Several shot at Florida airport

[realibrad]

Seems pretty obvious the problem is people like you who're suddenly very concerned whenever anyone mocks your peers.

I'm concerned that you are using the deaths of people to mock other people you dont like.

 

[fskimospy]

Mass killings make up less than 1% of all homicides in the USA. The Czech Republic has gun laws as lax as America's and one of the lowest homicide rates in the world.

I agree that mass killings aren't really the issue. They get most of the press, but that's not how guns generally kill people. Also, to own a gun in the Czech Republic you have to pass a knowledge test, a hands on test, pass a universal background check, and more. Their gun laws are most certainly more strict than ours are (in general), at least in terms of who may own a gun.

White Americans commit homicide at a rate roughly comparable to Europeans as a whole.

That should tell you something though, where one of our most affluent socioeconomic groups has a homicide rate that's approximately equivalent to that of other societies as a whole, their most violent socioeconomic groups included. Not a good look.

 

[Svnla]

Mass killings make up less than 1% of all homicides in the USA. The Czech Republic has gun laws as lax as America's and one of the lowest homicide rates in the world. White Americans commit homicide at a rate roughly comparable to Europeans as a whole.

Speaking of Czech, how to fight terrorists? Shoot the bastards -

The Czech Republic already has some of the most lenient gun policies in Europe. It's home to about 800,000 registered firearms and 300,000 people with gun licenses. Obtaining a weapon is relatively easy: Residents must be 21, pass a gun knowledge check and have no criminal record. By law, Czechs can use their weapons to protect their property or when in danger, although they need to prove they faced a real threat.

Humm, look like Czech has similar gun laws as the US.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...shoot-them-yourselves/?utm_term=.93223b3c26f4

 

[realibrad]

I agree that mass killings aren't really the issue. They get most of the press, but that's not how guns generally kill people. Also, to own a gun in the Czech Republic you have to pass a knowledge test, a hands on test, pass a universal background check, and more. Their gun laws are most certainly more strict than ours are (in general), at least in terms of who may own a gun.



That should tell you something though, where one of our most affluent socioeconomic groups has a homicide rate that's approximately equivalent to that of other societies as a whole, their most violent socioeconomic groups included. Not a good look.

A rational response to this situation. He is a Left person that is not using the deaths of people to insult others. Agent, why don't you try being like this?

 

[agent00f]

I'm concerned that you are using the deaths of people to mock other people you dont like.

Funny how your reaction to orders of magnitude more brown people deaths was to bicker endlessly about the exact number. If only someone had the moral courage to concern troll that piece of shit.

A rational response to this situation. He is a Left person that is not using the deaths of people to insult others. Agent, why don't you try being like this?

Rather obvious why you prefer to play the old game of righteous indignation.

 

[Svnla]

A rational response to this situation. He is a Left person that is not using the deaths of people to insult others. Agent, why don't you try being like this?

I bashed head with Eskimo a few times before and while I did not agree with him a lot of time, he at least would try to debate with you and not act like a fool or pull the race card as the newbie agenttroll.

 

[realibrad]

Funny how your reaction to orders of magnitude more brown people deaths was to bicker endlessly about the exact number. If only someone had the moral courage to concern troll that piece of shit.

Its sad that your mind is so warped that you cannot see anything wrong with what you are doing.

 

[realibrad]

I bashed head with Eskimo a few times before and while I did not agree with him a lot of time, he at least would try to debate with you and not act like a fool or pull the race card as the newbie agenttroll.

Agreed, which is where I find myself with him. Agent is a troll and wants to provoke people, but this is horribly sad. People were murdered and the only thing Agent seems to want to do is to insult people. Using situations like this to attack others you disagree with is pretty sick.

 

[agent00f]

Its sad that your mind is so warped that you cannot see anything wrong with what you are doing.

Rather the point to illustrate your sort only see the wrong when it's orders of magnitude less than your own.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I agree that mass killings aren't really the issue. They get most of the press, but that's not how guns generally kill people. Also, to own a gun in the Czech Republic you have to pass a knowledge test, a hands on test, pass a universal background check, and more. Their gun laws are most certainly more strict than ours are (in general), at least in terms of who may own a gun.

That should tell you something though, where one of our most affluent socioeconomic groups has a homicide rate that's approximately equivalent to that of other societies as a whole, their most violent socioeconomic groups included. Not a good look.

They have permit requirements but most people still can get guns easily afaik. Laws preventing felons from owning guns are something we already have, laws requiring mental health evaluations could screen out he 1% of spree killers but probably not be too useful beyond that, and I can't imagine their proficiency exam is that strenuous, nor would it make a difference wrt American gun deaths (accidental deaths are the least common death by far). They also have shall-issue concealed carry and no duty to retreat, which puts them ahead of many states in the Northeast as well as many major cities.

Doesn't say too much. The poorest white states (e.g. West Virginia) are only moderately (~3 times iirc) more homicidal than affluent ones like New Hampshire.

 

[agent00f]

Agreed, which is where I find myself with him. Agent is a troll and wants to provoke people, but this is horribly sad. People were murdered and the only thing Agent seems to want to do is to insult people. Using situations like this to attack others you disagree with is pretty sick.

Keep in mind if this is supposed to be bad how it looks when your sort ignore the entire body of right wing opportunism to focus on this instead. That's hardly any accident, is it?

 

[fskimospy]

They have permit requirements but most people still can get guns easily afaik. Laws preventing felons from owning guns are something we already have, laws requiring mental health evaluations could screen out he 1% of spree killers but probably not be too useful beyond that, and I can't imagine their proficiency exam is that strenuous, nor would it make a difference wrt American gun deaths (accidental deaths are the least common death by far). They also have shall-issue concealed carry and no duty to retreat, which puts them ahead of many states in the Northeast as well as many major cities.

I would agree they are more lax than most of Europe and some cities in the US, but I would not say they are as lax as US laws. Hell, apparently you can be banned from owning a gun if the government thinks you drink too much and they mandate a universal background check before you can own one.

Doesn't say too much. The poorest white states (e.g. West Virginia) are only moderately (~3 times iirc) more homicidal than affluent ones like New Hampshire.

I think that says a lot. I would be interested to see a comparison of homicide rates of US whites with a comparable socioeconomic group in Europe. I bet their homicide rate is way lower.

 

[realibrad]

Keep in mind if this is supposed to be bad how it looks when your sort ignore the entire body of right wing opportunism to focus on this instead. That's hardly any accident, is it?

If/when that happens, I will also think its sick. I also see you trying to deflect from what you are doing. I really hope people on the Left start to speak out against people like you soon. The Right long ago accepted its crazies, and I hope those on the Left do not do the same. I know there are people on the Left that dont like what you do, and I hope the start to speak out more so the Left does become the equivalent to the Right in the mind of moderates.

 

[agent00f]

If/when that happens, I will also think its sick. I also see you trying to deflect from what you are doing. I really hope people on the Left start to speak out against people like you soon. The Right long ago accepted its crazies, and I hope those on the Left do not do the same. I know there are people on the Left that dont like what you do, and I hope the start to speak out more so the Left does become the equivalent to the Right in the mind of moderates.

Oh I'm sure you were all up in their bidness when they were milking every brown on white crime to the max, and not looking the other way if not marching in lockstep right with them.

Speaking of opportunism, that accusation rings loud and clear for your convenient righteous indignation right now. Good thing nobody's ever accused you of much integrity. But hey, the guy pointing all that out is the Real opportunist.

 

[momeNt]

Keep in mind if this is supposed to be bad how it looks when your sort ignore the entire body of right wing opportunism to focus on this instead. That's hardly any accident, is it?

What is a best case scenario of the racial makeup of what happened today. Race of shooter and victims. Take us for a tour into the mind of agent00f.

edit: or political affiliations. I know you also have a thing for that too. The breakdown is up to you.

 

[desura]

I'm not sure how he joined the Army Reserves in 2016 and then left four months later with an honorable discharge. Is this some medical discharge? Seems the only explanation.

 

[agent00f]

What is a best case scenario of the racial makeup of what happened today. Race of shooter and victims. Take us for a tour into the mind of agent00f.

edit: or political affiliations. I know you also have a thing for that too. The breakdown is up to you.

Just a heads up that realibrad is hardly the worse example of nonexistent intellectual honesty within your peer group.

Also keep in mind that this is a topic forum where these meta-obervations of the news/reaction biz offer far greater penetrating insight into americans as a people, even if many are understandably offended by what that shows. Their pathetic little attempt at indignance and guilt only furthers the point.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I would agree they are more lax than most of Europe and some cities in the US, but I would not say they are as lax as US laws. Hell, apparently you can be banned from owning a gun if the government thinks you drink too much and they mandate a universal background check before you can own one.

I think that says a lot. I would be interested to see a comparison of homicide rates of US whites with a comparable socioeconomic group in Europe. I bet their homicide rate is way lower.

I'll accept that perhaps the Czech Republic is less lax on paper, but in practice they're at least close. I didn't know about laws related to alcoholism (a quick search tells me they exist but not finding immediate details), but I do know there was at least one story where a bar argument went outside, one guy pulled a knife, the other then pulled a gun and shot him dead, and it was considered valid self-defense (even in Texas concealed carry is illegal within a bar). I think it's probably a matter of culture/governing style as much as anything; Americans are more paranoid about gun laws, and the laws that are enforced are usually done so strictly. Perhaps in the Czech Republic, owing also to their population, they take a more local style of governing where people trust that hardcore alcoholics and crazies will be taken care of on a case-by-case basis, and others will be given more leeway. I will admit that gun ownership is certainly lower there as well, which could be an indication of more strict laws, but most of what I've seen implies it's a matter of people not caring rather than people not being able to carry.

Aside from France, Germany, the UK, and Sweden, most of Europe is still like 95% European or more. They also lack the problem of ghettos; iirc, in Germany the city with the highest homicide rate is either Berlin or another East German one, and it's only a couple times higher than the national average. That's in contrast with America where we have massive cities like San Diego with European levels of homicide, as well as cities like St. Louis with Central American levels of violence. There aren't really any comparable demographics in Europe. I can definitely accept that terrible public schools, the war on drugs, and other factors are the biggest drivers of crime in America though, things that don't affect Europe.

 

[Puffnstuff]

What is a best case scenario of the racial makeup of what happened today. Race of shooter and victims. Take us for a tour into the mind of agent00f.

edit: or political affiliations. I know you also have a thing for that too. The breakdown is up to you.

Agent knows how to spin things better than a Norge commercial washing machine.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

My condolences to the families and friends of those who were killed. My sympathies to the families and friends of those who were injured, may they have a speedy recovery and be able to lead a normal life.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Man apparently the shooter showed up at the FBI in anchorage a couple months ago and they had him committed. Still able to travel with a checked loaded firearm that he just pulled out of his bag at baggage claim.

 

[momeNt]

Just a heads up that realibrad is hardly the worse example of nonexistent intellectual honesty within your peer group.

Also keep in mind that this is a topic forum where these meta-obervations of the news/reaction biz offer far greater penetrating insight into americans as a people, even if many are understandably offended by what that shows. Their pathetic little attempt at indignance and guilt only furthers the point.

There was one person before you who assumed the shooter was Muslim. That's bad on its own, and shows a bias. It was you and Jst0rm who alone actually went so far as to hope the race or political affiliation of the victims. I really don't think anybody here besides you two do that. You do understand that that is different right, and a little worrying?

 

[agent00f]

There was one person before you who assumed the shooter was Muslim. That's bad on its own, and shows a bias. It was you and Jst0rm who alone actually went so far as to hope the race or political affiliation of the victims. I really don't think anybody here besides you two do that. You do understand that that is different right, and a little worrying?

No great surprise the ever dishonest feel compelled to concoct what I'm hoping or not when the facts of the matter make them look so bad.

Agent knows how to spin things better than a Norge commercial washing machine.

Should we expect more of these compelling counterarguments from you in the future?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Wtf. Rick Scott is out right now saying g he's talked to Trump and Pence several times but never called the President for resource help.

 

[momeNt]

CBS News

✔@CBSNews
NEW: In Nov. 2016, FLL suspect walked into FBI office in Anchorage, claiming he was being forced to fight for ISIS, sources tell CBS News.

How is he being forced to fight for ISIS? Subliminal twitter and facebook propaganda? Is there something in Facebook's algorithm that they aren't telling us?