Seems Audi is on a roll...

[Fenixgoon]

now this might be an asinine question, but if you were buying a 70k A6/5series, why wouldn't you just get a CTS-V and lolol all over them?

seems kinda ridiculous to be paying that kind of coin and not getting as much performance as you could, but i suppose if you're going for outright luxury, then a fully optioned A6/535/GS/(insert MB here) is the way to go.

 

[punjabiplaya]

now this might be an asinine question, but if you were buying a 70k A6/5series, why wouldn't you just get a CTS-V and lolol all over them?

seems kinda ridiculous to be paying that kind of coin and not getting as much performance as you could, but i suppose if you're going for outright luxury, then a fully optioned A6/535/GS/(insert MB here) is the way to go.

Yep, that's what I was thinking too. The CTS-V is soooooooooooooooooo much car for the money when you compare it to the Germans.

 

[alkemyst]

now this might be an asinine question, but if you were buying a 70k A6/5series, why wouldn't you just get a CTS-V and lolol all over them?

seems kinda ridiculous to be paying that kind of coin and not getting as much performance as you could, but i suppose if you're going for outright luxury, then a fully optioned A6/535/GS/(insert MB here) is the way to go.

For most 0-60 and quarter mile times don't matter.

Audi has probably the best fit and finish in the market segment. Plus a ton of technology.

 

[punjabiplaya]

For most 0-60 and quarter mile times don't matter.

Audi has probably the best fit and finish in the market segment. Plus a ton of technology.

They don't care about the fit and finish either. They care about the BADGE.

 

[alkemyst]

They don't care about the fit and finish either. They care about the BADGE.

not really. Most are not blindly buying badges at least down here. It's a very competitive market and one of the biggest locations for high end car sales.

People are quick to flip cars even prior to a year old.

 

[alkemyst]

Yep, that's what I was thinking too. The CTS-V is soooooooooooooooooo much car for the money when you compare it to the Germans.

Only in performance. If you have been in even the latest CTS-V, the panels don't line up always perfectly and the stitching also doesn't line up evenly from the dash to the doors like most european cars.

It's typical though, the US used to always put the 'cost' into the engine/drivetrain and the europeans into the fit and finish.

Both nipping at each other's heals in the end.

The CTS-V is an awesome car, but to get to it's end it gave up a bit to land at it's price point.

 

[Imdmn04]

now this might be an asinine question, but if you were buying a 70k A6/5series, why wouldn't you just get a CTS-V and lolol all over them?

seems kinda ridiculous to be paying that kind of coin and not getting as much performance as you could, but i suppose if you're going for outright luxury, then a fully optioned A6/535/GS/(insert MB here) is the way to go.

Different cars for different segments. CTS-V is for going fast, A6 is for getting around town with a conservative image with lots of creature comforts, and it is still fast enough for 90% of the population.

The decked-out $70K A6 has options that are not even available on the CTS. Like the infrared and HUD system, radar based driver assistance system, etc.

Plus, a reasonably equipped A6 is about $55k, not $70K.

 

[pwnagesarus]

Only in performance. If you have been in even the latest CTS-V, the panels don't line up always perfectly and the stitching also doesn't line up evenly from the dash to the doors like most european cars.

It's typical though, the US used to always put the 'cost' into the engine/drivetrain and the europeans into the fit and finish.

Both nipping at each other's heals in the end.

The CTS-V is an awesome car, but to get to it's end it gave up a bit to land at it's price point.

I may be wrong but do the Audi A6 and BMW 5 series still have options such as leather stitched dash? I was playing around with the Jag configurator and noticed they offered that.

 

[Monster_Munch]

People who buy luxury saloon cars like the A6 don't really care about 0-60 times as much as they care about being comfortable while cruising long distances.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Posh Skoda.

 

[alkemyst]

I may be wrong but do the Audi A6 and BMW 5 series still have options such as leather stitched dash? I was playing around with the Jag configurator and noticed they offered that.

Alot of premium options are reserved for flagship models and by inquiring at the dealer. People wonder how porsches are bought by those with Ferrari budgets until they fully option one out.

 

[PricklyPete]

Posh Skoda.

Like this one? ...

http://www.dieselstation.com/wallpa...skoda-fabia-s2000-rally-car-widescreen-01.jpg

yes please

 

[PlasmaBomb]

It's a direct injection problem so the new V6 will suffer from the affects, it's too new to tell how bad, but now that the cat's out of the bag many Audi owners are discovering the reasons their cars feel less powerful.

Forced induction seems to slow it, but the 2.0T still suffers from it.

It's a serious problem that most don't know about. Stuff like ACE IV and the like is supposedly a solution, but I haven't read enough yet on that.

I thought that manufacturers were getting on top of that now (DI issues that is).

You have an Audi now don't you (technically the wife's)? How is it getting on or are there still too few miles on it?

 

[coxmaster]

Holy moly. That's some serious carbon buildup

As somebody else mentioned, that was from the older FSI motor (which i have )

The carbon buildup was/is an issue with the FSI but its not as big of a problem as the forums make it out to be because very few people ever end up noticing or having a problem.

 

[punjabiplaya]

rev the shit out of it once in a while. even if it doesn't really remove the carbon, do it anyways

 

[alkemyst]

I thought that manufacturers were getting on top of that now (DI issues that is).

You have an Audi now don't you (technically the wife's)? How is it getting on or are there still too few miles on it?

Wife didnt like the A3 hatch, likes the happy guppy look if the Mazda 3.

I did the research being interested in the S5 or RS4 for myself.

 

[PricklyPete]

I thought that manufacturers were getting on top of that now (DI issues that is).

You have an Audi now don't you (technically the wife's)? How is it getting on or are there still too few miles on it?

I don't think Alky's wife ever got an A3...I think she is still waiting to get a Mazda 3 instead.

My wife does drive a 2010 A4 with the latest version of the Audi 2.0TFSI. I expect we will be keeping the car for a long time (with either her or me driving it). I will certainly keep the forum updated if it all goes to shit. If this becomes a regular occurrence on VAG products, I could see a class action suit at some point down the line. They were an early adopter with regard to using DI en masse in their system...and it looks like at least the first versions of this motor had issues. I'm interested in how these later versions pan out. Besides that potential problem, the engine has been a peach. Great gas mileage and fantastic power for its duties. I posted a few months ago how we easily got 35mpg going 70+ on a 10 hour trip with AWD. I think that's pretty impressive for the power of the engine and the weight of the car.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2155354&highlight=

 

[Throckmorton]

35mpg? Really?

How does Audi manage such good gas mileage? Subaru sure as hell can't with their AWD cars.

 

[jlee]

35mpg? Really?

How does Audi manage such good gas mileage? Subaru sure as hell can't with their AWD cars.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/auto-shows/new-york/2012-subaru-impreza
"2012 Subaru Impreza - 2011 New York Auto Show
Introducing America’s most fuel-efficient all-wheel-drive passenger car."

 

[Throckmorton]

http://www.roadandtrack.com/auto-shows/new-york/2012-subaru-impreza
"2012 Subaru Impreza - 2011 New York Auto Show
Introducing America’s most fuel-efficient all-wheel-drive passenger car."

Only 148hp though

 

[punjabiplaya]

and only ~$20k ish

 

[PricklyPete]

Wife didnt like the A3 hatch, likes the happy guppy look if the Mazda 3.

I did the research being interested in the S5 or RS4 for myself.

Current S5 with the V8 does not have direct injection as far as I remember.

 

[PricklyPete]

35mpg? Really?

How does Audi manage such good gas mileage? Subaru sure as hell can't with their AWD cars.

If you read my post about it...you will see that the car computer was slightly overstating the mileage and that I calculated an average of 34.41 at the pump. Still impressive to me. I can't give any specific reasons this setup is better than a Subaru, but I attribute a lot of it to the engine and maybe the ZF 6spd auto that locks up to reduce drivetrain loss.

 

[jlee]

Only 148hp though

Still blows your "sure as hell" theory out of the water.

 

[PricklyPete]

Still blows your "sure as hell" theory out of the water.

Also, the Audi is not rated at 35 either...that is just what we got on that trip. We regularly get 33+ on the highway with it...and that is going at a respectable speed. I'm sure the Subaru can outdo its number under conditions that suit it as well.