"self-immolation", is it the coming trend?

[drebo]

I guess hitting someone hard enough to draw blood is OK then. If you want to defend that as "discipline" I guess its safe to call you a fucked up person.

It's pretty easy to cut a 4-year-old's lip on a tooth. Hell, they do it all the time without any help.

Why do you assume foul play was involved? Did he have a history of violence? A prior record? He wasn't ever sent to prison for it, so it must not have been that bad. In fact, the kid wasn't even removed because of it. If it was really that bad, you'd think that the PD would have done more than just arrest him (you know, like prosecute the case).

The guy was at fault for his marriage going to shit, but a system which, like you, presumes guilt for men in domestic disputes was the catalyst.

If you want to call me fucked up for wanting well-behaved kids and not demonizing half the population just because they have a Y chromosome, that's fine...I'll just try not to be smug when your children are tearing up your house and making everyone around your lives miserable. See how well that "discipline without coersion" thing works. (I'll give you a hint for free: it doesn't.)

 

[the DRIZZLE]

It's hard to know if the guy really deserved his punishment without knowing more detail. But I have seen a lot of similar complaints about the system in other sources. It does seem that through a variety of the policies the system is set up in such a way that a false or unjustified domestic violence complaint can pretty much ruin your life.

 

[RisenZealot]

I believe spanking a child is ok. I'm not saying they should be spanked for every thing they do but sometimes I'd say the situation warrents it.

Now to be clear there is a HUGE difference between beating a child and spanking them. Also to be honest even though I was raised in a very conservative home that believed in spanking I was always taught you NEVER hit a child in the face.

I believe that to this day. I'm sorry I will spank my son if he needs it but I will never smack, spank, slap or swat him in his face. That imo is not justifiable in any situation. One should never hit a child there. The butt is padded. It's not going to cause any permanent damage (shouldn't hit a kid hard enough to cause it anyway) but the head isn't.

 

[dmcowen674]

This guy didn't own a gun so he used a bat.

Still a lot more of this ahead as the country falls further down fast.

Republicans have to be thrilled that he didn't go on the Government tit.


6-19-2011

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110618...lYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDcGFtYW5jbHVic2Zh


WARRINGTON, Pa. – A man clubbed his wife and 7-year-old son to death with a baseball bat before committing suicide on a set of train tracks, authorities said Saturday.

Neighbors told the paper that the Moyers were nice but kept to themselves. They said Christopher Moyer was a freelance computer specialist who worked from home and believed his wife did similar work at home.


Christopher Moyer married Irina Geller in April 2002 while living in Bensalem, and they bought the home on Redstone Drive a year later, according to court records. The paper said court records show no prior criminal charges against the couple and no history of domestic violence.

 

[a777pilot]

Linebacker II was more about getting South Vietnam to agree to the Paris Peace Accords.

Like I said, you know nothing.

 

[guyver01]

lol, so let me get this straight:

People in their 40s-50s that you grew up with are committing suicide en masse? You know several people that have jumped in front of trains? You also know several who have overdosed? And they're all Democrats?

Where do you come up with your bullshit?

Is it really hard to believe that people who know Dave in person would rather kill themselves than continue hearing his crap?

 

[Baasha]

I wonder if the commonality of this in India has anything to do with the Hindu tradition of burning their dead? If I had to guess, I would think so. *shrug*

Cremation has nothing to do with "self-immolation".

Self-immolation is actually a very advanced philosophical construct called Sati. This example in this thread is suicide. No other way to put it. There have been many cases of such suicides in India and elsewhere.

Sati, on the other hand, which is part of Hindu philosophy, refers to the inner heat generated during intense meditation that can eventually burn through the body and one goes through a transformation past the body-mind complex. That is what Sati is. There have been many dumb cases of people being forced to burn at the funeral pyre or people committing suicide through 'self'-immolation yet that is the exact opposite of what Sati actually is.

 

[ichy]

Like I said, you know nothing.

Not sure why I'm responding to your trollish comments, but...

Prior to LB II it was South Vietnam's president who was throwing up the biggest objections to the peace deal that had been cut with the North. The agreement gave the North all sorts of concessions (such as not requiring them to remove all their troops from the South) that the South Vietnamese were not happy with. From what I recall president Thieu gave Kissinger a list of demands that resulted in the North Vietnamese walking away from the negotiating table. They knew that public support for the war in the US was so low that Congress was close to pulling the plug on funding, and they figured they could just wait it out. Linebacker II pushed the North into accepting the same conditions they had already agreed to with a few minor, face-saving adjustments for the sake of the South.

Anyways, I'm sure you'll respond with another juvenile, insulting post that's lacking in any real facts or substance but.