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Serious Question: Athiests... do you believe in love?
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1. Yes, I believe in God.
2. I do not believe in love if you're referring to some type of power that exists outside of the mind. Love is an emotion. Emotions exist within the mind, IE, complex chemical reactions.... which empirically boils down to "matter" (atoms/particles/etc. reacting to each other). Therefore, I don't believe that love between two humans exists outside of the mind. God and his love exist outside of the mind, in the "physical" world, which we can never have access to, since we're limited to sense data and sensations.
2. I do not believe in love if you're referring to some type of power that exists outside of the mind. Love is an emotion. Emotions exist within the mind, IE, complex chemical reactions.... which empirically boils down to "matter" (atoms/particles/etc. reacting to each other). Therefore, I don't believe that love between two humans exists outside of the mind. God and his love exist outside of the mind, in the "physical" world, which we can never have access to, since we're limited to sense data and sensations.
JustAnAverageGuy
Diamond Member
Now THAT makes more sense. Otherwise this topic would be absolutely stupid.
Doboji
The difference is there is a measureable physical (chemical) difference between people 'in' and 'out' of love. That can observed and recorded. I would say the opposite of a god, but somebody would take it out of context in an attempt to make me look like an idiot.
Well ok... I wasn't trying to force any kind of connection necessarily... I'm just trying to get an idea of what atheists think of love... and what your perspective on it is...
The next step of WHAT one believes ABOUT love is way out of the scope of any poll.
However.. I would argue that "love" goes beyond the commonly defined boundaries of "peer-bonding"... I believe that love is something beyond simple chemical reactions... what exactly I have no idea... but certainly something... errr "special"?
Love certainly rises above "relationship"... and is something unproveable, and intangible... kinda like belief in god... I'm not trying to force a link... I'm just getting an idea of how the two intangible, unproveable beliefs relate.
-Max
The next step of WHAT one believes ABOUT love is way out of the scope of any poll.
However.. I would argue that "love" goes beyond the commonly defined boundaries of "peer-bonding"... I believe that love is something beyond simple chemical reactions... what exactly I have no idea... but certainly something... errr "special"?
Love certainly rises above "relationship"... and is something unproveable, and intangible... kinda like belief in god... I'm not trying to force a link... I'm just getting an idea of how the two intangible, unproveable beliefs relate.
-Max
JustAnAverageGuy
Diamond Member
Am I an atheist?
Yes
Do I believe in love?
Yes
Do I believe in your definition of love?
No
Yes
Do I believe in love?
Yes
Do I believe in your definition of love?
No
MercenaryForHire
Lifer
They're both awesome subjects to troll about? 😀
- M4H
What is love?
There's...
Divine love
Sexual love
Fraternal love
Parental love
Filial love
Familial love
Animal love
Bubba love
Can you please specify to which of the above (or others) which you are referring?
If you're going to make a philosophical inquiry, think it through first and clearly define what you mean.
There's...
Divine love
Sexual love
Fraternal love
Parental love
Filial love
Familial love
Animal love
Bubba love
Can you please specify to which of the above (or others) which you are referring?
If you're going to make a philosophical inquiry, think it through first and clearly define what you mean.
JustAnAverageGuy
Diamond Member
I'm quite content with the whole chemical changes theory.
I think I've provided more than sufficient definition to discuss thoroughly... pic any from the above and discuss.. what is there to Parental love?.... is it magical and special.. or just a bunch of chemical reactions in the brain... if it's just chemical reactions then.. doesn't that dillute the meaning of the terminology itself?
or how about romantic love?... what about the difference between romantic love, and sexual love?... is there a difference?
Jesus christ people... stop being so damn defensive before there's something to defend against...
-Max
JustAnAverageGuy
Diamond Member
Difference being that love can be proven. Whereas religion is debateable
MercenaryForHire
Lifer
And we're trying to figure out what the fvck "love" has to do with religious orientation. 😛
- M4H
Isn't that going beyond the scope of your original question "Do atheists believe in love?" Now you're discussing about the differences in types of love...that seems to be an entirely different question.
...I'm not being defensive. I'm just saying your question is incredibly vague.
Yeah to be honest, love itself is proving hard to define... and it says something about the mindset of atheists in that they demand a very specific definition of the term itself... I guess when I asked the question I think of love in a very abstract way... more than just emotions... magical if you will, but all that is behind the scenes thinking, it just sort of gets rolled up into the way I think of the term itself. That's just me though.
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