Shooting at Jacksonville Madden tournament

[purbeast0]

The shooter was a gamer who was competing in the tournament and lost, according to Steven “Steveyj” Javaruski, one of the competitors.

The shooter “targeted a few people” and shot at least five victims before killing himself, Javaruski told The Times in a direct message on Twitter. The gunman killed two or three people “that I saw,” Javaruski said.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-jacksonville-mass-shooting-20180826-story.html?15353108170010

 

[MomentsofSanity]

It would be, if there was any such thing as "video game addiction." Video games are no different than any form of repeatable entertainment. No one talks about "TV addiction" anymore even though the average American spends over 20 hours per week watching TV. It's a cultural bias that some people have with video games, because they associate them with children and think the activity is especially frivolous.

If anything can be "addictive," then nothing is addictive. A real "addiction" is a physical dependency.

Addiction isn’t physical. It’s a mental disorder compelling someone to seek rewarding stimuli in spite of consequence. Physicality has nothing to do with it.

 

[woolfe9998]

Eh, psychological addiction is a thing. And it can be applied to anything: Food, porn, videogames, tv, etc

The very fact that it can be applied to anything makes it suspect as "addiction." Sure, anything can be done to excess. Video games present no special issues in that regard. People who spend so much time playing video games and ignore productive things they should be doing are people who don't want to do productive things and without the video game, they'd watch TV or do something else to avoid their work. That is the core issue, not the activity itself.

 

[Brainonska511]

Honestly it’s a pretty valid discussion to have.

We can talk about the effects of video games if it was a contributing factor, but there seems to be one thing that's always central to the plot of these events that we can never seem to discuss.

I can't quite place my finger on what that might be though...

 

[woolfe9998]

Addiction isn’t physical. It’s a mental disorder compelling someone to seek rewarding stimuli in spite of consequence. Physicality has nothing to do with it.

Standard definitions generally include both physical and psychological.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/addiction?s=t

I have my reservations about the concept of "psychological addiction" because it can be definitionally overbroad and easily applied where it doesn't belong. That aside, assuming the concept of it is perfectly valid for the sake of argument, the activity or thing that the person in question is "addicted" to isn't the point. That same person will probably do something else to excess if their chosen "addiction" is unavailable. The focus on "video game addiction" implies that there is something special about video games.

 

[Jaskalas]

Oh great, we're going to he lectured now about the horrors of "video game addiction."

I mean honestly if that played a part it’s worth bringing up.

Anything to distract from the mass availability of guns... to those who shouldn't have them. Meaning the public at large.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Anything to distract from the mass availability of guns... to those who shouldn't have them. Meaning the public at large.

too soon man.

 

[Jaskalas]

too soon man.

Never too soon to want to save lives.

 

[Commodus]

This isn't about gaming addiction.

If the claim that this was a revenge killing is accurate, it's a loser taking things too personally. Sadly, this is often the motivation for mass shootings, regardless of the circumstances: ex-husbands who murder their ex-wives and their families, recently fired workers, and on. If you want to blame something, it's an American society that both makes guns easily accessible and teaches people that they can fix things with a gun.

 

[purbeast0]

Apparently this is the shooter .. "Bread"

https://twitter.com/Seeney_/status/1033794337086287872

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Apparently this is the shooter .. "Bread"

https://twitter.com/Seeney_/status/1033794337086287872

Name’s David Katz if that’s the shooter.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Never too soon to want to save lives.

sorry, I thought the sarcasm was implied

 

[shortylickens]

How did that baby get a firearm?

 

[vi edit]

I'll just simply say be careful posting links to assumed suspects until it's confirmed.

 

[Phokus]

Apparently this is the shooter .. "Bread"

https://twitter.com/Seeney_/status/1033794337086287872

He kinda looks like adam lanza (of the newtown shooting)

 

[WelshBloke]

Addiction isn’t physical. It’s a mental disorder compelling someone to seek rewarding stimuli in spite of consequence. Physicality has nothing to do with it.

People get paid a lot of money to make "rewarding stimuli" a part of games.

 

[Jaskalas]

sorry, I thought the sarcasm was implied

Oh, it was. But the words are still there and elicit a rather pointed response for those who do believe it.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I'll just simply say be careful posting links to assumed suspects until it's confirmed.

The same name seems to be reported in a few places while not confirmed by police. The twitter account he ran has a few suicidal references and disdain for the Madden gaming community.

Again. If it’s him.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Local news still isn't reporting on the identity of the shooter.

 

[Jaskalas]

Local news still isn't reporting on the identity of the shooter.

He's dead so it's not the most immediate concern of theirs. Plus, maybe they want to notify next of kin - even as the shooter? We'll likely have it sometime tonight.

 

[Greenman]

Thoughts and prayers from worthless conservatives in 3...2....1....

Ignorant political posturing launched.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Apparently this is the shooter .. "Bread"

https://twitter.com/Seeney_/status/1033794337086287872

So mental illness it is

 

[Commodus]

Ignorant political posturing launched.

You don't see a problem politicians taking bribes from the gun industry to make sure they do nothing?

 

[Greenman]

You don't see a problem politicians taking bribes from the gun industry to make sure they do nothing?

That's not what I responded to, that's not the topic, and handen't been mentioned before my post.

My personal opinion is that about a third of the population are to stupid, angry, ill, or just generally fucked up to own firearms.

 

[sportage]

NO COMMENT.
This is the world we live in.
We love guns more than life itself, apparently.
Just NO COMMENT.
This is our world, your world, everyones world.
About all we can do in America is wear a bullet proof vest whenever we go out, and always remember TO DUCK!
As to the specifics of trying to analyze this shooting...... don't bother.
It doesn't matter.
It's a guy, it's a gun, it's just another day.
So don't even bother.....

So, how about that Mueller investigation thing?
What's the latest?