Sharron Angle. The face of a new Amerika?

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Lifer
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So, you want 100 US Senators who all sound the same and don't take "risky" positions?

That's stupid

Well, I have no problem with "risky" positions, but they should at least be based on the US Constitution. Not the Angle Constitution.
 

Jadow

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Where in the constitution does it mention seperation of church and state?
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Where in the constitution does it mention seperation of church and state?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Congress cannot establish a national religion, congress cannot prevent people from practicing their own religion. Since Congress cannot get involved with religion eitherway a barrier is established between church and state.

BTW - Thomas Jefferson said of this clause is in effect puts a "wall" between church and state.
 

theeedude

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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Maybe Angle is the face of new Nevada.
I mean you have to ask yourself why a business friendly state with low cost of living and no personal or corporate state income taxes has the highest unemployment in the nation. Maybe Nevadans are too stupid to employ at any price :D
 

jhbball

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Obama believes the Constitution provides negative rights
Obama believes white man invented aids
Obama believes you've made enough money, need to spread it around
Obama believes in marxism
Obama follows an anti-colonialist mentality
Obama doesn't believe in free enterprise or free market
Obama doesn't believe in capitalism and downright thinks it's evil

That should scare the crap out of this country way more than the next senator from Nevada.

I think YOU invented aids.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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The amusing thing is very few of those positions actually matter as a US Senator.

Where does she stand on investigating and prosecuting the thousands of crimes committed by the banksters against the citizens of the United States, the United States itself, and foreign entities as well?

Nothing else really matters while the elite are allowed to blatantly violate the law while the bend us over and rape us sans lube. All of these other issues are simply diversions and as proven by this thread, they are working quite well.
 

ElFenix

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No it hasn't. It's been more since JFK.

Let's see, 3 examples off the top of my head:

- Philippines early 20th century

- Cuba 1900-1959

- Supporting the French re-colonization of Vietnam 1950's, including paying up to 90% of their war costs Many, many more though.

it's been in fits and starts but it's been around in the US since the monroe doctrine. heck, the revolution itself was de-colonization.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Congress cannot establish a national religion, congress cannot prevent people from practicing their own religion. Since Congress cannot get involved with religion eitherway a barrier is established between church and state.

BTW - Thomas Jefferson said of this clause is in effect puts a "wall" between church and state.

I know that the constitution doesn't explicitly say "separation of church and state" but how do those that believe it doesn't exist get past the above? Exactly how does the state "join" with the church while complying with the above in any meaningful way?

Don't bother replying with some bullshit like the 10 commandments in a courthouse, I am asking about stuff with actual substance. Personally, I would kinda like to pay attention to that little "due process" thing for right now and leave all of this other bullshit for later but evidently the bullshit that will with 100% certainty NOT change is much more important than stopping the guy who is raping you in the ass right now.
 

werepossum

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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Congress cannot establish a national religion, congress cannot prevent people from practicing their own religion. Since Congress cannot get involved with religion eitherway a barrier is established between church and state.

BTW - Thomas Jefferson said of this clause is in effect puts a "wall" between church and state.

Except since progressives discovered that freedom OF religion is actually freedom FROM religion, government can and does prevent people from freely practicing their own religion. And the progressives are constantly seeking to restrict religion even more, from banning creches on public property to trying to ban creches in sight of public property, from banning official prayers to preventing graduating valedictorians from mentioning G-d in any way. It's practically the ACLU's entire reason for existence. (Of course, this only applies to Christianity.)
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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The next time any of you Angle supporters get a chance, look deeply into her eyes and report back on how you were affected by it....if you still could. *shivers with disgust*
 

OrByte

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Obama believes the Constitution provides negative rights
Obama believes white man invented aids
Obama believes you've made enough money, need to spread it around
Obama believes in marxism
Obama follows an anti-colonialist mentality
Obama doesn't believe in free enterprise or free market
Obama doesn't believe in capitalism and downright thinks it's evil

That should scare the crap out of this country way more than the next senator from Nevada.
In other words, Spidey wants to go back to the time when white folks..... "WE The People" owned the black folk.

/banjo playin
 

Greenman

Lifer
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Congress cannot establish a national religion, congress cannot prevent people from practicing their own religion. Since Congress cannot get involved with religion eitherway a barrier is established between church and state.

BTW - Thomas Jefferson said of this clause is in effect puts a "wall" between church and state.

I heard a fellow speaking about that once, his position was that there is indeed a separation of church and state, but not a separation of God and state. It's an interesting distinction.
 

silent tone

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Except since progressives discovered that freedom OF religion is actually freedom FROM religion, government can and does prevent people from freely practicing their own religion. And the progressives are constantly seeking to restrict religion even more, from banning creches on public property to trying to ban creches in sight of public property, from banning official prayers to preventing graduating valedictorians from mentioning G-d in any way. It's practically the ACLU's entire reason for existence. (Of course, this only applies to Christianity.)

You are exactly right that we are free from the government pushing religion(s) on us. I suspect you don't want the gov. to replace the Christian national holidays with pagan ones, or asking you to swear on a copy of Dianetics in court, or replace the Indiana public school bible classes with Quran classes, or replace the Decalogue with Wiccan spells in government buildings. Even religious nutters don't want their state imposing somebody else's favorite brand of supersition on them.

Also, thwarting religion isn't the ACLU's primary goal. Google is your friend. Here are a few dozen examples: http://www.aclufightsforchristians.com/
 

Saint Nick

Lifer
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We all know that there never has been, and never will be, a separation of church and state.
 

werepossum

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In other words, Spidey wants to go back to the time when white folks..... "WE The People" owned the black folk.

/banjo playin

Out comes the liberal deck, fifty-one race cards and a joker (you know, in case you need to play the race card.)

Don't like Marxism? You're a racist!
Don't like high taxes? You're a racist!
Don't like people breaking immigration laws? You're a racist!
Don't like murderers serving life without parole getting weekend passes? You're a racist!
Don't like the threat of being jailed for spending your own money on your own health care? You're a racist!
Don't like having your hard-earned money taken and given to others? You're a racist!
Don't like non-citizens voting? You're a racist!

Frankly, after the first few million times the accusation loses a lot of its sting.
 

OrByte

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Out comes the liberal deck, fifty-one race cards and a joker (you know, in case you need to play the race card.)

Don't like Marxism? You're a racist!
Don't like high taxes? You're a racist!
Don't like people breaking immigration laws? You're a racist!
Don't like murderers serving life without parole getting weekend passes? You're a racist!
Don't like the threat of being jailed for spending your own money on your own health care? You're a racist!
Don't like having your hard-earned money taken and given to others? You're a racist!
Don't like non-citizens voting? You're a racist!

Frankly, after the first few million times the accusation loses a lot of its sting.

well enjoy it...because now there's a few million and ONE more!!

/banjo!
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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You are exactly right that we are free from the government pushing religion(s) on us. I suspect you don't want the gov. to replace the Christian national holidays with pagan ones, or asking you to swear on a copy of Dianetics in court, or replace the Indiana public school bible classes with Quran classes, or replace the Decalogue with Wiccan spells in government buildings. Even religious nutters don't want their state imposing somebody else's favorite brand of supersition on them.

Also, thwarting religion isn't the ACLU's primary goal. Google is your friend. Here are a few dozen examples: http://www.aclufightsforchristians.com/

I stand corrected, thanks. Maybe the liberal press just doesn't like reporting these cases, 'cause I never hear about them.

well enjoy it...because now there's a few million and ONE more!!

/banjo!

LOL Hey - I LIKE banjos!
 

Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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it's been in fits and starts but it's been around in the US since the monroe doctrine. heck, the revolution itself was de-colonization.

You want me to write a book for you showing you it's far more extensive than that?

Makes more sense for me to point you to books, will you read any? Sorry, I doubt it.

And if you can't bother...

Me spending an hour writing up the info for you to spend 5 seconds with a one liner, isn't too attractive.

On our revolution, you have it backwards give we were freeing ourselves.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Except since progressives discovered that freedom OF religion is actually freedom FROM religion, government can and does prevent people from freely practicing their own religion. And the progressives are constantly seeking to restrict religion even more, from banning creches on public property to trying to ban creches in sight of public property, from banning official prayers to preventing graduating valedictorians from mentioning G-d in any way. It's practically the ACLU's entire reason for existence. (Of course, this only applies to Christianity.)

Wrong again. Nobody in government is restricting any religion or the practicing thereof on private property.

BTW - If you are against government restricting religion why do your folks want the President to say building a mosque 2 blocks from ground zero is wrong?