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(Second + Third) Ebola Confirmed Infection Dallas

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I saw two doctors on Fox News who were debating whether we should take Ebola serious or not.

The one doctor was downplaying the threat of Ebola. He was concerned about creating hysteria. He went on to say that its very difficult to catch Ebola, and Americans have nothing to worry about etc...

The other doctor had a different take on Ebola, and he wanted to close flights coming in from Africa. He also told a possible terrifying scenario. Imagine a man contracting Ebola in Africa. He starts to display flu like symptoms. He takes a Tylenol because he thinks he has a cold. Next, he flies from Africa to America. Once he arrives at the airport he ends up throwing up on the ground. Now, who is going to be the first on the scene to clean up the vomit? The airport custodians. Are they going to be protected? Nope. What happens if an infected Ebola person ends up throwing up on the plane?

Should we panic?
 
Artorias said:
So if people have survived and built an immunity to this virus, why can they take that patient and create a vaccine for it?

Maybe I watch to many zombie movies. :hmm:
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Did you see the video that showed someone who died from Ebola come back to life? He was on the street covered with a plastic tarp. A few minutes later he came back to life!

Its on You Tube. Freaky sh*t!
 
Mai72 said:
Imagine if this starts a full blown pandemic? We are due for one, right? I think it's mother natures way of cleaning house.
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This is exactly why I can't take you ebola panic people seriously. You ask me to imagine, just imagine with no proof, like a really crappy door to door missionary. Being due for one and all that isn't proof either, see the gambler's fallacy. Also mother nature isn't a thing; the planet is not a sentient super-organism that plans or takes actions of its own. If it were, things like the Oxygen Catastrophe never would have happened because mother Gaia would have put her foot down on all those upstart cyanobacteria before they caused one of the planet's largest extinction events.
 
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Mai72 said:
I saw two doctors on Fox News who were debating whether we should take Ebola serious or not.

The one doctor was downplaying the threat of Ebola. He was concerned about creating hysteria. He went on to say that its very difficult to catch Ebola, and Americans have nothing to worry about etc...

The other doctor had a different take on Ebola, and he wanted to close flights coming in from Africa. He also told a possible terrifying scenario. Imagine a man contracting Ebola in Africa. He starts to display flu like symptoms. He takes a Tylenol because he thinks he has a cold. Next, he flies from Africa to America. Once he arrives at the airport he ends up throwing up on the ground. Now, who is going to be the first on the scene to clean up the vomit? The airport custodians. Are they going to be protected? Nope. What happens if an infected Ebola person ends up throwing up on the plane?

Should we panic?
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oh, you were watching fox news? you don't say...

someone DID just throw up on a plane somewhere. go read about what happened.
 
slayer202 said:
it's not going to be 4k+ deaths, which is why your idea to close the borders is stupid. not to mention it would limit the amount of support we can give to those countries. those countries with millions of people and a small % of people with the disease. better off helping them stop it there and screen properly on the way back
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How many deaths is worth it?
 
Mai72 said:
I saw two doctors on Fox News who were debating whether we should take Ebola serious or not.

The one doctor was downplaying the threat of Ebola. He was concerned about creating hysteria. He went on to say that its very difficult to catch Ebola, and Americans have nothing to worry about etc...

The other doctor had a different take on Ebola, and he wanted to close flights coming in from Africa. He also told a possible terrifying scenario. Imagine a man contracting Ebola in Africa. He starts to display flu like symptoms. He takes a Tylenol because he thinks he has a cold. Next, he flies from Africa to America. Once he arrives at the airport he ends up throwing up on the ground. Now, who is going to be the first on the scene to clean up the vomit? The airport custodians. Are they going to be protected? Nope. What happens if an infected Ebola person ends up throwing up on the plane?

Should we panic?
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Not panic but limit the possibility of collateral damage.
 
Hugo Drax said:
But Africa which is the worst hit only has 4000 dead and they have nothing close to our medical facilities in the USA. And those countries are highly populated with poor hygiene.

4-12k deaths a year of ebola in the USA is no big deal. More people die from the flu I the us. And people choose not to get vaccinated against it.
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the number of reported deaths in africa is widely admitted to be very very much an underestimate. That is because it is for confirmed cases only but hospitals over there are completely lost in the sea of potential patients and huge numbers of people are just dying at home in living rooms. Those people don't get counted. It's a serious mess and the #'s are underestimates.

Also being reported is that it's growing exponentially with an approximate doubling every 3 weeks.

Right now the efforts made to stop it are grossly inadequate so it's gonna keep growing and chances for leaving africa will continue to grow as business interests trump world health interests (but that's another story).
 
massmedia said:
the number of reported deaths in africa is widely admitted to be very very much an underestimate. That is because it is for confirmed cases only but hospitals over there are completely lost in the sea of potential patients and huge numbers of people are just dying at home in living rooms. Those people don't get counted. It's a serious mess and the #'s are underestimates.

Also being reported is that it's growing exponentially with an approximate doubling every 3 weeks.

Right now the efforts made to stop it are grossly inadequate so it's gonna keep growing and chances for leaving africa will continue to grow as business interests trump world health interests (but that's another story).
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You think this is just "business interests"? The ignorance of people is astounding. Look at the discussion on here. "well, shit, it's only a few Americans, no reason to panic, why stop it at the source?"
 
LegendKiller said:
Not panic but limit the possibility of collateral damage.
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this.

Responsible adults looking at the larger picture of global health and containment of Ebola would have shut down flights and ships leaving africa months ago until this is contained.

Shutting down people leaving Africa has absolutely nothing to do with having health aide coming into africa. There is zero difficulty in preventing people from leaving while maintaining a flood of aide supplies and workers going in.

This is about keeping big business happy.
Africa is worth a shit ton to big business interests and they've got a strong grip on politicians shoulders right now.
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LegendKiller said:
You think this is just "business interests"? The ignorance of people is astounding. Look at the discussion on here. "well, shit, it's only a few Americans, no reason to panic, why stop it at the source?"
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So how does one stop air traffic out of west Africa?

What about boarder crossings?

Shipping?
 
Paratus said:
So how does one stop air traffic out of west Africa?

What about boarder crossings?

Shipping?
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How does one not stop air traffic? Do these village people possess a fleet of 737s we don't know about?

Shut down border crossings and ports.

Do you think this is rocket science? They can mitigate the vast majority of international travel very quickly.
 
LegendKiller said:
How does one not stop air traffic? Do these village people possess a fleet of 737s we don't know about?

Shut down border crossings and ports.

Do you think this is rocket science? They can mitigate the vast majority of international travel very quickly.
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I talked to an African gent who was vacationing in Thailand last week.

Ebola? :hmm:
 
slayer202 said:
oh, you were watching fox news? you don't say...

someone DID just throw up on a plane somewhere. go read about what happened.
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Would this be the news event you're talking about?

http://nypost.com/2014/10/04/sick-passenger-investigated-for-ebola-at-newark-airport/

I guess it sucks to be the passengers on the plane? Yes, the passengers were quarantined. Imagine if you were one of those passengers? They were in an airplane with this man for 2 hours.

The problem is America is not prepared for the likes of Ebola. You can dismiss and shrug off this virus, but if it gets really bad you're going to wish that we took it more seriously.
 
Mai72 said:
The other doctor had a different take on Ebola, and he wanted to close flights coming in from Africa. He also told a possible terrifying scenario. Imagine a man contracting Ebola in Africa. He starts to display flu like symptoms. He takes a Tylenol because he thinks he has a cold. Next, he flies from Africa to America. Once he arrives at the airport he ends up throwing up on the ground. Now, who is going to be the first on the scene to clean up the vomit? The airport custodians. Are they going to be protected? Nope. What happens if an infected Ebola person ends up throwing up on the plane?
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Sounds like the second doctor is an idiot. There are no flights to the US to close down from the infected areas.
 
I don't think it'll be full blown end of the world scenario... but I'm puzzled by some of the people just blowing it off like it's nothing, only an official death toll of 4k so far.
 
What else should be done other than blow it off? Nothing I can do about it.

What we should really be doing is figuring out how to profit from the crazies. I'm sure someone much more entrepreneurial than me is doing their part on that front.
 
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