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SecuROM Discussion (old)

Fight the power! Secure rom, project echelon, digital millennium copyright act, patriot act, and star force no more!



 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
You have to restart your computer to play securom titles after using tools from sysinternals.

NeverWinter Nights 2 players, such as myself, are angry about SecuROM as well:
http://www.ataricommunity.com/...howthread.php?t=542650


The best advice that I can give to people wanting to play their legally purchased games with valid license keys without the CDs / DVDs is to look into Alcohol 52%:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...key=y&keyword1=alcohol
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This isn't an issue of not being able to play games without CDs, I don't do that. This is an open beta, so there is no CD at all.

I see what you're getting at though, it's good advice. Alcohol 52% is pretty sweet.
 
Task Manager will show you RAM and CPU usage for a game without triggering anti-hacking code.

But it's a free country, so rage against the machine while I enjoy playing the DRM'd games you reject 🙂
 
I spent forever trying to get NWN2 to work and I had to uninstall half my software and hardware to do it. Then with the next patch, it didn't play no matter what I did. I wasted so much time on it, Atarti should have been paying me rather than the other way around.
 
Better learn to use Linux then, and give up gaming. DRM isn't going away, unfortunately. I'd say that not being their products is a good thing, and it is, but it won't make much difference at all. There are far too many people out there who simply don't care and will install the latest piece of DRM laden software regardless.
 
Maybe I'm lucky, but I've never liked any SecuRom 'equiped' game enough to buy it. Probably contemplated buying NWN 2 for a while, however, I never went through with it. Hope they phase the crap out quicker.
 
Originally posted by: Imp
Maybe I'm lucky, but I've never liked any SecuRom 'equiped' game enough to buy it. Probably contemplated buying NWN 2 for a while, however, I never went through with it. Hope they phase the crap out quicker.
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You may have played a game demo (yes, securom titles' demos are infected as well and SecuROM remains even after you uninstall the demo) or a standalone game that uses secuROM without knowing (since it so stealthily installs itself).

A quick check to see if it is on your system would be to look for SecuROM entries with RootKit Revealer
 
Note that FEAR uses Securom. That's how I got it. It takes some work to get rid of it too, much more than Starforce. I had to use a third party program called Unlocker to remove all its files, and some registry entries are still there since Regedit can't read them correctly.

Apparently, that damn SecuROM that I had un-installed about 2 months prior to installing World In Conflict had been reinstalled again with the game, and now I cannot run the game because it says "SecuROM has detected a process explorer instance running in the background" or some BS. Apparently they don't want me seeing what's being run on my system while I play their game.
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I guess they don't want you to see their UAService7.exe in the background. This is exactly what viruses and malware try to do. :roll:
 
Wow, it flags process explorer?! This is a completely legit tool from MICROSOFT DEVS (I believe they acquired sysinternals awhile back). That is ridiculous.
 
Originally posted by: Skacer
Wow, it flags process explorer?! This is a completely legit tool from MICROSOFT DEVS (I believe they acquired sysinternals awhile back). That is ridiculous.
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Sysinternals is indeed part of Microsoft and SecuROM does have Microsoft's Process Explorer blacklisted.
 
Originally posted by: Skacer
Wow, it flags process explorer?! This is a completely legit tool from MICROSOFT DEVS (I believe they acquired sysinternals awhile back). That is ridiculous.
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That's exactly what I was going to post next. It's crazy that we have to deal with this to play games we've obtained legally.

On another note, I'm a huge fan of FEAR, too... I guess it's possible to play it without SecuROM, though, with some tweaking. At least, that's what I've been told by friends.

I'm very happy with a couple companies that have actually released patches that remove their DRM protection, due to consumer pressure. It's a good move, and more companies should take to it. That's a good way to win back the "idealist" gamer.
 
If you're willing to use cracks, you can deal with the singleplayer games easily. I don't play any Securom 7 games online, so this works well for me.

I'm very happy with a couple companies that have actually released patches that remove their DRM protection, due to consumer pressure. It's a good move, and more companies should take to it. That's a good way to win back the "idealist" gamer.
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Some companies just remove it for buyer convenience after the game has been out for some time. Epic has been doing that for years (even though they don't use anything really bad in the first place) and I think id has too.
 
I like Securom. It causes so many problems for the legit buyers that it turns most of them to hacks to get the game running, so a new generation of pirates is born with every title.
 
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
I like Securom. It causes so many problems for the legit buyers that it turns most of them to hacks to get the game running, so a new generation of pirates is born with every title.
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Very True, once they go down the path of the dark side, forever will it dominate your gaming destiny!



Its amazing how many people have to use ummm Cr!^!cks- to be able to play the games they purchase.
 
Originally posted by: CP5670
I guess they don't want you to see their UAService7.exe in the background. This is exactly what viruses and malware try to do. :roll:
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Here is Sony's response regarding SecuROM's blacklisting of Microsoft's Process Explorer (from the SBlade @ the NWN2 forums):
Hello,

'Process Explorer' has dumping capabilities as well as registry monitor / file monitor capabilities. This could be used to trace the behavior of SecuROM.

Therefore, we do not allow the game to start when this software is active.

We have no immediate plans to allow this software in the future.

Best regards,

SecuROM Support Team
SecuROM on the web: http://www.securom.com
or via e-mail: support@securom.com
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They didn't put up a very good excuse. 😛 The crackers are the only ones who would bother with that and they already broke Securom 7 long ago, and in any case I'm sure there are other programs that do the same thing and are not blacklisted.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
This is disgusting, I had no idea SecureRom was built into the beta.
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SecuROM installs itself with many games (such as fear, NWN2, C&C 3, Jade Empire: Special Edition, etc.) in addition to installing with the demos of certain games. For example, FEAR's freeware demo installs SecuROM on your system.
 
Sony ftw....

Seriously guys, stop buying thier garbage products and you don't have to worry about this crap. Every sale they make tells them that treating customers like shit is profitable. Don't be stupid; boycott them.
 
Originally posted by: CKent
Sony ftw....

Seriously guys, stop buying thier garbage products and you don't have to worry about this crap. Every sale they make tells them that treating customers like shit is profitable. Don't be stupid; boycott them.
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Or buy the games from alternative sources(Steam) and bypass all the Securrom crap.
 
Originally posted by: potato28
Originally posted by: CKent
Sony ftw....

Seriously guys, stop buying thier garbage products and you don't have to worry about this crap. Every sale they make tells them that treating customers like shit is profitable. Don't be stupid; boycott them.
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Or buy the games from alternative sources(Steam) and bypass all the Securrom crap.
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Just as long as they don't make a cent... I was being more broad, not talking only about secuROM games but products in general.
 
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