HD2000 is from 2007
it works because Windows 10 accepts old, Vista+ drivers, you are probably running (from win update) a driver made for Windows 7, with no catalyst control center, like it's the case for my HD 4670
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Sempron 2650 AM1 less-obsolete than A10-6800K FM2...
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HD2000 is from 2007
it works because Windows 10 accepts old, Vista+ drivers, you are probably running (from win update) a driver made for Windows 7, with no catalyst control center, like it's the case for my HD 4670
The famous Gigabyte 78LMT-USB3 AM3/AM3+ board has an integrated Radeon HD3000 GPU chipset. It is fully-compatible only with Windows 7 max. It works for Windows 8.1 and 10 fine, but I will need to set compatibility to Windows 7 each time. Pain in the ass... Sometimes it refuses to install Catalyst Control Center, and not all TV monitors I have accept Radeon HD3000 with Windows 8.1 installation.
Magic Carpet
Diamond Member
Looks like the GCN v1.1 (same arch as R9 290/290X, R9 295X2) found in my A4-5000 APU is moved to legacy as well. Quite ironic 😎
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monstercameron
Diamond Member
The igp in the a4-5000 is based on gcn 1.0 and it is not legacy supported. There were some 8400 gpus that were either mgpus or oem only gpus that might have been vliw based.
Gcn is not legacy yet.
Magic Carpet
Diamond Member
You are mixing things here. A4-5000 is Kabini. GCN 1.1.
According to AMD, at least my GPU has been moved to legacy. If you try to find graphics drivers for A4-5000, you will also be greeted with the legacy warning.
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monstercameron
Diamond Member
Yeah I'm 99% sure that all kabinis, temash, carrizo-l have gcn 1.0. All little core apus use gcn 1.0. Kaveri used 1.1 and carrizo used 1.2.
Magic Carpet
Diamond Member
I stand corrected. Point is, GCN 1.0 is legacy for HD 8000 - 8400 parts (such as A4-5000 APU which is barely couple of years old).
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DrMrLordX
Lifer
Just use the previous driver set. You'll get full OpenCL support. Don't update to the Crimson beta. Though Win10 might force you to . . .
monstercameron
Diamond Member
The whql driver before crimson has win10 enablement. So there is a good stable base for legacy support.
DrMrLordX
Lifer
whew, good. I don't think that Crimson beta will ever be WHQL certified, so Win10 won't slap you with it.
Honestly, all the VLIW4/5 cards and iGPUs will be supported by the legacy driver, which isn't much better or worse than what you get from Nvidia. Not sure what to say about any GCN products being assigned a legacy tag, though. That's a little weird.
Honestly, all the VLIW4/5 cards and iGPUs will be supported by the legacy driver, which isn't much better or worse than what you get from Nvidia. Not sure what to say about any GCN products being assigned a legacy tag, though. That's a little weird.
monstercameron
Diamond Member
Either the webmaster for amd messed up or he isn't looking for the right 8400...which should be the same driver as the r3.
Magic Carpet
Diamond Member
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Insert_Nickname
Diamond Member
Tried the Crimson beta driver on my 6800K. Ran into all sorts of weird issues, so I'd reconsider twice or thrice before installing them. Not recommended.
BTW, OpenCL isn't the only thing affected. Bluray playback gets disabled too, because there is apparently an HDCP issue somewhere in the beta driver. So that doesn't work either.
The Catalyst 15.7.1 still works fine. You're only missing out on the new control panel. Nobody is forcing you to install the Crimson BETA driver. Yet, at least... 😀
Magic Carpet
Diamond Member
AMD datasheet perhaps could clear this up. Sadly, AMD web site provides very little info.
I just updated drivers on my Jaguar SoC and it seems to be supported by the latest driver. Contradicts with the official statement here, however. Looks to be a silly mistake on their part.
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monstercameron
Diamond Member
Yeah the 8000g is vliw Richland era igps.I go by their web site. I haven't physically checked it myself yet.
don't take the AMD website to seriously,
AMD even lists a VLIW5 card as supported by the regular Crimson "AMD Radeon™ R5 230 Series Graphics" (6450 rebrand)
people with it tested and it didn't work, so yes, their compatibility list is not very accurate, I think it's safer to go with GCN = not legacy, VLIW = legacy.
AMD even lists a VLIW5 card as supported by the regular Crimson "AMD Radeon™ R5 230 Series Graphics" (6450 rebrand)
people with it tested and it didn't work, so yes, their compatibility list is not very accurate, I think it's safer to go with GCN = not legacy, VLIW = legacy.
Never will. Most average users are forced to use the older Catalyst software, which is based on Windows 8.1. If this is true, it sounds like to me all the Richland FM2 processors and older recommend up to Windows 8.1 max. Talk about obsolete already, while Sempron 2650 is on its way to Windows 11 easily with new drivers available while being two newer OS ahead.
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BETAs are trial and not official driver release. They're all fake, I think.
from what I tested the win 10 whql driver (from win update) for the DX11 VLIW Radeons is fine, yes it's based on the win 8.1 driver (WDDM 1.3) but it seems to have all working properly,
I don't think they will ever release Crimson legacy WHQL!? so it's probably never going to be installed by win10 update.
coercitiv
Diamond Member
So I guess we went from Vista+ to Win8.1? Interesting.
nothing interesting, one post is talking about DX10 VLIW5 Radeons, the other about DX11 VLIW Radeons.
cbn
Lifer
cbn
Lifer
Regarding VLIW4 (found on the A10-5800K and A10-6800K), Linux might be something to consider.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=steamos-22-gpus&num=3
In the above link, notice how HD6950 (VLIW4) is in between GTX 750 and GTX 750 Ti in performance. This is better than AMD cards normally do in Linux and I would assume this would extend to the rest of the Valve titles (LFD2, TF2, etc) as well. So ***if*** Valve ends up offering extra perks for SteamOS users having a VLIW4 APU or dGPU might be a good thing.
P.S. Looking at the Top 10 Games on Steam six of them are available on Linux (although Dota 2 and Team Fortress 2 are already free on Windows, not sure what additional Valve would offer beyond what MS users already get):
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
Maybe they would make CS:GO free for those using SteamOS? Its $15 normally (and sometimes $5 on sale). This and maybe throw in some SteamOS specific gun skins? Maybe SteamOS specific items for Team Fortress 2 as well?
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=steamos-22-gpus&num=3
In the above link, notice how HD6950 (VLIW4) is in between GTX 750 and GTX 750 Ti in performance. This is better than AMD cards normally do in Linux and I would assume this would extend to the rest of the Valve titles (LFD2, TF2, etc) as well. So ***if*** Valve ends up offering extra perks for SteamOS users having a VLIW4 APU or dGPU might be a good thing.
P.S. Looking at the Top 10 Games on Steam six of them are available on Linux (although Dota 2 and Team Fortress 2 are already free on Windows, not sure what additional Valve would offer beyond what MS users already get):
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
from Steam Link above said:
Maybe they would make CS:GO free for those using SteamOS? Its $15 normally (and sometimes $5 on sale). This and maybe throw in some SteamOS specific gun skins? Maybe SteamOS specific items for Team Fortress 2 as well?
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Yeah but what???? they are selling NOW a legacy APU???!! WTH, the A4-7300 that they sell TODAY is VLIW (HD8470D) and now legacy and non supported?! this is BS.
cbn
Lifer
Yep, that is right.... A4-7300 is a Richland APU (two piledriver cores, 192sp VLIW4 iGPU, dual channel DDR3 1600 controller)
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