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EyeMWing

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A very good friend of mine works in the office/customer service at a Weis (regional supermarket chain). I was picking her up at work a few days ago and decided that I'd like to go buy a bag of chips and some soda. She works till closing, so it's one of her closing responsibilities to pull and count the cash from the self-checkouts, fill the receipt tape, etc. and I felt like messing with her, because it was like, 45 seconds before closing when I got to the registers and she was waiting to pounce on them like a cat (she doesn't get paid for the time she spends taking care of things after closing). So, I went and used the self-checkout she was waiting at.

First and foremost, it would NOT allow me to sit my hand-carried items down without bitching. So, chips and soda on the floor while I dug out my GDMF club card (because they put a 33% markup on everything for non-club members) and scanned it. That worked decently.

Scanned my chips. Put those on the belt. They proceeded to SLOWLY move down the belt to the other end. She told me to hurry up, so I went and scanned the coke and put it on the belt. "PLEASE REMOVE ALL ITEMS FROM THE BELT AND TRY AGAIN! and it proceeded to quickly reverse everything back to my end. Any amount or combination of sitting the items back on the belt wouldn't appease it - it wanted the sh!t re-scanned. Tried that, and then realized that it HAD NOT DELETED THE ORIGINALS. So she had to delete them. And it decided to delete the scan of my club card, too. Start over from the beginning. This time, I waited for the chips to be completely clear of the belt. And then scanned the coke and put it on the belt, which then proceeded to use the case of coke as a weapon to smash my bag of chips against the wall on the other end....

And then it refused to read the mag-strip on my check card (my wallet and I have had a few close encounters with some high power magnetic fields, and as such, some really poor equipment can't read the strips). I had no cash. There is no way to manually enter the CC# on these things. So, she said "You're paying tonight" and stuck in one of HER $10 bills. The machine proceeded to not give correct change. It had been doing that all day, apparently, and nobody had ever brought it to attention.

It took her an hour and a half after closing to account for all the overage in that ONE machine, and then she took care of the other two in an additional half hour. Unfortunately, by this time, every decent place to go eat was closed. So we went to a 24hr McD's drivethrough and sat in the car eating.

So.... If Weis weren't so incredibly stingy that they only paid her and her coworkers up until closing time and no later, they would have expended approximately $42. They also have to pay someone to stand there and fix the damn thing throughout the day when the machines decide to fight the customers, as they did for me. This works out to about 1 minimum wage teenager per machine. This is the same as the staff for operating a NORMAL cash register, which is faster, more efficient, and WORKS ALL THE TIME. And since normal cash drawers are a hell of a lot easier to count than an enormous wad of bills, there's less time spent after closing. Thereby, normal cash registers would be cheaper, both hardware and personnel wise.
 

Eli

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lol..

I'll always use them if there isn't a line waiting. Just easier. Guess I'd rather interact with a machine than a person.
 

FreshPrince

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
A very good friend of mine works in the office/customer service at a Weis (regional supermarket chain). I was picking her up at work a few days ago and decided that I'd like to go buy a bag of chips and some soda. She works till closing, so it's one of her closing responsibilities to pull and count the cash from the self-checkouts, fill the receipt tape, etc. and I felt like messing with her, because it was like, 45 seconds before closing when I got to the registers and she was waiting to pounce on them like a cat (she doesn't get paid for the time she spends taking care of things after closing). So, I went and used the self-checkout she was waiting at.

First and foremost, it would NOT allow me to sit my hand-carried items down without bitching. So, chips and soda on the floor while I dug out my GDMF club card (because they put a 33% markup on everything for non-club members) and scanned it. That worked decently.

Scanned my chips. Put those on the belt. They proceeded to SLOWLY move down the belt to the other end. She told me to hurry up, so I went and scanned the coke and put it on the belt. "PLEASE REMOVE ALL ITEMS FROM THE BELT AND TRY AGAIN! and it proceeded to quickly reverse everything back to my end. Any amount or combination of sitting the items back on the belt wouldn't appease it - it wanted the sh!t re-scanned. Tried that, and then realized that it HAD NOT DELETED THE ORIGINALS. So she had to delete them. And it decided to delete the scan of my club card, too. Start over from the beginning. This time, I waited for the chips to be completely clear of the belt. And then scanned the coke and put it on the belt, which then proceeded to use the case of coke as a weapon to smash my bag of chips against the wall on the other end....

And then it refused to read the mag-strip on my check card (my wallet and I have had a few close encounters with some high power magnetic fields, and as such, some really poor equipment can't read the strips). I had no cash. There is no way to manually enter the CC# on these things. So, she said "You're paying tonight" and stuck in one of HER $10 bills. The machine proceeded to not give correct change. It had been doing that all day, apparently, and nobody had ever brought it to attention.

It took her an hour and a half after closing to account for all the overage in that ONE machine, and then she took care of the other two in an additional half hour. Unfortunately, by this time, every decent place to go eat was closed. So we went to a 24hr McD's drivethrough and sat in the car eating.

So.... If Weis weren't so incredibly stingy that they only paid her and her coworkers up until closing time and no later, they would have expended approximately $42. They also have to pay someone to stand there and fix the damn thing throughout the day when the machines decide to fight the customers, as they did for me. This works out to about 1 minimum wage teenager per machine. This is the same as the staff for operating a NORMAL cash register, which is faster, more efficient, and WORKS ALL THE TIME. And since normal cash drawers are a hell of a lot easier to count than an enormous wad of bills, there's less time spent after closing. Thereby, normal cash registers would be cheaper, both hardware and personnel wise.


sometimes a joke can turn into a mess...hope you got some poon from her anyways :p
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: joedrake
Cliffs?

A self checkout made me take a date to a 24hr McDonalds drive through and I'm once again questioning the economics of the damn things.
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
A very good friend of mine works in the office/customer service at a Weis (regional supermarket chain). I was picking her up at work a few days ago and decided that I'd like to go buy a bag of chips and some soda. She works till closing, so it's one of her closing responsibilities to pull and count the cash from the self-checkouts, fill the receipt tape, etc. and I felt like messing with her, because it was like, 45 seconds before closing when I got to the registers and she was waiting to pounce on them like a cat (she doesn't get paid for the time she spends taking care of things after closing). So, I went and used the self-checkout she was waiting at.

First and foremost, it would NOT allow me to sit my hand-carried items down without bitching. So, chips and soda on the floor while I dug out my GDMF club card (because they put a 33% markup on everything for non-club members) and scanned it. That worked decently.

Scanned my chips. Put those on the belt. They proceeded to SLOWLY move down the belt to the other end. She told me to hurry up, so I went and scanned the coke and put it on the belt. "PLEASE REMOVE ALL ITEMS FROM THE BELT AND TRY AGAIN! and it proceeded to quickly reverse everything back to my end. Any amount or combination of sitting the items back on the belt wouldn't appease it - it wanted the sh!t re-scanned. Tried that, and then realized that it HAD NOT DELETED THE ORIGINALS. So she had to delete them. And it decided to delete the scan of my club card, too. Start over from the beginning. This time, I waited for the chips to be completely clear of the belt. And then scanned the coke and put it on the belt, which then proceeded to use the case of coke as a weapon to smash my bag of chips against the wall on the other end....

And then it refused to read the mag-strip on my check card (my wallet and I have had a few close encounters with some high power magnetic fields, and as such, some really poor equipment can't read the strips). I had no cash. There is no way to manually enter the CC# on these things. So, she said "You're paying tonight" and stuck in one of HER $10 bills. The machine proceeded to not give correct change. It had been doing that all day, apparently, and nobody had ever brought it to attention.

It took her an hour and a half after closing to account for all the overage in that ONE machine, and then she took care of the other two in an additional half hour. Unfortunately, by this time, every decent place to go eat was closed. So we went to a 24hr McD's drivethrough and sat in the car eating.

So.... If Weis weren't so incredibly stingy that they only paid her and her coworkers up until closing time and no later, they would have expended approximately $42. They also have to pay someone to stand there and fix the damn thing throughout the day when the machines decide to fight the customers, as they did for me. This works out to about 1 minimum wage teenager per machine. This is the same as the staff for operating a NORMAL cash register, which is faster, more efficient, and WORKS ALL THE TIME. And since normal cash drawers are a hell of a lot easier to count than an enormous wad of bills, there's less time spent after closing. Thereby, normal cash registers would be cheaper, both hardware and personnel wise.


sometimes a joke can turn into a mess...hope you got some poon from her anyways :p

:roll:
 

Bozono

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I love 'em. All the ones I've used use the scale on either end method(no belt). Always work flawlessly. $60 of groceries paid for in 3 minutes instead of 10.
 

myusername

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1. If the machine tells you to remove all your items and rescan - DON'T DO IT. Just grasp the sides of the scale and bounce up and down a few times.
2. The pay situation you describe is illegal.
3. Yes, self-checkouts suck major ass.
 

FreshPrince

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
A very good friend of mine works in the office/customer service at a Weis (regional supermarket chain). I was picking her up at work a few days ago and decided that I'd like to go buy a bag of chips and some soda. She works till closing, so it's one of her closing responsibilities to pull and count the cash from the self-checkouts, fill the receipt tape, etc. and I felt like messing with her, because it was like, 45 seconds before closing when I got to the registers and she was waiting to pounce on them like a cat (she doesn't get paid for the time she spends taking care of things after closing). So, I went and used the self-checkout she was waiting at.

First and foremost, it would NOT allow me to sit my hand-carried items down without bitching. So, chips and soda on the floor while I dug out my GDMF club card (because they put a 33% markup on everything for non-club members) and scanned it. That worked decently.

Scanned my chips. Put those on the belt. They proceeded to SLOWLY move down the belt to the other end. She told me to hurry up, so I went and scanned the coke and put it on the belt. "PLEASE REMOVE ALL ITEMS FROM THE BELT AND TRY AGAIN! and it proceeded to quickly reverse everything back to my end. Any amount or combination of sitting the items back on the belt wouldn't appease it - it wanted the sh!t re-scanned. Tried that, and then realized that it HAD NOT DELETED THE ORIGINALS. So she had to delete them. And it decided to delete the scan of my club card, too. Start over from the beginning. This time, I waited for the chips to be completely clear of the belt. And then scanned the coke and put it on the belt, which then proceeded to use the case of coke as a weapon to smash my bag of chips against the wall on the other end....

And then it refused to read the mag-strip on my check card (my wallet and I have had a few close encounters with some high power magnetic fields, and as such, some really poor equipment can't read the strips). I had no cash. There is no way to manually enter the CC# on these things. So, she said "You're paying tonight" and stuck in one of HER $10 bills. The machine proceeded to not give correct change. It had been doing that all day, apparently, and nobody had ever brought it to attention.

It took her an hour and a half after closing to account for all the overage in that ONE machine, and then she took care of the other two in an additional half hour. Unfortunately, by this time, every decent place to go eat was closed. So we went to a 24hr McD's drivethrough and sat in the car eating.

So.... If Weis weren't so incredibly stingy that they only paid her and her coworkers up until closing time and no later, they would have expended approximately $42. They also have to pay someone to stand there and fix the damn thing throughout the day when the machines decide to fight the customers, as they did for me. This works out to about 1 minimum wage teenager per machine. This is the same as the staff for operating a NORMAL cash register, which is faster, more efficient, and WORKS ALL THE TIME. And since normal cash drawers are a hell of a lot easier to count than an enormous wad of bills, there's less time spent after closing. Thereby, normal cash registers would be cheaper, both hardware and personnel wise.


sometimes a joke can turn into a mess...hope you got some poon from her anyways :p

:roll:

:roll:
 

SarcasticDwarf

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The self checkouts are usually *decent* if you only have an item or two, but anything else is a pain in the arse. They have an estimated weight of each item and requires you to do stupid things. Some of them have a bagging area at the end. You have to place each item on there **AFTER** you have already scanned it. Now, it you have a bunch of bulky items (such as TP), this can require you to make a large mound.
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: myusername
1. If the machine tells you to remove all your items and rescan - DON'T DO IT. Just grasp the sides of the scale and bounce up and down a few times.
2. The pay situation you describe is illegal.
3. Yes, self-checkouts suck major ass.

1. How the heck did you figure THAT out? And I think she would have run away from me crying :p
2. Duh? She's too nice to kick the powers that be in the nuts.
3. w00t.
 

Legendary

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I used to work at a grocery store, and I can basically scan and bag everything faster than the monkeys at my grocery store can. And I'll do it the right way, separated meats, cold with cold, something they just can't understand.
 

DVK916

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
The self checkouts are usually *decent* if you only have an item or two, but anything else is a pain in the arse. They have an estimated weight of each item and requires you to do stupid things. Some of them have a bagging area at the end. You have to place each item on there **AFTER** you have already scanned it. Now, it you have a bunch of bulky items (such as TP), this can require you to make a large mound.

That is a crapy self check out system then.

All of the ones I use you scan bag, and place the bag back into your cart. No dealing with belts or other things. So much eaiser and faster than waiting in the people line. The only problem is when you have idiots who don't know how to use it in front of you.
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
sometimes a joke can turn into a mess...hope you got some poon from her anyways :p

:roll:

:roll:

No, really, if you're concerned about whether or not you're going to be getting any after any given event, you need to re-check your priorities.
 

tweakmm

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Multi-part post:
1)I've had no trouble at all with self-checkout machines.

2)YOU'RE BACK!!!!!!1!!!!!!!111!!!!:heart::lips:
 

FreshPrince

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1. go online & place order
2. pay with cc online
3. store clerk places all items you orders in bags nicely
4. go to store, pick up

this is a much easier shopping experience :D

when I used to work for Webvan, step 4 was us delivering your crap to your door and put it in your fridge for you if you want :p too bad it was an idea ahead of it's time :(
 

conehead433

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: myusername
2. The pay situation you describe is illegal.

It sure does sound illegal.

Not if she were a salaried employee. That said, I seriously doubt anyone working in most grocery stores other than top management would be on a salary.
 

jagec

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I like 'em, because the lines are very short, and I don't come home with 8 items in 16 plastic bags like if THEY bag your stuff.
 

clamum

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I always use the ones at Wal-Mart which work good. The only thing I don't like is they don't seem to be able to scan in bottle return receipts without an employee's assistance.
 

Eli

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LOL!

Finally read the post. That's awesome. So did you hit it? ;)