See what 50 years will do

[Alone]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
No. The person who starts the fight should be hit with the suspension. In many areas, both students are suspended in a fight, even if one was just defending himself.

According to the school, fighting back isn't necessary if you can get a teacher.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Ah, progress

 

[BigJelly]

My dad kept his .22 in his locker. He was on the shooting team.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Alone
All of the 2006 examples are way too extreme. SWAT for a fight? FBI/Homeland for blowing up an antfarm?

The Walmart I worked at called for a bomb squad because there was a brown lunchbag with a blinking red light inside left beneath the punch clock. Everyone knows that when you're building a bomb, it must either tick or blink.
Apparently, someone took the LED circuitry from a display that was being trashed, and he left the bag there.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: Alone
According to the school, fighting back isn't necessary if you can get a teacher.

The teachers can't do anything unless they actually see it. Let's take this situation... student A is on lunch break, and could be anywhere from the basketball courts to the cafeteria to the grass fields. Student B feels like picking a fight, and since student B knows playground politics he does it in an area where there aren't many people around. Student A runs away and tells on student B, to a teacher or yard duty or whatever. No one was there to see it, so the teacher asks student B if he picked a fight. If he's a good liar, he says no and the teacher just says whatever. If he's not quite as convincing, he's taken to the principal office and then a principal asks him if he picked a fight. He still says no and with no witnesses they can only keep him in the office until lunch ends. Along comes a new day and he repeats the process.

The whole "Tell a teacher" thing is complete BS. Either they aren't there, they don't care, or they're a member of the PTA and it's their kid that is picking fights.

 

[Canai]

We sure have come a long way eh?

 

[JS80]

aww crap it's forreal

13 year old girl arrested for writing on desk

 

[Hyperlite]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: Alone
According to the school, fighting back isn't necessary if you can get a teacher.

The teachers can't do anything unless they actually see it. Let's take this situation... student A is on lunch break, and could be anywhere from the basketball courts to the cafeteria to the grass fields. Student B feels like picking a fight, and since student B knows playground politics he does it in an area where there aren't many people around. Student A runs away and tells on student B, to a teacher or yard duty or whatever. No one was there to see it, so the teacher asks student B if he picked a fight. If he's a good liar, he says no and the teacher just says whatever. If he's not quite as convincing, he's taken to the principal office and then a principal asks him if he picked a fight. He still says no and with no witnesses they can only keep him in the office until lunch ends. Along comes a new day and he repeats the process.

The whole "Tell a teacher" thing is complete BS. Either they aren't there, they don't care, or they're a member of the PTA and it's their kid that is picking fights.

it sucks. personally, if someone is going to pick a fight with me, i'm going to stomp their a$$ out regardless of the consequences. who is honestly going to run from a fight and get a teacher anyway unless they are getting pounded and can make a getaway?

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
it sucks. personally, if someone is going to pick a fight with me, i'm going to stomp their a$$ out regardless of the consequences. who is honestly going to run from a fight and get a teacher anyway unless they are getting pounded and can make a getaway?

That's basically what I'm saying, running is rarely an option.

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: JS80
aww crap it's forreal

13 year old girl arrested for writing on desk

Vandalism is a big problem in schools. I'm glad they're making a serious issue out of it, because any of the talks the teachers/principals ever gave had convinced us to stop.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: Alone
That's basically what I'm saying, running is rarely an option.

So then how are you supposed to tell a teacher if you can't run to one? It's not like the vast majority of fights occur in the classroom when the teacher is speaking to the class. The only real option is to fight back.

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: Alone
That's basically what I'm saying, running is rarely an option.

So then how are you supposed to tell a teacher if you can't run to one? It's not like the vast majority of fights occur in the classroom when the teacher is speaking to the class. The only real option is to fight back.

You're completely missing my point. I said telling a teacher is the "right" thing to do, but it's rarely the thing you really should do in this case.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Alone
All of the 2006 examples are way too extreme. SWAT for a fight? FBI/Homeland for blowing up an antfarm?

Here's reality: When I was little, we'd carry our BB guns to the woods and go shooting. We'd also play with firecrackers. Nowadays, the police would be at your door.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: thecrecarc
i can see that. but 2 kids with no weapons? i dont think so.

Yeah, although the whole school system still is BS. At the public schools I went to any sign of blood in a fist fight (minor scrapes from falling included) means a week of suspension for both kids.

Any kind of fighting should be punished by suspension. If you want to fight, fine, but do it somewhere other than school.

The problem with the "zero tolerance" policies is that there's no room for interpretation. I could run over to you and deck you, and we both get suspended.

 

[potato28]

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: JS80
aww crap it's forreal

13 year old girl arrested for writing on desk

Vandalism is a big problem in schools. I'm glad they're making a serious issue out of it, because any of the talks the teachers/principals ever gave had convinced us to stop.

Lockers and halls are one thing, but a desk? It can be washed off...

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: potato28

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: JS80
aww crap it's forreal

13 year old girl arrested for writing on desk

Vandalism is a big problem in schools. I'm glad they're making a serious issue out of it, because any of the talks the teachers/principals ever gave had convinced us to stop.

Lockers and halls are one thing, but a desk? It can be washed off...

The writing, maybe, but when people carve words and whatnot into them? No, those won't just "buff right out".

 

[alimoalem]

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
No. The person who starts the fight should be hit with the suspension. In many areas, both students are suspended in a fight, even if one was just defending himself.

According to the school, fighting back isn't necessary if you can get a teacher.

do you ever get tired of thinking you're right?

btw, it's obvious you've never been in a fight

 

[lyssword]

Ah, the good ol days. Would be so awesome to grow up in 50's.. Unless of course I happen to be anything other than white/anglosaxon/etc..

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: alimoalem

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
No. The person who starts the fight should be hit with the suspension. In many areas, both students are suspended in a fight, even if one was just defending himself.

According to the school, fighting back isn't necessary if you can get a teacher.

do you ever get tired of thinking you're right?

btw, it's obvious you've never been in a fight

I've been in several, and won some, lost more. What's your point? If you kept reading, you'd see that I agree that for a kid in school, pussying out of a fight isn't the solution and won't work out in the kids favor.

 

[Jawo]

ha ha ha...the sorry state of our society!

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: JS80
aww crap it's forreal
13 year old girl arrested for writing on desk

Vandalism is a big problem in schools. I'm glad they're making a serious issue out of it, because any of the talks the teachers/principals ever gave had convinced us to stop.

There's no freakin' way you are serious about this. First of all, you take a joke thread too seriously. And now, you will be telling us that it's perfectly fine for a 13-year-old to be arrested for writing/carving the words OKAY on her desk.
:disgust:

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
And now, you will be telling us that it's perfectly fine for a 13-year-old to be arrested for writing/carving the words OKAY on her desk.
:disgust:

She committed a crime and was punished for it. She knew what she was doing and she knew it was wrong. If not, then kids are worse off than I thought.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

*at a loss for words*

It must really suck to be a kid in the 21st century

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
And now, you will be telling us that it's perfectly fine for a 13-year-old to be arrested for writing/carving the words OKAY on her desk.
:disgust:

She committed a crime and was punished for it. She knew what she was doing and she knew it was wrong. If not, then kids are worse off than I thought.

No wonder you're "alone"

 

[George P Burdell]

:thumbsup: