Well the Democratic Party is not off to a good start at all.
I have not been getting any financial backing there at all but there is a possibility of the Green Party.
Well the Democratic Party is not off to a good start at all.
I have not been getting any financial backing there at all but there is a possibility of the Green Party.
Originally posted by: bamacre
Well, I hate to say it, but maybe they've read some of your posts here.
Yes, they have indeed.
Apparently I've had more of Countrywide influence and audience than Hillary.
Is he going to reveal which one he hasn't broken? Aside from the first (I am the lord thy god...), it's a mystery to most Americans. :roll:
It wouldn't matter to me about the first commandment because I don't believe that one.
It's something to worry about, but religion isn't an effective moral prescription as the higher teen pregnancy rates, divorce rates, and so forth in the Bible Belt as compared to the more secular Northeast show.
The Declaration of Independence does not govern the US government, but the US Constitution does. Why not look at that document instead?
What about the US Constitution specificially forbidding religious oaths of office?
No, they didn't forget them, but they did explicitly leave them out of the US Constitution and that's a fact you should think about in your hurry to push religion into government.
It's also worth pointing out that church and state are separated not only to protect the state , but also to protect the church. The Catholic Church was at its zenith of political-economic power just before the Protestant Reformation shattered the unity of the church because the church had lost its way in the pursuit of temporal power.
8-23-2005 Grooming Politicians for Christ
WASHINGTON ? In the blue and gold elegance of the House speaker's private dining room, Jeremy Bouma bowed his head before eight young men and women who hope to one day lead the nation. He prayed that they might find wisdom in the Bible ? and govern by its word.
"Holy Father, we thank you for providing us with guidance," said Bouma, who works for an influential televangelist. "Thank you, Lord, for these students. Build them up as your warriors and your ambassadors on Capitol Hill."
many as a dozen congressional aides ? many of them aspiring politicians ? have gathered over takeout dinners to mine the Bible for ancient wisdom on modern policy debates about tax rates, foreign aid, education, cloning and the Central American Free Trade Agreement.
Through seminars taught by conservative college professors and devout members of Congress, the students learn that serving country means first and always serving Christ.
That puts them at the vanguard of a bold effort by evangelical conservatives to mold a new generation of leaders who will answer not to voters, but to God.
It's one of half a dozen evangelical leadership programs making steady inroads into Washington.
The most prominent is Patrick Henry College in Purcellville, Va., an hour's drive from the capital. The college was founded five years ago with the goal of turning out "Christian men and women who will lead our nation with timeless biblical values." Nearly every graduate works in government or with a conservative advocacy group.
The Witherspoon Fellowship has had similar success, placing its graduates in the White House, Congress, the State Department and legislatures nationwide.
The fellowship brings 42 college students to Washington each year to study theology and politics ? and to work at the conservative Family Research Council, which lobbies on such social issues as abortion and same-sex marriage.
The philosophy animating Cameron's lecture ? that federal law should be based on biblical precepts ? troubles the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.
"This nation was founded specifically to avoid the government making religious and theological decisions," Lynn said. "We are not to turn the Holy Scriptures of any group into public policy."
To which Lynn responds, with exasperation: "He says that because he knows in a majority Christian country, the Christian view is going to be expressed by more voters. They have no problem imposing their biblical worldview on every American."
Evangelical conservatives acknowledge that's their goal.
And they now have a systematic plan for achieving it.
But to Rep. Walter B. Jones, a North Carolina Republican, it's clear the institute is "doing the Lord's work."
The nation needs more politicians who take their cues from God, not Gallup, or "our morality will crumble," he warned. "We won't recognize America."
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Lord, please help us and save us from your zealots.
WASHINGTON ? In the blue and gold elegance of the House speaker's private dining room, Jeremy Bouma bowed his head before eight young men and women who hope to one day lead the nation. He prayed that they might find wisdom in the Bible ? and govern by its word.
"Holy Father, we thank you for providing us with guidance," said Bouma, who works for an influential televangelist. "Thank you, Lord, for these students. Build them up as your warriors and your ambassadors on Capitol Hill."
many as a dozen congressional aides ? many of them aspiring politicians ? have gathered over takeout dinners to mine the Bible for ancient wisdom on modern policy debates about tax rates, foreign aid, education, cloning and the Central American Free Trade Agreement.
Through seminars taught by conservative college professors and devout members of Congress, the students learn that serving country means first and always serving Christ.
That puts them at the vanguard of a bold effort by evangelical conservatives to mold a new generation of leaders who will answer not to voters, but to God.
It's one of half a dozen evangelical leadership programs making steady inroads into Washington.
The most prominent is Patrick Henry College in Purcellville, Va., an hour's drive from the capital. The college was founded five years ago with the goal of turning out "Christian men and women who will lead our nation with timeless biblical values." Nearly every graduate works in government or with a conservative advocacy group.
The Witherspoon Fellowship has had similar success, placing its graduates in the White House, Congress, the State Department and legislatures nationwide.
The fellowship brings 42 college students to Washington each year to study theology and politics ? and to work at the conservative Family Research Council, which lobbies on such social issues as abortion and same-sex marriage.
The philosophy animating Cameron's lecture ? that federal law should be based on biblical precepts ? troubles the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.
"This nation was founded specifically to avoid the government making religious and theological decisions," Lynn said. "We are not to turn the Holy Scriptures of any group into public policy."
To which Lynn responds, with exasperation: "He says that because he knows in a majority Christian country, the Christian view is going to be expressed by more voters. They have no problem imposing their biblical worldview on every American."
Evangelical conservatives acknowledge that's their goal.
And they now have a systematic plan for achieving it.
But to Rep. Walter B. Jones, a North Carolina Republican, it's clear the institute is "doing the Lord's work."
The nation needs more politicians who take their cues from God, not Gallup, or "our morality will crumble," he warned. "We won't recognize America."
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Lord, please help us and save us from your zealots.
The Rev. Charles Nestor, an Assemblies of God minister in Lakeland, Fla., supports the legal fight. But his Web site also promotes "Operation Nativity", urging Christians to "flood the country" with Nativity displays at their homes, churches and businesses.
11-7-2007 Southern Christians getting ready for Christmas Wars
This week, the Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian legal group based in Scottsdale, Ariz., announced that its 800 cooperating attorneys have volunteered to handle without fee complaints about "improper attempts to censor the celebration of Christmas in schools and on public property."
Michael Johnson of Shreveport, La., an ADF staff lawyer, says his group merely wants to "defend the rights of the 96 percent of Americans who celebrate Christmas" and is not trying to evangelize. He thinks ACLU's goal is "ultimately to silence people of faith, and in many cases people of the Christian faith."
The Rev. Charles Nestor, an Assemblies of God minister in Lakeland, Fla., supports the legal fight. But his Web site also promotes "Operation Nativity", urging Christians to "flood the country" with Nativity displays at their homes, churches and businesses.
11-7-2007 Southern Christians getting ready for Christmas Wars
This week, the Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian legal group based in Scottsdale, Ariz., announced that its 800 cooperating attorneys have volunteered to handle without fee complaints about "improper attempts to censor the celebration of Christmas in schools and on public property."
Michael Johnson of Shreveport, La., an ADF staff lawyer, says his group merely wants to "defend the rights of the 96 percent of Americans who celebrate Christmas" and is not trying to evangelize. He thinks ACLU's goal is "ultimately to silence people of faith, and in many cases people of the Christian faith."
The Rev. Charles Nestor, an Assemblies of God minister in Lakeland, Fla., supports the legal fight. But his Web site also promotes "Operation Nativity", urging Christians to "flood the country" with Nativity displays at their homes, churches and businesses.
I'm putting this in this thread because itis the continuing march of the Religious Pruding up America.
12-14-2005 NBC Cuts Pamela Anderson Pole Dance Video
Pamela Anderson and pole dancing proved too hot for NBC, which dropped a number featuring the actress in a sexy big-screen video from an Elton John special.
"Elton John: The Red Piano," a Las Vegas extravaganza taped at Caesars Palace, aired Monday night without the segment in which John sang "The Bitch is Back" while an oversized screen behind him displayed a scantily clad Anderson.
The actress moved suggestively around a dance pole in the number, which was included in preview copies sent out to critics.
12-14-2005 NBC Cuts Pamela Anderson Pole Dance Video
Pamela Anderson and pole dancing proved too hot for NBC, which dropped a number featuring the actress in a sexy big-screen video from an Elton John special.
"Elton John: The Red Piano," a Las Vegas extravaganza taped at Caesars Palace, aired Monday night without the segment in which John sang "The Bitch is Back" while an oversized screen behind him displayed a scantily clad Anderson.
The actress moved suggestively around a dance pole in the number, which was included in preview copies sent out to critics.
I bet these Jeans get banned in the U.S.
12-30-2005 'Devilish' Jeans a Hot Seller in Sweden
STOCKHOLM, Sweden - Cheap Monday jeans are a hot commodity among young Swedes thanks to their trendy tight fit and low price, even if a few buyers are turned off by the logo: a skull with a cross turned upside down on its forehead.
"It is an active statement against Christianity," Atldax told The Associated Press. "I'm not a Satanist myself, but I have a great dislike for organized religion."
The label's makers say it's more of a joke, but Atldax insists his graphic designs have a purpose beyond selling denim: to make young people question Christianity, a "force of evil" that he blames for sparking wars throughout history.
"One cannot just keep quiet about this," said the Rev. Karl-Erik Nylund, vicar of St. Mary Magdalene Church in Stockholm. "This is a deliberate provocation (against Christians) and I object to that."
Nylund complained that Swedish companies do not treat Christianity with the same respect in marketing that they afford other religions.
"No one wants to provoke Jews or Muslims, but it's totally OK to provoke Christians," he said.
Cheap Mondays have started to sell abroad. The jeans are being shipped to Norway, Denmark, Britain, the Netherlands, France and Australia. Andersson said they're working on introducing them in the United States and elsewhere.
12-30-2005 'Devilish' Jeans a Hot Seller in Sweden
STOCKHOLM, Sweden - Cheap Monday jeans are a hot commodity among young Swedes thanks to their trendy tight fit and low price, even if a few buyers are turned off by the logo: a skull with a cross turned upside down on its forehead.
"It is an active statement against Christianity," Atldax told The Associated Press. "I'm not a Satanist myself, but I have a great dislike for organized religion."
The label's makers say it's more of a joke, but Atldax insists his graphic designs have a purpose beyond selling denim: to make young people question Christianity, a "force of evil" that he blames for sparking wars throughout history.
"One cannot just keep quiet about this," said the Rev. Karl-Erik Nylund, vicar of St. Mary Magdalene Church in Stockholm. "This is a deliberate provocation (against Christians) and I object to that."
Nylund complained that Swedish companies do not treat Christianity with the same respect in marketing that they afford other religions.
"No one wants to provoke Jews or Muslims, but it's totally OK to provoke Christians," he said.
Cheap Mondays have started to sell abroad. The jeans are being shipped to Norway, Denmark, Britain, the Netherlands, France and Australia. Andersson said they're working on introducing them in the United States and elsewhere.
They'll be defacto-banned in this country. I'm an atheist and I wouldn't buy a pair for fear that some Christian Talibornigan would mow me down with his pickup truck.
hmm...50 bucks to buy a pair of jeans that look just the same as others except the logo is different
Nope.
Forget ban I doubt it'll even sell enough to be worth importing.
The logo is so small its hardly makes any statement. Only the moronic would waste money on something that stupid.
But I wouldn't put it pass a few who would.
Nope.
Forget ban I doubt it'll even sell enough to be worth importing.
The logo is so small its hardly makes any statement. Only the moronic would waste money on something that stupid.
But I wouldn't put it pass a few who would.
Very well than. Get your pass port and move your dumb ass off to Paris France. But you might want to make sure your car is insured for fire once you get there. Your local friendly Muzzies over there like to light up Paris on a nightly basis. Make sure your women folk don't accedently walk into a Muzzie ghetto. Raping non Muzzie women seems to be acceptable practice in most European countries that have large "un asimulated" Muslim populations. I could go on about much of the problems Europe is facing at the moment because of its stupid multicultrial experiment.
So if your a little uneasy with your Christian nieghbors, by all means move off to where ever.
Johny "Dumass" Depp was complaining of the riots in Paris France and was thinking on relocating.
"All good things come to an end sooner or later" like you said. I sure hope you are not meaning Western civilization.
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So "beloved patriot" is not allowed, because it's insulting, but the OP isn't?
Dudes, you had better get your perspectives in line and you know who you are.
Dudes, you had better get your perspectives in line and you know who you are.
this thread and last post of dave is an excellent example of the hostility toward Christianity. Jeans that are sold in another counttry and you "speculate" how Christians here would react? um ok.
don't know if you notice - but Christians for the most part don't care, and won't buy the stuff. A lot Christians don't like Harry Potter - some of them won't *gasp* go see the movies, or read the books!!!
In recent times what group wants to ban things?
guns - people on the left
public displays of Christmas - people on the left
hate speech - people on the left
violent video games - Sentor Hillary Clinton(D), and Joe Libermen(D) (jewish, not christian)
smoking - people on the left (CA, and NY)
And here you are posting just for the sole purpose being derogatory toward Christianity.
I thought troll posting wasn't allowed?
don't know if you notice - but Christians for the most part don't care, and won't buy the stuff. A lot Christians don't like Harry Potter - some of them won't *gasp* go see the movies, or read the books!!!
In recent times what group wants to ban things?
guns - people on the left
public displays of Christmas - people on the left
hate speech - people on the left
violent video games - Sentor Hillary Clinton(D), and Joe Libermen(D) (jewish, not christian)
smoking - people on the left (CA, and NY)
And here you are posting just for the sole purpose being derogatory toward Christianity.
I thought troll posting wasn't allowed?
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So someone is selling jeans with a message. I doubt that it really means that much to the people buying them, religiously or politically, but it is great fodder for people like Dobson, Robertson, etc.
But perhaps it says something about some people's attitude about shoving religion down others' throats.
A belief should not be forced down someone's throat. Even Jesus gave people a choice: "Behold, I knock on the door" (will you let Me in?).
Jesus stayed out of politics and so should the church.
But perhaps it says something about some people's attitude about shoving religion down others' throats.
A belief should not be forced down someone's throat. Even Jesus gave people a choice: "Behold, I knock on the door" (will you let Me in?).
Jesus stayed out of politics and so should the church.
lets add to the list:
science, including evolution - people on the right
free expression by non-Christians, including atheists - people on the right
sex ed - people on the right
pot - people on the right (well, that one's already banned, but who wants to keep it that way?)
gay marriage - people on the right
dissent - people on the right
actually no - te majority want to add ID to the discussion - not to replace evolution. But one camp doesn't even want to discuss it.
They are not banning evolution.
where?
same as evolution - they want to add the abstince to the ciriculem, not ban anything. But once again people in a certain camp want to preven the disucssion of it.
Kind of a non-issue, it is already decided, and the camp wanting to change is still not the majority - hardly a left right issue.
People on the left are trying to change marriage, people on the right are responding to that. Of course defination marriage will also banned poligimus relationships, and incest relationships also banned. Don't figure people who are already married are banned for marring again.
once again where?
The whole point of this thread was to bash american christians, even though they have abosultely nothing to do with the OP, nor is it grounded in reality.
...so how are these different from any other pants? All I've figured out is the logo. True pants have a pretty big variety, but the "black and tight" doesn't seem to be a style that hasn't been done
Basically...its called marketing
Oh, and I do find them offensive as well...I personally think he is serving to further Christianity than not
Basically...its called marketing
Oh, and I do find them offensive as well...I personally think he is serving to further Christianity than not
yeah ebay is selling this stuff also...
I bought my wife a jean shirt. I like the buttons!
Tho, I'm waiting for a jean type jacket with a bigger patch to come out hoping for a 1' x 1' on the back...
I bought my wife a jean shirt. I like the buttons!
Tho, I'm waiting for a jean type jacket with a bigger patch to come out hoping for a 1' x 1' on the back...
quick some one get some black kids to wear them soon all white america will be using them.
lol this going to be fun when hits the US will have from TV / radio / newspapers reporting on how they want to destroy christianity they make such big deal out of it just makes me laugh but at same time pisses me off the stupidity coming out there mouth.
back to drinking my jesus juice.
what u know i found some pics they do look nice
Cheap jeans 1
lol this going to be fun when hits the US will have from TV / radio / newspapers reporting on how they want to destroy christianity they make such big deal out of it just makes me laugh but at same time pisses me off the stupidity coming out there mouth.
back to drinking my jesus juice.
what u know i found some pics they do look nice
Cheap jeans 1
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You forgot:
Medical research -- stem cell research
Personal autonomy and ownership of one's own life and body. -- The Mystics want to ban abortion and advocate keeping assisted suicide and even suicide itself illegal. Many also advocate the illegality of other consensual "crimes", such as prostitution, drug use, and alcohol. In their view the individual is the property of the government or of their god and should not be allowed to have real self-ownership. Thus, the Christians advocate the underlying ethical principal of communism and oppose freedom and individual rights.
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