Should Bush Be Impeached

[destrekor]

love the ignorance of american people
bush is but a puppet of a corrupt government
the only thing bush can do, by himself, is send troops out for 90 days.
i am not aware of any other actions a president can do with the approval of the rest of the government. did bush alone make the patriot act? um... no

so before everyone accuses Bush of doing all these 'illegal' things, think about it for a minute: was it really only bush? under the circumstances (read: the current state of a corrupt government), bush is doing decent. he's not great, but when the government is in the shape it is currently in, he appears even better than he normally does.
don't attack the puppet, attack the puppeteer(s).

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: destrekor
love the ignorance of american people
bush is but a puppet of a corrupt government
the only thing bush can do, by himself, is send troops out for 90 days.
i am not aware of any other actions a president can do with the approval of the rest of the government. did bush alone make the patriot act? um... no

so before everyone accuses Bush of doing all these 'illegal' things, think about it for a minute: was it really only bush? under the circumstances (read: the current state of a corrupt government), bush is doing decent. he's not great, but when the government is in the shape it is currently in, he appears even better than he normally does.
don't attack the puppet, attack the puppeteer(s).

Speaking of ignorance....

Don't misunderestimate the Propagandist. He may speak like an idiot on TV but he knows damn good and well what he's doing.

 

[destrekor]

i definitly dont underestimate him
politicians are a sneaky breed
but im just getting the fact off my chest that people bother me that jump to the conclusion the president is the single point of all problems
more or less, he's really just the single point for all blame.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: BBond

How did you ever get to almost 18,000 posts with your penchant for personal attacks?

I'm a truth monger.

You wouldn't know the truth if Santa left it in your Christmas stocking.

You attack me like I support Bush and rant and rave about how great he is. I've clearly stated that I'm middle of the road, yet you still attack. You call me a liar, just like Darkhawk did, but I've said nothing, so how can I lie. You can be the winner in this fight.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: destrekor
i definitly dont underestimate him
politicians are a sneaky breed
but im just getting the fact off my chest that people bother me that jump to the conclusion the president is the single point of all problems
more or less, he's really just the single point for all blame.

It's under Bush's "leadership" that all of these scandals are occuring.

Who do you think is responsible if not the "chief executive"?

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: BBond

How did you ever get to almost 18,000 posts with your penchant for personal attacks?

I'm a truth monger.

You wouldn't know the truth if Santa left it in your Christmas stocking.

You attack me like I support Bush and rant and rave about how great he is. I've clearly stated that I'm middle of the road, yet you still attack. You call me a liar, just like Darkhawk did, but I've said nothing, so how can I lie. You can be the winner in this fight.

Exactly when and where did I "attack" you?

It is you who is defending the lies and illegal operations of the Bush administration. It is you who is forced to stoop to personal attacks, not me. 😉

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: BBond

It is you who is defending the lies and illegal operations of the Bush administration. It is you who is forced to stoop to personal attacks, not me. 😉

I'm not defending anyone. I'm just pointing out that you are a loon. There are better places to get your opinions out then Anandtech.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: wetech

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Err wrong. Why don't you turn off Fox News and read what all the "recounting" was about, then come back. Plus, it's already been confirmed that voting machines in FL were hacked in 2000.

confirmed by who? where are the charges of voter fraud (and I'm not talking about people b1tching, actual court charges filed).

newspapers in florida recounted the votes in every which way... every recount, Gore wins.

What in gods name are you talking about? Every recount showed BUSH winning. Go find me one link showing Gore won, there isn't any!

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: destrekor
i definitly dont underestimate him
politicians are a sneaky breed
but im just getting the fact off my chest that people bother me that jump to the conclusion the president is the single point of all problems
more or less, he's really just the single point for all blame.

He (and Rove behind the scenes) direct much of the GOP and enforce toeing the party line in the House and the Senate via DeLay (well, not him anymore) and Frist (and not so effectively anymore).

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: wetech

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Err wrong. Why don't you turn off Fox News and read what all the "recounting" was about, then come back. Plus, it's already been confirmed that voting machines in FL were hacked in 2000.

confirmed by who? where are the charges of voter fraud (and I'm not talking about people b1tching, actual court charges filed).

newspapers in florida recounted the votes in every which way... every recount, Gore wins.

What in gods name are you talking about? Every recount showed BUSH winning. Go find me one link showing Gore won, there isn't any!

Written by the Washington Post... 34 page analysis of full recounts (not partial ones)

 

[tommywishbone]

Impeach.

He invaded an innocent country and killed 32,000 people. Charge the Lunatic & his friends with murder, convict them all, and hang them.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
Impeach.

He invaded an innocent country and killed 32,000 people. Charge the Lunatic & his friends with murder, convict them all, and hang them.

if Bush Sr. or Clinton woulda fixed Iraq in the first place, it never would have had to happen.

and yes, it had to happen
and sure, its not just for their benefit
we completely benefit from the middle east being run under a democracy. oil trades would be better, but its not just that... if the terrorists suffer great losses, sure they will come back, but thats peace thats secured for some time. terrorism never dies. its how the system works. but securing peace, for no matter how long, is better than sitting and ignoring the situation.
and ousting saddam was necessary. hopefully they hang him when the trials are over. that man was a murderer, and every country should do what it can to oust any leader like that, no matter how far away that other country is.

 

[Taggart]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Taggart
Those activities are common to A LOT of countries throughout history.

Congratulations! You've figured out what's supposed to be different, here. A grateful nation would thank you if you'd support a continuation of those principles.

However, even if everything you said IS true, there is none of the murder, violence, racism, destruction of freedom of speech, destruction of the right of freedom of religion, etc. like Nazi Germany. That is where the comparison becomes ridiculous.

Der Führer Bush has already announced that he has fanasies of some absolute dictatorial power. He hasn't said exactly that since... let me think... Oh yeah... YESTERDAY! :|

How much freedom of speech so you have when der Führer Bush can have top secret spy agencies tap your phones, monitor your e-mail, etc with absolutely no warrant or other oversight to protect a citizen's Constitutional rights? :|

How "free" is your religion when der Führer Bush wants to impose the beliefs of his ultra-religious nut case supporters on those who do not believe as they do? :|

How much freedom of the press is there when the Bushwhackos load the dice with moron trolls like James Gannon/Jeff Gannon or bribe journalists to corrupt the media by planting bogus favorable articles? :|

How much freedom of speech do you have when der Führer Bush can attack anyone who tries to inform the public of his crimes by leaking the name of a covert CIA operative to sycophant parrots like Robert Novak? :|

That's all right out of Hitler's propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbles playbook, as well as his own writings in Mein Kamf. Karl Rove is Bush's Goebbles. :|

You can can disagree w/ his ideology, you can say he is corrupt, but to compare his actions to Adolf Hitler is accurate.

FIXED! 😎

You are very very paranoid.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Taggart

You are very very paranoid.

Isn't it comical?

 

[mc00]

I vote yes, If he gets away with it next president will as well...

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: wetech

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Err wrong. Why don't you turn off Fox News and read what all the "recounting" was about, then come back. Plus, it's already been confirmed that voting machines in FL were hacked in 2000.

confirmed by who? where are the charges of voter fraud (and I'm not talking about people b1tching, actual court charges filed).

newspapers in florida recounted the votes in every which way... every recount, Gore wins.

What in gods name are you talking about? Every recount showed BUSH winning. Go find me one link showing Gore won, there isn't any!

Written by the Washington Post... 34 page analysis of full recounts (not partial ones)

Thanks for proving my point. None of the ones that show Gore winning were ever undertaken, all of the ones that were done showed Bush winning.

 

[destrekor]

for you conspiracy theorists that believe Bush wants to take over the world.. couple questions:

did we ever land on the moon?
what is area-51?
was 9/11 planned and executed by the government?
howabout the other conspiracies, what's your view?

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Taggart

You are very very paranoid.

Isn't it comical?

very 😉

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: wetech

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Err wrong. Why don't you turn off Fox News and read what all the "recounting" was about, then come back. Plus, it's already been confirmed that voting machines in FL were hacked in 2000.

confirmed by who? where are the charges of voter fraud (and I'm not talking about people b1tching, actual court charges filed).

newspapers in florida recounted the votes in every which way... every recount, Gore wins.

What in gods name are you talking about? Every recount showed BUSH winning. Go find me one link showing Gore won, there isn't any!

Written by the Washington Post... 34 page analysis of full recounts (not partial ones)

Thanks for proving my point. None of the ones that show Gore winning were ever undertaken, all of the ones that were done showed Bush winning.

Are you daft? Gore wanted to recount the entire state. Florida said ok, Bush whined to the USSC and got his way.

 

[conjur]

Well, Gore didn't want to recount the whole state at first. Just counties like Broward and Miami-Dade.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: conjur
Well, Gore didn't want to recount the whole state at first. Just counties like Broward and Miami-Dade.

At first, but he did want it.

Considering the 16,000 votes that were "lost/hacked", I'd say he was on the money with his initial recount requests.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Taggart
You are very very paranoid.

No. Paranoia is an irrational or unreasonable fear. Unfortunately, what I fear about der Führer Bush is all based on facts and current history. 🙁

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
Impeach.

He invaded an innocent country and killed 32,000 people. Charge the Lunatic & his friends with murder, convict them all, and hang them.

if Bush Sr. or Clinton woulda fixed Iraq in the first place, it never would have had to happen.

.

If Bush Sr. had used a condom it would never of happened.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
Impeach.

He invaded an innocent country and killed 32,000 people. Charge the Lunatic & his friends with murder, convict them all, and hang them.

if Bush Sr. or Clinton woulda fixed Iraq in the first place, it never would have had to happen.

If Reagan hadn't helped build up Saddam in the first place, it might never have needed to happen.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
Impeach.

He invaded an innocent country and killed 32,000 people. Charge the Lunatic & his friends with murder, convict them all, and hang them.

if Bush Sr. or Clinton woulda fixed Iraq in the first place, it never would have had to happen.

If Reagan hadn't helped build up Saddam in the first place, it might never have needed to happen.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

exactly, but thats kind of natural. hell if we didn't give osama weapons, everything would probably be better today too. but guess what, history is history, and someone has to take the time and correct things. Bush saw this and is taking his stab.

 

[conjur]

Too bad it wasn't his place to try and "fix" it. Instead, the Mises Effect took over (as many people predicted).