See If You Can Spot the Difference, Kids . . .

Perknose

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In the approach the arresting officer used in these two stops below:

Stop # 1.

Stop # 2.

Now, in stop #1, we don't know exactly what went down in the supposed road rage incident prior to the stop. Nevertheless, the arresting, off duty cop who was involved in the incident (and may well have contributed his own bit of "road rage" during it) was absolutely out of bounds when he didn't give the driver even time to take off his seat belt and comply before assaulting him.

In stop #2, I will say that if I were the arresting officer, I would have handled the stop pretty much exactly the same way . . . with patience, forbearance and tact. That said, directly coming from watching the vid of stop #1, the extreme deference he showed was hard to watch. :(

I'm not making any hard and fast, absolutist conclusions from these two incomplete and anecdotal videos, but the difference in approach was, on the surface, hard for me to personally stomach, watching one right after the other (Thanks, youtube, you purveyor of voyeuristic non-sexual, real life, Florida--man style pornography.)

Hey, I know, I know, this is :p&N and folks on both sides of the ideological spectrum will now step in and yell at each other and nothing much will be "solved," but . . . UGH, is what I'm subjectively saying. :(
 

buckshot24

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In the second video, is that the guy from Deliverance? Or maybe Slingblade. Mmmhmm.
I think it was this guy.

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Blue_Max

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Totally not cherry-picked to prove a narrative. Nope. Not at all. Systemic racism, folks. Proof positive!
 
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xthetenth

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Totally not cherry-picked to prove a narrative. Nope. Not at all. Systemic racism, folks. Proof positive!

I'm sorry, you seem to have gotten very lost. This thread is about why what happened to one person is just totally unacceptable. No conditionals, just a flat out what the hell is this.

Why, pray tell, did you think it was about race? Is it a guilty conscience? Do you even have one of those any more?
 

buckshot24

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I'm sorry, you seem to have gotten very lost. This thread is about why what happened to one person is just totally unacceptable. No conditionals, just a flat out what the hell is this.

Why, pray tell, did you think it was about race? Is it a guilty conscience? Do you even have one of those any more?
Have you ever read this forum before?
 

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@J.Wilkins: Blue Max is...special. He's Canadian, but he's got one of the worst cases of "helphelp i'm being oppressed, woe is me the white male!" I've ever seen. He shits all over every single thing his country has given him that keeps him alive and healthy, and he has a particular obsession with women and problems therewith.

I really cannot do him justice with a description; you have to look at his post history to get the real, pardon me, flavor of this crap.
 

Azuma Hazuki

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Yeah about the only way Maxi-pad could hate me more is if I were a Communist and a Muslim with interest in vidyagaems. I'd love to see his whiny loser ass survive in the US.
 
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xthetenth

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I really cannot do him justice with a description; you have to look at his post history to get the real, pardon me, flavor of this crap.

To call his posting crap would be to insult the valuable service provided by healthy gut flora and the valuable fertilizing capability of feces.
 
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Blue_Max

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@J.Wilkins: Blue Max is...special. He's Canadian, but he's got one of the worst cases of "helphelp i'm being oppressed, woe is me the white male!" I've ever seen. He shits all over every single thing his country has given him that keeps him alive and healthy, and he has a particular obsession with women and problems therewith.
I really cannot do him justice with a description; you have to look at his post history to get the real, pardon me, flavor of this crap.

...well, that's HER opinion, anyway. ;) Most of it just make-believe of what she imagines me to be in order to easily dismiss anything I (or anyone else like me) have to say.

"You disagree?? You must be a monster!!"
 

Azuma Hazuki

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Your post history speaks for itself, Maxi-pad. And every time you swing by, drop trou, and dump another turd like this, you only prove my point for me, better than anything I could ever say or do would prove it.

Part of your insanity is the delusion that you're somehow the smartest person in the room. This is common to degenerates, and I'll never understand why.
 
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@J.Wilkins: Blue Max is...special. He's Canadian, but he's got one of the worst cases of "helphelp i'm being oppressed, woe is me the white male!" I've ever seen. He shits all over every single thing his country has given him that keeps him alive and healthy, and he has a particular obsession with women and problems therewith.

I really cannot do him justice with a description; you have to look at his post history to get the real, pardon me, flavor of this crap.

Well, I would but ... He's not worth it, is he? I'd have him pegged as a Tom Nolan fanboy from another post he made and that in and of itself makes him a completely useless human being in every perspective.
 
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J.Wilkins

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Nope. Cop's being racist is a theme around here.

Well in another thread he defended the statement that they are not by ignoring reality and going by sheer numbers ignoring that there are 4x as many whites as blacks in the nation.

If it's 50/50 and the white people outnumber the black people with 4:1 wouldn't you say that there may be something to it? If you say that it's not correct and it has more to do with poverty than race then let's use that metric in every instance, Blue_Max doesn't do that and from what I've seen with your argument that Blacks have a different attitude than whites you don't do that either.

That in and of itself makes you a blatant racist whether you want to admit it or not.
 
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J.Wilkins

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Your post history speaks for itself, Maxi-pad. And every time you swing by, drop trou, and dump another turd like this, you only prove my point for me, better than anything I could ever say or do would prove it.

Part of your insanity is the delusion that you're somehow the smartest person in the room. This is common to degenerates, and I'll never understand why.

"Maxi-Pad" HAH! I like you... I shall kill you last.
 
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Well in another thread he defended the statement that they are not by ignoring reality and going by sheer numbers ignoring that there are 4x as many whites as blacks in the nation.

If it's 50/50 and the white people outnumber the black people with 4:1 wouldn't you say that there may be something to it? If you say that it's not correct and it has more to do with poverty than race then let's use that metric in every instance, Blue_Max doesn't do that and from what I've seen with your argument that Blacks have a different attitude than whites you don't do that either.

That in and of itself makes you a blatant racist whether you want to admit it or not.
Outnumber them in prison? I did post about socioeconomic status in that other thread today.
 

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To Blue Max's credit (can't believe I just said that!) you'd have a better argument if these 2 stops were the exact same cop... But the first is from Florida and the second from Michigan, so you've got regional variations at play too.
 

xthetenth

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^As far as I get it, he's remarking on just how utterly unacceptable the first interaction was and offering the second as a counterexample. Everything else is Maxi's imaginings because he feels the need to be a brave crusader against some ill-defined horde.

...well, that's HER opinion, anyway. ;) Most of it just make-believe of what she imagines me to be in order to easily dismiss anything I (or anyone else like me) have to say.

"You disagree?? You must be a monster!!"

Every single time I post in reply to you, I'm offering a model on how to deal with someone who doesn't engage with the arguments they're presented with and instead imagines enemies to rail against.

That you still haven't managed to even get the basic form down is so disappointing that I'm going to have to withdraw my congratulations on being able to get your self-esteem back in one of your overlong videos.
 
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Yeah about the only way Maxi-pad could hate me more is if I were a Communist and a Muslim with interest in vidyagaems. I'd love to see his whiny loser ass survive in the US.

He dreams of being the next "based stickman". It has to remain a dream though as he doesn't seem the type to actually be on 'the front line'.
 
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Blue_Max

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Every single time I post in reply to you, I'm offering a model on how to deal with someone who doesn't engage with the arguments they're presented with and instead imagines enemies to rail against.
That you still haven't managed to even get the basic form down is so disappointing that I'm going to have to withdraw my congratulations on being able to get your self-esteem back in one of your overlong videos.
To call his posting crap would be to insult the valuable service provided by healthy gut flora and the valuable fertilizing capability of feces.
...so that's the basic argumentative form we're to all follow, eh? Top-shelf stuff there.