country to be a good president is beyond me, especially one with so little presence and self control....I still think Edwards was the BEST thing the Dems had going for them when talking about taking a win, he was younger, charismatic, energetic, and great with public speaking, also down to earth enough so most could associate with him, not an uber hippie like dean or a snob like Kerry.

How anyone could expect the Governor of a state where the governership is constitutionally the FIFTH most powerful elected office to be a good president is beyond me, especially one with so little verbal skills and personal responsibility...

Sorry that you don't get what millions of Americans saw in Howard Dean. But from someone who calls him an "uber hippie" from a "liberal bass ackwards" state (who knew ass backwards was associated with liberalism?), I'll let you go mad over it all you want.

As for Edwards replacing Kerry, it will never happen. Kerry won the primary season decisively, and there was a good reason he did so - he's a closer who wins when it counts.

Like I've said before, Kerry is playing a somewhat dangerous game of Rope-A-Dope. He'll try to get Bush to tire himeself out (both by spending money and using all his attack machine ammo) in the next several months, and in the last 2 rounds of the election season (September and October), Kerry will open up his war chest and unleash his own attack dogs.

Will it work? Probably. Its worked for him before. There's a good chance it'll work for him again.

 

[Stunt]

Attack dogs?...like his wife's $300million in assets?
hard to see how he can with the huge budget bush has.
maybe on a level playing field. He needs to campaign full out, now till the vote.