Set Me Straight

[ParatoOptimal]

I'm all set to get the following at the end of the month or just after....b-day money coming in next month....
NF7-S
$99 XP-M 2600+
512MB some sort of RAM
HSF cheap

However, New Egg has the following on sale this weekend only:
$127 Intel Pentium 4/ 2.4A GHz 533MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache - Retail
Core: Prescott

The P4 has more L2 cache, a wider FSB & hyperthreading.
And the P4 platform may have a longer lifespan for future upgrades over the AMD A-socket.

I've read that the Prescot core is damn hot.
However, wouldn't OC'ing the XP-M be just as hot?

Yes, I want to save money.
But, $30 isn't much if it returns tons over investing in the AMD.

Thanks for your insight / advice

 

[exar333]

I could be mistaken..but I thought the 2.4A Prescott DIDN'T have hyperthreading? anyone support my assumption? (othersie not a bad deal...its a decent OC'r)

 

[someone16]

No the 2.4A doesn't have hyperthreading. I think for 30 bux you're better off with the mobile because the P4 platform is going to be replaced as well in the near future anywaY.

 

[Zebo]

$30????

Thats just the chip difference. Add another $25 for board (IC7), $60 for high speed mem because you want 1:1 240-250 FSB, Maybe $15-20 for the better HSF over the bartons needs.

That's $130 more and no soundstrom. Your choice. But if you want a pentium Please get the 2.8C...Much much much better bang for the buck...

 

[ParatoOptimal]

That's just the sort of info I was looking for, zebo. Thanks!

Thank you all.

I see AT-ers using $33-$66 HS/F's.
Do the P's really require ones more expensive than that?

I'm looking to do the XP-M 2600+ in a rig.
It seems that I'm up to @$320-$340 with 512MB RAM with or without a HS/F and sticking with my old, cheapo case and 300W PS from CUSA.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: ParatoOptimal
That's just the sort of info I was looking for, zebo. Thanks!



Thank you all.



I see AT-ers using $33-$66 HS/F's.

Do the P's really require ones more expensive than that?



I'm looking to do the XP-M 2600+ in a rig.

It seems that I'm up to @$320-$340 with 512MB RAM with or without a HS/F and sticking with my old, cheapo case and 300W PS from CUSA.

Well I say wait then if your on a $3-$400 budget. I mean a 300W no name PSU is asking for disaster for overclcoking. Also ram prices are up there right now. What do you have now?

 

[ParatoOptimal]

Sad to say ...
P3-500 FCPGA - 100FSB
512MB (max for CUSL-2) PC133 running at 100
ASUS CUSL-2 MOBO
TNT2 64MB PCI Vid Card

 

[ectx]

With transition to pci-x and the fact that both p4 and athlon cores will be phased out soon. I'd go with somethig that last me about 1 year at the lowest possible prices - I'd buy used parts.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: ectx
With transition to pci-x and the fact that both p4 and athlon cores will be phased out soon. I'd go with somethig that last me about 1 year at the lowest possible prices - I'd buy used parts.

The Athlon core is not being phased out any time soon.

The SocketA XP's will be around probable another year or so.

Socket 754 (Athlon 64's) are still being supported for a while.
Socket 940 is mostly for servers so it is going no where
The Current P4 is being replaced by the new socket but I am sure the current ones will be around a little longer.

 

[ectx]

You are technically right. When I was a kid, 1 week seems like a long time. Now 1 year = a short period of time. Amazing how one's perspective changes.

I should have been more precise.

What would you do if you were in his shoes?

 

[ParatoOptimal]

I'd like to stay at a $300 max with an XP-M but that isn't possible unless maybe I go with a 2400+.


Is an Athlon 64 2800 a better deal than an XP-M?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: ParatoOptimal
I'd like to stay at a $300 max with an XP-M but that isn't possible unless maybe I go with a 2400+.


Is an Athlon 64 2800 a better deal than an XP-M?

You not going to get a a64 in that budget. The numbers simply do not add up/

Here's my sugesstion

Antec slk case with real 350W PSU $60
Shuttle AN35N $60
KomUSA PC 4200 cas 2.5 2x256 mb $140 or from newegg Buffalo PC3200 Cas 2.5 $116
MobileXP 2600 $99


Just a tad over $300 and you'll be screaming. See these benches http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=1295713&highlight_key=y

 

[ParatoOptimal]

I read in another thread that an Athlon 64 2800 costs @ $25 more than an XP-M 2800+.

 

[Corporate Thug]

the XP-M will not run nearly as hot even when it is OCed

 

[Jester666]

Originally posted by: ParatoOptimal
I read in another thread that an Athlon 64 2800 costs @ $25 more than an XP-M 2800+.

AMD does not make a mobile XP 2800+. Are you confusing this with the MP series?

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Jester666

Originally posted by: ParatoOptimal
I read in another thread that an Athlon 64 2800 costs @ $25 more than an XP-M 2800+.

AMD does not make a mobile XP 2800+. Are you confusing this with the MP series?

Yea they do make a Mobile 2800+, it is juts not at newegg.com yet.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Zebo
$30????

Thats just the chip difference. Add another $25 for board (IC7), $60 for high speed mem because you want 1:1 240-250 FSB, Maybe $15-20 for the better HSF over the bartons needs.

That's $130 more and no soundstrom. Your choice. But if you want a pentium Please get the 2.8C...Much much much better bang for the buck...

I agree stay away from the P4 prescotts period as this 2.4ghz likley would not be better then the 2.4b or 2.4c and be hotter to boot with less ociong headroom cause of it....

However the rest of zebo said is a stretch to inaccurate....


1) An Is7 and i865 is sufficient and negates the 25 bucks for the Ic7.....

2) The 2.4a prescott is 533fsb meaing 1:1 at stock is pc2100 memory....Even if could get it to 200fsb which would be likely impossible 18x200fsb for 3.6ghz it would only be pc3200 which is not expensive and likley what he is going to get for the Barton mobile....

 

[Zebo]

Yup thanks for setting it striaght Duvie. I was thinking prescott has same multi as a 2.4C for some reason. maybe kyle at OCP was right it is a great bang for the buck....If you got water.

 

[Jester666]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Jester666

Originally posted by: ParatoOptimal
I read in another thread that an Athlon 64 2800 costs @ $25 more than an XP-M 2800+.

AMD does not make a mobile XP 2800+. Are you confusing this with the MP series?

Yea they do make a Mobile 2800+, it is juts not at newegg.com yet.

Anyone know who's carrying it?

 

[MysticX23]

I hear its only in Europe. Maybe a UK store..but shipping would be horrendous.