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Senators "Gloat" Of Pork Spending

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
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Originally posted by: Rainsford
You talk as if government is a problem requiring a solution. I don't see that as an obvious argument, which was my point. Reagan conservatives LOVE to talk about "solving" big government, but when it comes right down to it, they realize that's a better bumper sticker philosophy than a practical one. Government does things, it's not a problem requiring fixing.

Do you love the Patriot Act? Maybe I missed the part where indefinite government growth in size/power WASN?T a problem and wasn?t an ever increasing abuse of human rights.

No, I don't love the PATRIOT ACT...I think we'd be much better off without it. So as a result, my personal view is that we need less PATRIOT ACT, not less "government". Large generalities never quite did it for me, because the world is a lot more interesting than what you can fit on the back bumper of your car. Yes, there are things the government does that I don't like, there are times when I think it goes too far. There are also times when I like what the government does, and I think it doesn't take certain ideas far enough. So the only reasonable approach I can see is to tackle the issues as they come, not trying to come up with some broad brush with which to paint the entire system.

Personally, I think the whole "small government" vs "big government" debate misses the point, just like every debate does when it focuses on "large generality #1" vs "large generality #2". You can't draw some arbitrary line for the appropriate size of the government without making the implicit argument that everything the government does is equally good or equally bad, and that everything should be limited in equal measure because it's all really the same. Since I don't think that argument is defensible or realistic, I have a problem with ANY philosophy that prescribes an appropriate size for government.
 
From Rainsford-

I have a problem with ANY philosophy that prescribes an appropriate size for government.

Heh. That problem is at its worst when we have a "smaller govt" philosophy creating the greatest expansion of govt since the Great Society days...

Bigger military and smaller govt are oppositional terms, as are more security and smaller govt, and a whole lot more of the doublespeak embraced by the rightwing...
 
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
From Rainsford-

I have a problem with ANY philosophy that prescribes an appropriate size for government.

Heh. That problem is at its worst when we have a "smaller govt" philosophy creating the greatest expansion of govt since the Great Society days...

Bigger military and smaller govt are oppositional terms, as are more security and smaller govt, and a whole lot more of the doublespeak embraced by the rightwing...

That's pretty much my point, although I was thinking more of the problem of a government small enough to fit into your bedroom. In any case, the idea that size alone is a determining factor for the quality of a government is silly. I'd much rather have a larger government that does its job well than a smaller government that does nothing except concern itself with what Lance and Bruce are doing in the privacy of their own home.
 
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