"self-immolation", is it the coming trend?

[busydude]

They're overpopulated making burning the dead cheap, making life sometimes cheap, and making kerosene readily available and cheap.

Yup.. life is not as valued as in the US.

IIRC.. Hindu tradition dictates that suicide is immoral.. and Indian Law states that attempting suicide is a crime. General public think that suicide is a cowardly thing to do.

Immolation is used to gain attention.. and in most cases if a person commits suicide the government compensates(using tax payers money, and commonly referred to as ex gratia) his family. The main reason for suicides in India in ages > 30 are due to financial issues. Dieing is the most easiest way to earn some money for the family. People look down upon a man if he cannot provide food and shelter for the family.. it is his responsibility to take care of them. A person can hit two birds with one stone.. Government pays for his debt and compensates his family(Sadly, that would be the first time for most families to see that much money)

P.S. Personally, I have no respect for these people.. I think they are scum of the land. There may me few unfortunate people who were just unlucky, but most of them are lazy cowards.

 

[a777pilot]

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The North Vietnamese sued for peace and we won, who would have ever thunk it.

Or do we have a case where a777 pilot is simply out of his mind? As North Vietnam walked away with all the marbles.

But behold the power of PR, Nixon walked away with peace with honor, which is a little better than saying we got our ass kicked if we want to tell the truth.

You obviously know nothing of what happened there. You know only what you have been told by the MSM, the Democrats and your own prejudices.

You might want to read, study and understand the mission, outcome and consequences of Linebacker II.

 

[wuliheron]

Yup.. life is not as valued as in the US.

IIRC.. Hindu tradition dictates that suicide is immoral.. and Indian Law states that attempting suicide is a crime. General public think that suicide is a cowardly thing to do.

Immolation is used to gain attention.. and in most cases if a person commits suicide the government compensates(using tax payers money, and commonly referred to as ex gratia) his family. The main reason for suicides in India in ages > 30 are due to financial issues. Dieing is the most easiest way to earn some money for the family. People look down upon a man if he cannot provide food and shelter for the family.. it is his responsibility to take care of them. A person can hit two birds with one stone.. Government pays for his debt and compensates his family(Sadly, that would be the first time for most families to see that much money)

P.S. Personally, I have no respect for these people.. I think they are scum of the land. There may me few unfortunate people who were just unlucky, but most of them are lazy cowards.

In ancient China it was popular for a couple of hundred years to commit suicide by eating a pound of salt, again, in part because it was cheap. Whether these people are cowards or not is a moot point as far as I'm concerned. Even the most vicious dog deserves a better death then that if you can manage it.

 

[dmcowen674]

"self-immolation", is it the coming trend?

Yes it is.

People I grew up with have been posting on Facebook their ends.

Most have been taking overdoses, a couple have jumped in front of trains.

Losing everything you have worked for may be easy for Republicans as it is their desire and design but for most others they would rather die.

 

[Zorkorist]

It is quite common in India.

Also, there is this incident which was widely reported.

Nah, it's not.

Suicide (beyond all the bells and whistles) is available to anyone at any time.

It's not popular.

-John

 

[Zebo]

Growing up my friends dad was a homicide detective and we used to look at his dad's "albums" of hundreds of victims seen a couple immolations and it's not as pic shows. Like this one dude burnt himself up in a bathtub flesh literally melted to the tub and plastics and flesh mixed.

 

[Blackjack200]

Growing up my friends dad was a homicide detective and we used to look at his dad's "albums" of hundreds of victims seen a couple immolations and it's not as pic shows. Like this one dude burnt himself up in a bathtub flesh literally melted to the tub and plastics and flesh mixed.

Who cleans that shit up anyway? That must be a fun job.

 

[Macamus Prime]

My story starts with the infamous slapping incident of April 2001. While putting my four year old daughter to bed, she began licking my hand. After giving her three verbal warnings I slapped her. She got a cut lip. My wife asked me to leave to calm things down.

He harms his child. And his wife is all over it to get his ass out of her life.

And, he considers himself a man, by commiting suicide.

I don't know the entire story. Just what his lengthy letter stated. And, it sounds like he wasn't right in the head.

Also, who smacks a child for licking your hand? She was being playful. This dude was clearly disturbed.

 

[Blackjack200]

He harms his child. And his wife is all over it to get his ass out of her life.

And, he considers himself a man, by commiting suicide.

I don't know the entire story. Just what his lengthy letter stated. And, it sounds like he wasn't right in the head.

Also, who smacks a child for licking your hand? She was being playful. This dude was clearly disturbed.

I read about half of it last night, the guy was bat shit insane. There's one section where he explains the best way to make molotov cocktails and burn down courthouses.

 

[CPA]

What an incredibly sad story... he lost his wife, his kids, his home, everything... all because our system is utterly inept at handling domestic disputes.

Wow. Just wow.

So, it's the system's fault, he shares no responsibility?

 

[CPA]

Yes it is.

People I grew up with have been posting on Facebook their ends.

Most have been taking overdoses, a couple have jumped in front of trains.

Losing everything you have worked for may be easy for Republicans as it is their desire and design but for most others they would rather die.

lol, so let me get this straight:

People in their 40s-50s that you grew up with are committing suicide en masse? You know several people that have jumped in front of trains? You also know several who have overdosed? And they're all Democrats?

Where do you come up with your bullshit?

 

[Thump553]

Talk to any lawyer that does family law for more than a decade and they can tell at least one variation of this sad story. Every in-court shooting or other extreme violence I know of (except one, a kidnapping by escaping prisoners) took place in family court.

A tragedy yes, but nothing to do with politics-from either party.

BTW, Keene, NH is a fantastic little town/city-think modern day Norman Rockwell.

 

[drebo]

You hit your kids, even in a fit of rage(which means you have serious anger problems), the state has a duty to investigate, more so if someone reports it. How the guy wasn't convicted of assault & battery on a child I have no idea as he should have been.

Spanking or slapping a kid that's misbehaving is NOT abuse or assault. What the fuck are you thinking?

As a parent, I have a right to discipline my child, and as long as I don't go overboard (deliberately physically injuring them), you should have no say about it. The child was 4...they generally have lots of teeth and a very small mouth...it's not inconceivable that a slap across the face at the right angle would cut the lip on one of the teeth.

The guy's not altogether wrong, though. In familial disputes, men are almost always assumed to be guilty. Courts always favors putting the children with the mother, even if it's the clearly worse decision. I worked with a guy once whose ex-wife was a homeless drug addict, and the courts still awarded her with custody. He had to spend a lot of money and fight for almost two years to get the kids back. And when he finally did, the state slapped him with the bill for foster care for the kids for the times his ex-wife was in prison and they had refused to let the kids stay with him. How's that for fair? Guy with a full-time job, house, and health insurance gets passed over because of some misguided idea that children are always better off with their mother? Fuck that.

 

[drebo]

So, it's the system's fault, he shares no responsibility?

He probably is partially at fault, sure, potentially making things worse. He admits he made no effort to try and save the marriage. But, the system ultimately is the one that failed. Taking a man's kids away because he disciplined them, and then forcing him to pay child support, is an abortion of justice.

 

[dmcowen674]

lol, so let me get this straight:

People in their 40s-50s that you grew up with are committing suicide en masse? You know several people that have jumped in front of trains? You also know several who have overdosed? And they're all Democrats?

Where do you come up with your bullshit?

No, some are Democrat and some have been Republican.

Most have started with losing job, then house and kids until they end it.

It is all documented on Facebook.

 

[artikk]

No, some are Democrat and some have been Republican.

Most have started with losing job, then house and kids until they end it.

It is all documented on Facebook.

Shut up.

 

[Macamus Prime]

I read about half of it last night, the guy was bat shit insane. There's one section where he explains the best way to make molotov cocktails and burn down courthouses.

And, it's an even bigger problem when the self proclaimed "sane" on these forums support this kind of behavior.

That's it, side with the crazy person setting themselves on fire and making their child bleed for being playful - fucking lunatics.

 

[Wreckem]

Spanking or slapping a kid that's misbehaving is NOT abuse or assault. What the fuck are you thinking?

As a parent, I have a right to discipline my child, and as long as I don't go overboard (deliberately physically injuring them), you should have no say about it. The child was 4...they generally have lots of teeth and a very small mouth...it's not inconceivable that a slap across the face at the right angle would cut the lip on one of the teeth.

The guy's not altogether wrong, though. In familial disputes, men are almost always assumed to be guilty. Courts always favors putting the children with the mother, even if it's the clearly worse decision. I worked with a guy once whose ex-wife was a homeless drug addict, and the courts still awarded her with custody. He had to spend a lot of money and fight for almost two years to get the kids back. And when he finally did, the state slapped him with the bill for foster care for the kids for the times his ex-wife was in prison and they had refused to let the kids stay with him. How's that for fair? Guy with a full-time job, house, and health insurance gets passed over because of some misguided idea that children are always better off with their mother? Fuck that.

The dude smacked the kid in the face multiple times to the point the child was bleeding. Spanking is one thing. Smacking a kid in the face repeatedly is not. Also, if you hit someone especially a child out of rage, you have serious anger problems and need counseling. So shut the fuck up.

He was not right. The court ordered him to counseling. He refused. He suffered the consequences. Everything was his own god damn fault.

 

[ichy]

The North Vietnamese sued for peace and we won, who would have ever thunk it.

Yeah, after we won we renamed Saigon to Ho Chi Minh City.

 

[ichy]

No kidding, we immolated thousands of VC and NVA in Nam and they still didn't give up.

On the other hand we immolated hundreds of thousands of Japanese and there we did win

 

[ichy]

You might want to read, study and understand the mission, outcome and consequences of Linebacker II.

Linebacker II was more about getting South Vietnam to agree to the Paris Peace Accords.

 

[CitizenKain]

Spanking or slapping a kid that's misbehaving is NOT abuse or assault. What the fuck are you thinking?

As a parent, I have a right to discipline my child, and as long as I don't go overboard (deliberately physically injuring them), you should have no say about it. The child was 4...they generally have lots of teeth and a very small mouth...it's not inconceivable that a slap across the face at the right angle would cut the lip on one of the teeth.

If you have to beat your kid, you are a terrible parent. Sorry your parents fucked up and you think its a good thing.

 

[ichy]

If you have to beat your kid, you are a terrible parent. Sorry your parents fucked up and you think its a good thing.

Spanking and beating are not the same.

 

[drebo]

If you have to beat your kid, you are a terrible parent. Sorry your parents fucked up and you think its a good thing.

Who said anything about beating kids?

A slap across the face or a swat on the ass is NOT beating your kid.

Jesus, if yours is the popular conception, no fucking wonder our kids are all spoiled, entitlement-minded, useless brats.

 

[CitizenKain]

Who said anything about beating kids?

A slap across the face or a swat on the ass is NOT beating your kid.

Jesus, if yours is the popular conception, no fucking wonder our kids are all spoiled, entitlement-minded, useless brats.

I guess hitting someone hard enough to draw blood is OK then. If you want to defend that as "discipline" I guess its safe to call you a fucked up person.