"self-immolation", is it the coming trend?

[FoBoT]

this is the spot the man burned himself to death

http://www.sentinelsource.com/news/...cle_cd181c8e-983b-11e0-a559-001cc4c03286.html

http://www.nhpr.org/massachusetts-man-chose-keene-courthouse-death

http://freekeene.com/2011/06/16/thomas-james-ball-self-immolated-in-protest-of-the-justice-system/

On Wednesday June 15 2011, Thomas Ball of Holden, Mass. poured gasoline on himself and lit a match on the steps of the Cheshire County Court House in Keene New Hampshire

Is this what we have to look forward to? People so desperate and divided by politics and the government that they'll choose a horrible fiery death.

My view is that the two american political parties are encouraging people to radicalize and turn on each other in the name of pushing this or that policy.

"Patrick Henry used the phrase in his last public speech, given in March 1799, in which he denounced The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions. Clasping his hands and swaying unsteadily, Henry declaimed, “Let us trust God, and our better judgment to set us right hereafter. United we stand, divided we fall. Let us not split into factions which must destroy that union upon which our existence hangs.” At the end of his oration, Henry fell into the arms of bystanders and was carried almost lifeless into a nearby tavern. Two months afterward, he had died."

the man left a lengthly 'manifesto' which is in the links above, will he be regarded as 'mentally ill' , an anomaly or will there be more violent acts if entitlements are cut or the economy collapses?

 

[nobodyknows]

My story starts with the infamous slapping incident of April 2001. While putting my four year old daughter to bed, she began licking my hand. After giving her three verbal warnings I slapped her. She got a cut lip. My wife asked me to leave to calm things down.

is it really necessary to read any farther then the above quoted paragraph? He acts as if he were training a dog, not a 4 year old.

 

[Infohawk]

 

[Red Dawn]

If it was effective the Teabaggers would be all over it...or not.

 

[Doppel]

Too much reading, his letter was very long and gets very boring.

 

[a777pilot]

It didn't work in Vietnam. There is no freedom there.

 

[Red Dawn]

It didn't work in Vietnam. There is no freedom there.

No kidding, we immolated thousands of VC and NVA in Nam and they still didn't give up.

 

[Doboji]

What an incredibly sad story... he lost his wife, his kids, his home, everything... all because our system is utterly inept at handling domestic disputes.

Wow. Just wow.

 

[CrackRabbit]

At least he decided that he didn't need to take anyone with him.

 

[ahenkel]

That whole goddamn letter is just him blaming other people for his failures and not taking responsibility for his actions.

 

[a777pilot]

No kidding, we immolated thousands of VC and NVA in Nam and they still didn't give up.

Two things.....

Granted I was just a Marine Corps officer that served in Vietnam but I believe the name of the place is Vietnam.

More importantly they did give up. The North sued for peace, i.e., they surrendered.

 

[JSt0rm]

what amazes me about this picture is that monks perfect posture during that. Amazing will.

 

[halik]

holy tldr

 

[davmat787]

I wonder if his fellow monks were thinking that was a job.... "well done"?

But seriously, I don't think self immolation is a trend on the uprise. If you read the guys manifesto, he clearly had a lot of domestic angst coupled with frustration with the .gov. Probably was at the end of his rope, felt on one listened or cared anymore, and that was the only way to truly bring some attention to his plight. Sad, no doubt.

 

[Slew Foot]

Confucius say:

Build a man a fire, and he is warm for a night.

Set a man on fire, and he is warm for the rest of his life.

 

[Lemon law]

Two things.....

Granted I was just a Marine Corps officer that served in Vietnam but I believe the name of the place is Vietnam.

More importantly they did give up. The North sued for peace, i.e., they surrendered.

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The North Vietnamese sued for peace and we won, who would have ever thunk it.

Or do we have a case where a777 pilot is simply out of his mind? As North Vietnam walked away with all the marbles.

But behold the power of PR, Nixon walked away with peace with honor, which is a little better than saying we got our ass kicked if we want to tell the truth.

 

[Lemon law]

Sorry accidental double post.

 

[Wreckem]

Guy brought it on himself. He took the cowards way out killing himself while blaming everyone else for the problems he created.

You hit your kids, even in a fit of rage(which means you have serious anger problems), the state has a duty to investigate, more so if someone reports it. How the guy wasn't convicted of assault & battery on a child I have no idea as he should have been.

Then he didn't follow court orders. You refuse to comply with court orders, you fuck yourself and that is just what he did. If only he complied with the original court order for counseling. He obviously needed it.

Guy gets not sympathy from me, nor does he deserve any because he made poor choices on how to handle his situation.

I am all for fathers rights but this is not a fathers rights case. You hit your kids, you do not pass go. You obey the court and their court ordered counseling.

 

[sportage]

Do I smell bacon?

 

[WhipperSnapper]

At least he decided that he didn't need to take anyone with him.

He failed to obtain justice for himself, but after quickly scanning his letter I can understand why that would have hurt his cause. Perhaps his self-sacrifice will raise some public awareness of discrimination against men.

If it were me I would have just let them put me in jail--screw our retarded society and let the general populace that's responsible for this mess pick up the price tag.

 

[FoBoT]

But seriously, I don't think self immolation is a trend on the uprise. If you read the guys manifesto, he clearly had a lot of domestic angst coupled with frustration with the .gov. Probably was at the end of his rope, felt on one listened or cared anymore, and that was the only way to truly bring some attention to his plight. Sad, no doubt.

yes, so that makes me wonder how he came up with burning himself to death. it is quite rare in the USA, as far as i know.
it occurred to me that he might have chose this due to what happened in Tunisia recently. that guy Mohamed Bouazizi burned himself due to somewhat similar issues, he felt oppressed by the government
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Bouazizi

 

[busydude]

It is quite common in India.

Also, there is this incident which was widely reported.

 

[wuliheron]

Transvestite nun sets self on fire, film at 11:00. SSDD.

 

[davmat787]

It is quite common in India.

Also, there is this incident which was widely reported.

I wonder if the commonality of this in India has anything to do with the Hindu tradition of burning their dead? If I had to guess, I would think so. *shrug*

 

[wuliheron]

I wonder if the commonality of this in India has anything to do with the Hindu tradition of burning their dead? If I had to guess, I would think so. *shrug*

You've got it backwards. They're overpopulated making burning the dead cheap, making life sometimes cheap, and making kerosene readily available and cheap.