Sen. Rand Paul detained by TSA

[spidey07]

Well this probably won't end well for the TSA. Rand has been on a tear about outlandish government nanny state since being elected in 2010. He's one of the greatest people in the Senate currently, I expect him to make an example out of this.

Sen. Rand Paul’s press secretary Moira Bagley tweeted on Monday that Transportation Security Administration officials were detaining her boss in Nashville, Tenn.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/23/report-tsa-detains-sen-rand-paul-in-nashville/#ixzz1kIRLLUjn

 

[child of wonder]

But I like getting felt up by the TSA. Makes me feel like I get to second base every time I fly.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Image scan went off necessitating the pat down which he refused. Like people seem to like to say, don't like, it don't fly. It's the current rules and until that changes it can happen.

 

[spidey07]

Image scan went off necessitating the pat down which he refused. Like people seem to like to say, don't like, it don't fly. It's the current rules and until that changes it can happen.

Let's see if he can turn this into a "teachable moment"

 

[slayernine]

This news is second only to hearing the MPAA openly threaten bought out politicians who have backed down on SOPA and PIPA.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...who-arent-corrupt-enough-to-stay-bought.shtml

I believe the only path to escaping this downward spiral is to elect a Libertarian as President. Ron and Rand Paul are the only thing hopeful about American politics. I think everyone has had enough TSA pat downs and terror alerts. I think we've sued enough single moms and destroyed enough legitimate on-line businesses and websites through ridiculous legislation paid for by corporations and supported by corrupt elected officials.

 

[Anarchist420]

This tyrannical government needs to be abolished and replaced with the Articles of Confederation at most.

I'm sick of it treating innocent people like terrorists. The terrorists are the governments, not "Islamists".

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I wonder if Rand did this in an attempt to get more votes for his daddy.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Image scan went off necessitating the pat down which he refused. Like people seem to like to say, don't like, it don't fly. It's the current rules and until that changes it can happen.

This.

 

[PottedMeat]

I wonder if Rand did this in an attempt to get more votes for his daddy.

unfortunately for him a trillion automated interweb poll votes = 0 real votes :awe:

 

[slayernine]

I wonder if Rand did this in an attempt to get more votes for his daddy.

I think he did it to prove a point, when it comes to private property nothing is more rightly yours than your own body. These overreaching pat downs are a violation of our rights and are yet another slide down the slippery slope of guilty until proven innocent.

Don't let yourself be scared of the terrorists, that is what they want and what the government wants. A nation controlled by fear is no longer a democracy.

 

[monovillage]

Image scan went off necessitating the pat down which he refused. Like people seem to like to say, don't like, it don't fly. It's the current rules and until that changes it can happen.

Oh, well if it's the rules then anything they want to do is fine. It's the rules after all.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Oh, well if it's the rules then anything they want to do is fine. It's the rules after all.

Actually it's the law. And we don't get to pick and choose which laws apply to us as individuals. It is a pretty strait forward concept really.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Actually it's the law. And we don't get to pick and choose which laws apply to us as individuals. It is a pretty strait forward concept really.

Which leads to another straightforward point and that's not support reckless legislation and regulation to begin with.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I think he did it to prove a point, when it comes to private property nothing is more rightly yours than your own body. These overreaching pat downs are a violation of our rights and are yet another slide down the slippery slope of guilty until proven innocent.

Don't let yourself be scared of the terrorists, that is what they want and what the government wants. A nation controlled by fear is no longer a democracy.

Prove what point, he's above the law??

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Which leads to another straightforward point and that's not support reckless legislation and regulation to begin with.

Not saying I like the policy, but it's been there long enough now and with enough publicity that it isn't a secret. Clearly it's not going anywhere anytime soon so if you object to it you can decline to enter a situation where confronted with it until its changed.

This isn't random. The image scan was set off requiring further examination.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Prove what point, he's above the law??

Perhaps it's that the law as it stands is not how things should be handled? Damn, maybe those blacks in the sixties were wrong for not sitting in the back of the bus after all. Obey or be cast out.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Not saying I like the policy, but it's been there long enough now and with enough publicity that it is I secret. Clearly it's not going anywhere anytime soon so if you object to it you can decline to enter a situation where confronted with it until its changed.

This isn't random. The image scan was set off requiring further examination.

The history of our species and government demonstrates that change does not occur unless a situation is confronted. I have already alluded to the Civil Rights movement, where it was outright civil disobedience by breaking of the law that caused government to act. If it was insisted that blacks use separate facilities until laws were changed it wouldn't have happened, or it would have taken a lot longer. One might argue that the magnitude of these situations are different, yet the fact remains that someone had to say "No" before things progressed. In the eyes of the law those who refused to comply were criminals and deserved to be punished.

Personally I'm not affronted by reasonable searches given potential consequences and I'm not siding with Paul since I don't know the particulars, however time and again it has been seen that some TSA personnel have been abusive and yet the situation continues. It will until there is enough pressure applied by our malcontents if that's what one chooses to call them.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Perhaps it's that the law as it stands is not how things should be handled? Damn, maybe those blacks in the sixties were wrong for not sitting in the back of the bus after all. Obey or be cast out.

Get the law changed or comply, it's not that difficult.

Or just make sure you've removed all the metal from your person and the full body scanner won't find an anomaly. I had go through the full body scanner in November last year and wasn't required to get a pat down.

 

[monovillage]

Actually it's the law. And we don't get to pick and choose which laws apply to us as individuals. It is a pretty strait forward concept really.

Hayabusa beat me to it, but here it is again.
What you're saying is that Rosa Parks should have just shut up and obeyed.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Hayabusa beat me to it, but here it is again.
What you're saying is that Rosa Parks should have just shut up and obeyed.

Yes, because clearly there is no difference between the situations. That must be what I'm saying.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Yes, because clearly there is no difference between the situations. That must be what I'm saying.

You have to obey the law because it's the law unless you don't obey because you think you are personally exempt. Or does the law only apply when you think the situation warrants?

 

[momeNt]

One of my greatest joys is going through the image scanner with a big stiffy, to see that and the rest of the TSA I don't know what I would do

 

[RedChief]

Since the Senate is in session....

"The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning
from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place."

Federal agency violates the constitution, is anyone surprised?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

You have to obey the law because it's the law unless you don't obey because you think you are personally exempt. Or does the law only apply when you think the situation warrants?

In the specific circumstance of Rand Paul, which is what we are talking about, he set off the image scanner. It detected an anomaly at his knee that required further investigation. A potential risk or threat was detected.

Would you have had them not examine a potential threat further? Would you have them make arbitrary decisions after a detection on which threats to examine further?

Do I think everyone should be examined with full body pat downs? No. Do I think someone in this circumstance should have been? Absolutely.

If you can't see the diffence between that and the civil rights movement I can't help you.

 

[spidey07]

Since the Senate is in session....

"The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning
from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place."

Federal agency violates the constitution, is anyone surprised?

Wow. Yeah, it could get ugly. Looks like he is indeed exempt from the law when it comes to serving.

Word on the street is his big brass balls set off the scanner.