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Senate Strips Life Saving Medical Insulin Cap From Inflation Act

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ch33zw1z said:
Not anecdotally speaking

www.cdc.gov

New Adult Obesity Maps

Obesity remains high, varies, by state, and affects some groups more than others.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

Estimate 40-45% obese in KY based on CDC overall map referenced.
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Anecdotally speaking, Xmas eve, I played with the grandchildren, my grandson, is not keen to being held by anyone other than mama or daddy. I've got 2 granddaughters aged 6 and 7, and then my wife's niece's daughter, almost 7 was there too.
Well I played with the grandson by chasing him around the house on my hands and knees, the girls then decided to ride on my back. So I called it papasaurus, moving on.

The heaviest of the 3 girls was the wife's niece's daughter.

To add context, My wife and I get a small amount of assistance for having legal custody of our granddaughters, 200 a mo. My wife's niece has 3 children, probably has around ( I am being generous on the low side here) 2k to 4k on food aide. But she doesn't cook very often. It's mostly MCD ect.

Well her daughter was the heaviest on my back, and was the most insistent on being able to be on my back regardless of turns, dues to absent father issues.

She has got to be about 20 Lbs heavier than my youngest granddaughter, who has a unhealthy relationship with food to begin with. We found out from the older one, when they lived with my son and their "stepmother" the younger one would get food out of the trash can.

We have done a decent job of putting an end to that problem. Due to we don't get an over abundance of aide. While the other one, has thousands of dollars worth of food aide and still is too lazy to cook, and spends the money she should be paying my wife for shop rent on MCD or fast food for her kids,

Long story short, is I could tell the difference on Xmas Eve who was on my back. My knees and back still hurt.

My 7yr old Granddaughter is a bean pole and the 6yr old is lighter than her older cousin.

And this is of course Effing KY.
 
uclaLabrat said:
Because the government controls medicare and thats the only avenue they have for proce controls; dictating what they will pay (or charge). If we had medicare for all (or, hint hint, single payer) it would apply there as well.

Vote single payer.
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But single payer is hard. Only a pitiful 97% of developed countries have managed to implement.

Guess which single country represents the other 3%.
 
The only hope for America's diabetics is Gavin Newsom's plan to make California's own insulin and make it available to other states at a reasonable cost. I bet Republican diabetics are going to hate him anyways though.
 
senseamp said:
The only hope for America's diabetics is Gavin Newsom's plan to make California's own insulin and make it available to other states at a reasonable cost. I bet Republican diabetics are going to hate him anyways though.
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Wonder how they hope to pull this off. Pay a contract manufacturer? Build a plant and get it approved and be in the biotech business? Im intrigued. Hard to be profitable if they can only serve the state but it would serve a larger point: profitability aint the only thing.
 
uclaLabrat said:
Wonder how they hope to pull this off. Pay a contract manufacturer? Build a plant and get it approved and be in the biotech business? Im intrigued. Hard to be profitable if they can only serve the state but it would serve a larger point: profitability aint the only thing.
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calmatters.org

State production will bring down high costs of insulin

Through state-led manufacturing, CalRx will be the backstop for markets that fail to deliver affordable medications for Californians.
calmatters.org calmatters.org

Building plant. Will not be making a lot of money, but saving state insurance MediCal a lot of it. Also will be made available to other states.
 
senseamp said:
calmatters.org

State production will bring down high costs of insulin

Through state-led manufacturing, CalRx will be the backstop for markets that fail to deliver affordable medications for Californians.
calmatters.org calmatters.org

Building plant. Will not be making a lot of money, but saving state insurance MediCal a lot of it. Also will be made available to other states.
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they only need to invest $100M? jesus christ they'll probably make that up in a couple of years *at most*, and then "profit".

10% of californians is ~3.9M people. even at $100/mo, that's a $4.7B/year "market".

i think california is going to be wildly successful, especially if it can build enough capacity to supply other states. they will want in on the savings too
 
Fenixgoon said:
they only need to invest $100M? jesus christ they'll probably make that up in a couple of years *at most*, and then "profit".

10% of californians is ~3.9M people. even at $100/mo, that's a $4.7B/year "market".

i think california is going to be wildly successful, especially if it can build enough capacity to supply other states. they will want in on the savings too
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What are the chances that one of those leeches will sue the state for depriving them of lost income like that town with that setup municipal broadband ? Possible?
 
woolfe9998 said:
AFAIK it only overturned it for certain drugs. Not all of them.
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Correct.

"To be eligible for negotiation, drugs must be among the 100 products costing Medicare the most money, have been on the market at least several years, lack generic competition, and be unaffected by several other exemptions in the law. "

www.npr.org

Legal fights and loopholes could blunt Medicare's new power to control drug prices

The Inflation Reduction Act gives Medicare historic new powers to limit prescription drug prices. But the pharmaceutical industry is already lobbying to dull their impact.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
 
esquared said:
Correct.

"To be eligible for negotiation, drugs must be among the 100 products costing Medicare the most money, have been on the market at least several years, lack generic competition, and be unaffected by several other exemptions in the law. "

www.npr.org

Legal fights and loopholes could blunt Medicare's new power to control drug prices

The Inflation Reduction Act gives Medicare historic new powers to limit prescription drug prices. But the pharmaceutical industry is already lobbying to dull their impact.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
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At least they have it limited based on what is costing Medicare the most. This is, after all, entirely a cost-savings measure for taxpayers, so if they had to limit, that would be the correct way.
 
woolfe9998 said:
At least they have it limited based on what is costing Medicare the most. This is, after all, entirely a cost-savings measure for taxpayers, so if they had to limit, that would be the correct way.
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Still blows my mind though. Probably a non-issue since the top 100 by cost wpuld substantially overlap with the most expensive drugs (except in the case of rare diseasss)
 
brycejones said:
It's because America is exceptional and we shouldn't question American exceptionalism.
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Or is it because America is exceptional in how 0.0000027% of the population exploits the other 99.999997% of the population.

0.0000027% = The number of Americans worth > $100,000,000,000.00
99.999997% = The number of Americans necessary to support our slavery to the few.
 
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MtnMan said:
Or is it because America is exceptional in how 0.0000027% of the population it exploits the other 99.999997% of the population.

0.0000027% = The number of Americans worth > $100,000,000,000.00
99.999997% = The number of Americans necessary to support our slavery to the few.
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Another example of amazing American exceptionalism. We can't change anything because we're already so perfect. Anything else is committing a communism.
 
Fenixgoon said:
they only need to invest $100M? jesus christ they'll probably make that up in a couple of years *at most*, and then "profit".

10% of californians is ~3.9M people. even at $100/mo, that's a $4.7B/year "market".

i think california is going to be wildly successful, especially if it can build enough capacity to supply other states. they will want in on the savings too
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I take back my point about not making much money. Im guessing the plant will run somewhere around $10M/year in overhead, so hell even after the first year if they make even 10% of $4.7B in revenues they'll be swimming in cash.
 
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