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skace

Lifer
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Originally posted by: sixone
That diet sucks. I don't think I could do it, day in and day out. How many thin people do you know who eat like that all the time?

And jogging? In this context, that just seems ridiculous.

Just because you don't think you can do it doesn't make it impossible. It makes it difficult. A person can go from hating beer to enjoying it. Go from hating water to liking it more than any other drink. And you can begin to look forward to a cup of low fat yogurt and a banana at breakfast. Positive reinforcement when you start losing weight helps also.

And maybe not jogging, but walking. And if she can't walk, crawling. You have to start somewhere and whatever increases your heartrate a little is a good thing. Hell, for her maybe rolling over is an exercise.

Oh and read what Wikipedia states on overeating in obesity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weight_gain#Overeating
Overeating
In its simplest conception, obesity is only made possible when the lifetime energy intake exceeds lifetime energy expenditure by more than it does for individuals of "normal weight".

When food energy intake exceeds energy expenditure, fat cells (and to a lesser extent muscle and liver cells) throughout the body take in the energy and store it as fat.

In all individuals, the excess energy utilized to generate fat reserves is minute relative to the total number of calories consumed. This means that very fine perturbations in the energy balance can lead to large fluctuations in weight over time. To illustrate, an obese 40 year old who carries 100 lb of adipose tissue has only consumed about 25 more calories per day than he has burned on average - or the equivalent of an apple every three days. In comparison a very lean 40-year-old who carries only 15 lb of body fat will have exceeded his daily energy expenditure by about four calories a day - the equivalent of an apple every 18 days.[citation needed]

This goes back to my point that she has most likely been overeating for the majority of her life. Probably by a significant margin as opposed to the apple example.
 

joecool

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Apr 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: deerslayer
Do people get that big from eating or some sort of glandular problem?

i don't see how it could be only a glandular problem. basically laws of physics state that it isn't possible to create mass from nothing - therefor, she must be taking in more calories than she is expelling or using. to pack on 700 lbs suggests, even with some kind of freakish metabolism, suggests she has had a huge surplus of calorie intake for years. people who do that are seriously messed up - once you reach 400 lbs how can you not realize there is a problem that needs addressing? i'm sorry, but i just don't have much sympathy for that.

on a parallel note, there is a guy i work with who must be in the 400 lb. range - he's enormous, can barely walk or stand (makes a beeline for a chair as soon as he enters a room/cube), and his belly hangs literally to his knees - it actually hangs below his shirts so you see it when he's walking around - it's truly gross. his obsession with food is creepy - he'll start talking about some dish and start licking his lips and get all dewy eyed - it's sick. i just don't get it.
 

TheGizmo

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Amused
How sad. Some people are prisoners in their own bodies. :(

The only thing I find sad is people let themselves get in that condition.

OK.

I will pay you one million dollars if you can reach 700 lbs in two years.

She has a genetic problem. Most people cannot become super obese even if they try.

Now tell me, why does it make you feel better to blame her for her condition rather than admit the obvious? She has very little control over it... and treatments for it are extremely invasive and expensive.

Dude. Listen to yourself. Read the article.
700 pounds

Dont you think that at maybe 300 she should have become worried about her condition? Or maybe 400? Maybe by the time she was 500 pounds she should have realized something was wrong with her. 600 pounds apparently flew by as well. And from what it looks like even 700 pounds wasnt too concerning to her.

Even including her "genetic condition" of being a fatass with todays technology and understanding of diet and exercise there is no excuse for being that obese.

Like I said. Get to 700 lbs just by letting yourself go and I'll believe you.

The fact of the matter is, you cannot. The vast majority of us cannot. 700 lbs is not a case of simply letting oneself go. It's a serious problem she obviously has little to no control over.

It's obvious that the super obese cannot help their weight by and large. The failure rate of simple diet and exercise among them is very close to 100%.

Again, yes, she could have got help. But the only really effective help for the super obese is extremely invasive, dangerous and expensive.

This is only true to an extent, albeit, not a 700 lb extent.

edit: Amused, I usually like your posts, and respect you. But I don't believe you this time.
 

TheGizmo

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Originally posted by: CKDragon
BUT BUT BUT... it was a food addiction!

If my mind ever gets a point where I can't control whether or not my hands grab food and stuff it in my mouth, I hope one of you nice people would have enough sympathy to put me out of my misery.

don't worry i will.. as long as you do the same for me
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: TheGizmo

edit: Amused, I usually like your posts, and respect you. But I don't believe you this time.

You honestly believe anyone can reach 700 lbs? That it's just a matter of "letting yourself go?"
 

TheNinja

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It is obviously more mental than any sort of physical feeling of being hungry. She probably got overweight (like a lot of peopel do) and then just lost control. I'd say around three hundo or so she probably just said, "screw it, I'm eating anything I want" and just kept going. Once you hit a quarter of a ton you probably don't care much anymore and are probably too embarrassed to really do anything about it. There is no real excuse for this but I'm sure for her eating was an addiction just like smoking or pron is to others.
 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: TheGizmo

edit: Amused, I usually like your posts, and respect you. But I don't believe you this time.

You honestly believe anyone can reach 700 lbs? That it's just a matter of "letting yourself go?"

I, like most people in here, believe that you both have to let yourself go and be genetically inclined. I believe there are many people with similar genetics as hers that addressed their problem long before they get to 700 pounds. The simple fact is that she did not put on hundreds of pounds overnight, and as she was gradually expanding she could/should have taken urgent steps to stop it.

I have no idea if I could get to 700 pounds. I know that i'm capable of putting on 20. However, every time that my waist size starts expanding, I make lifestyle changes so that doesn't continue. I don't expect everyone to be like me, but by the time she was 100 pounds overweight she should have made controlling her weight one of her life priorities.